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| | From:  Shelter4u2 (Original Message) | Sent: 11/2/2008 4:39 AM |
I have a question someone asked and not sure how to answer?
Surely we don't teach that...? How can they reach that conclusion?
Appreciate your help in answering...thanks!
Here it is!!
Set me straight if I'm wrong, but doesn't the SDA teach that Michael is a theophany, or pre-incarnate manifestation of the Son of God/Jesus? Like many other traditional denominations teach? That's what I got from reading about the doctrine.
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| | | From: mae | Sent: 11/3/2008 2:09 AM |
Hi Shelter, Interesting question, but I'm not quite sure what is being asked, could you re-phrase what it is this person is actually asking? In the meantime I'll take a shot at trying to answer what it is I think you're wondering about. I guess one thing I'm curious about is what other 'traditional denomonation' teaches that Jesus and Michael are the same person (if that indeed is what the question is asking). I am not an expert on religions, but I don't think there are many 'traditional denomonations' who believe Michael the archangel is Jesus Christ, in the way that SDA do, or for the reason that SDA do. The only one I'm aware of who holds a similar belief is the Jehovah's Witnesses, and I would hardly call that a 'traditional denomination'.. The term 'theophany" is new to me, I havn't heard of it before although I was raised in the church (SDA); both my parents and grandparents were also SDA. Based on what I know of Adventist teaching about Michael the Archangel, ( that being that Michael is believed to be another name for Jesus so when scripture refers to Michael the Archangel, it is actually making a statement about Jesus Himself) it might seem that the person asking this question is has quite accurately depicted the SDA doctrinal position regarding the relationship between Michael and Jesus, being that they are one and the same person. So to answer your question, the probable answer would be yes, that is what is taught in the denomonation. The big word "theophany" isn't readily utilized from the pulpit, but the meaning would appear to be the same. Hope this helps. Mae |
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THANK-YOU dear Mae for your answer which makes good biblical sense to me.Appreciate you taking the time to reply.
Thanks...
((BIG HUGS))
Shelter4u2 |
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Hiya Shelter4u2,
The way i understand it is as Mae explained, that "Michael the archangel" is another name for Jesus, just like "Emmanuel" etc.
Some people will say, that means you believe Jesus was an angel that took human form. That isnt the belief at all, we believe Jesus is the Son of God and has always been the Son of God and part of the Trinity Godhead.
God bless you Shelter4u2,
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| | | From: Prime | Sent: 11/9/2008 8:53 PM |
Michael seems to be an important individual in heaven. He is the Archangel which means the chief of the angels. Michael has an important meaning as well, it means: (one) who is like God. The computer lexicon describes Michael as: one of, the chief, or the first archangel who is described as the one who stands in time of conflict for the children of Israel. In the new Testament, Michael is described as: the first of the chief princes or archangels who is supposed to be the guardian angel of the Israelites. Let's look at all the Bible text that mention his name. - Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
- But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Daniel 10:12-13
- Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
- But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince. Daniel 10: 20-21
http://www.creation-science-prophecy.com/michael.htm |
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Hi: I would also like to add that some preterists teach this as well as Muslims, Quakers & Shakers. They don't believe that Christ is part of the Trinity. They actually believe he is a Michael reincarnate and not the Saviour. Does that make sense? Janet |
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Hey many thanks to all of you for the help in answering my question--re-Michael query. Appreciate you taking the time to help me out there. I am more than satisfied with your answers...
God bless you all !! |
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| | | From: mae | Sent: 11/23/2008 4:15 AM |
Hi Shelter, Glad you found the input helpful. So, may I ask, do you now understand Jesus and Michael the archangel to be the same being? Mae |
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