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| From:  Chas777 (Original Message) | Sent: 4/5/2008 5:51 PM |
I would like to have views on this passage in Genesis 6:1-4: "When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days -- and also afterward -- when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown." |
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right on, love *(13-14). there is a differance of the Son of God, Jesus Christ the 2ed part of the "Trinity" *(as the NT declares of such), and the sons of God being direct creations of God. *(ie angels, and Adam {luke 3}). we are the sons/daughters of adam and can become "sons of God" theough a recreation *(new nature) given though salvation. gen 5:3 And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. john 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: rom 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. ...(14)For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God..(15) For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father." |
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the tallest man and woman in the world are giants, offspring of demons and women, this is what this thread is about right, not about the good sons and daughters of God, but the ones in Genesis 6, those are the bad ones.
their is your answer,
and romans 8:9, are children of God that is not even a normal comparison in regards to speaking about fallen angels.
because if you read further into Genesis 6
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
that is not about romans, Nephilim are by product of demons mating..
in other pieces of scripture, the term monster for them were used as well.. |
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interesting, please give reference. |
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in the message
notice Emites (monsters)
-mobs of hulking Giants...
Deuteronmy 2:10
The Emites (Monsters) used to live there—mobs of hulking giants, like Anakites. Along with the Anakites they were lumped in with the Rephaites (Ghosts) but in Moab they were called Emites. Horites also used to live in Seir, but the descendants of Esau took over and destroyed them, the same as Israel did in the land God gave them to possess. |
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JOb 9:1-the message
All scripture is God breathed, that is every bible
[ Job Continues ] [ How Can Mere Mortals Get Right with God? ] Job continued by saying: "So what's new? I know all this. The question is, 'How can mere mortals get right with God?' If we wanted to bring our case before him, what chance would we have? Not one in a thousand! God's wisdom is so deep, God's power so immense, who could take him on and come out in one piece? He moves mountains before they know what's happened, flips them on their heads on a whim. He gives the earth a good shaking up, rocks it down to its very foundations. He tells the sun, 'Don't shine,' and it doesn't; he pulls the blinds on the stars. All by himself he stretches out the heavens and strides on the waves of the sea. He designed the Big Dipper and Orion, the Pleiades and Alpha Centauri. We'll never comprehend all the great things he does; his miracle-surprises can't be counted. Somehow, though he moves right in front of me, I don't see him; quietly but surely he's active, and I miss it. If he steals you blind, who can stop him? Who's going to say, 'Hey, what are you doing?' God doesn't hold back on his anger; even dragon-bred monsters cringe before him.
even dragon bred monsters... |
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Hi Dawn! It is possible you are placing too much authority in a paraphrase. No real translation I could find, ( and I looked at many) has that statement ( or any statement about monsters) in Job 9 13 . The “nlt�?has a reference in brackets to a mythical sea monster “helpers of Rahab �?in ancient Hebrew text . But no real translation I could find says what the “message�?paraphrase says there. Personally I don’t bother reading paraphrases because they are one mans opinion and often add ( fiction or tainted understanding) to the authority of the original text of the Bible and that just messes up our minds. I feel it is far better to compare authentic translations to achieve true and proper clarity of the Word of God. God Bless Love-n-Grace |
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I believe every bible because it is not up to man to make the decision of who has tongues (interpreting the greek and other texts the scriptures were written in) and who has prophecy,
better to be safe then blasphemous eh!!
I know that the tallest people in the world are giants, I have discerning of the spirits as one of my gifts so...
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Hi Dawn One more point. I think you have a weak handle on the meaning of “blasphemy�?. A book calling itself a bible when it is a paraphrase such as the Message ,the Living or the Clear word, does not require ‘unquestionable belief�? That is an unwise statement Anton LaVey wrote a book he called a “bible�? Do you believe that one too? Real translations involve hundreds of people (even thousands ) and requires accountability to each other, that the true words in Greek and Hebrew used the original scripture, are translated properly. Because many of these scholars are linguistics experts in the ancient languages, they are the ones best qualified to translate Scripture. I doubt that they are relying on a ’gift of tongues�? instead they have spent years studying the ancient written and spoken languages. Pederson, Jack Blanco, and others who write paraphrases, are accountable only to themselves. With all kindness and respect to your “gift of discernment �? to blindly believe every book calling itself a bible, actually (in my opinion) shows lack of discernment. For the most part, paraphrases can be comfortable to read, and mostly good. But not totally reliable. Blessings Love-n-Grace |
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flush your pride down the toilet grace because it will get you left here to let you know You are wrong, now take it as that and suck it up before it leads you somewhere you do not want to be all bibles are to be believed, you are not God to make that decision Grace but you are speaking like you are God, now I would suggest you confess it, and move forward before it is too late for you, it is because I proofed something in scriptures and that you are wrong, sometimes we are wrong Grace, and have to admit it, but I will not admit to this particular issue because this is your error not mine.. |
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Hi Dawn If you proved something “from scripture�?why is it not in any other translation of scripture regarding that particular text? (Job 9 13) To use your own theory you must also accept the real translations that say nothing about “dragon bred monsters�?I am not saying there are not monsters and huge demons doing unspeakable horrors on this earth, and in the spirit realm. If you read my initial comments I think you can see I am very open minded about such things. You perhaps could have made a better case with Isa 27:1 which uses the reference to leviathan. �?In that day the LORD will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, With His fierce and great and mighty sword, Even Leviathan the twisted serpent; And He will kill the dragon who {lives} in the sea.�? Like I said I am opened minded,...... but your theory about accepting every " bible" which means believing word in a paraphrase is not wise. The Berians were called “noble�?because they tested Paul’s teaching with real scripture verses and did not blindly accept just what ever Paul said. it is therefore noble (not judgemental) to compare a one-man bible to real scripture. Bless you and your walk with the Lord Dawn Love-n-Grace |
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Grace I am going to say this a second time, as scriptures say to do, Eugene has the gift of interpreting languages, you are crossing over the border now, please stop, you may not be able to go back, Eugene has made that bible understandable for youth and has brought many thousands to scripture that never would have read it before, he has helped Jesus very much by bringing teenagers to the word of GOD, plus he has prophecy, you need to accept this fact as truth grace and deal with your issues of being wrong, because you are wrong. it is not noble Grace, it is going to the extreme to try to prove you are right about something when you clearly are not. now Grace please share with the group your thoughts on false idols at the vatican, they are not art or history, what are your deep feelings about this issues, because they are on the corner of the building, in the wing of the temple as Daniel said. |
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�?In that day the LORD will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, With His fierce and great and mighty sword, Even Leviathan the twisted serpent; And He will kill the dragon who {lives} in the sea.�? Sea is this Grace is HOST, it is the synomyn to this word... ever here the term starry hosts when they tell you not to worship the demons of astrology? you can see that in dictionary.com that is the meaning of the word SEA in this verse, also the word serpent is used, which goes back to the beginning, the serpent in the garden, in this verse he is speaking about beezlebub, prince of the demons, which means the head one, the original dragon in the garden. Now God is .....Lord of the Hosts but their are good hosts and their are bad hosts, when the word beast or dragon is used it is bad host in this part the word BEAST or DRAGON is used in this, which means one of the fallen ones, |
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Bless you and your walk with the Lord Dawn! Love-n-Grace |
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#26)dawn: all bibles are to be believed, you are not God to make that decision Grace but you are speaking like you are God, now I would suggest you confess it, and move forward before it is too late for you,... john 1:1 (New World Translation) JW bible "In [the] beginning was the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god" should we "believe that"? |
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