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From: MSN Nicknamešøû£  in response to Message 1Sent: 6/3/2007 1:50 AM
Sir, i mean no disrespect to You, but i don't think  it is right for You to expect to be served, either, unless as kat said, You are in a Gorean Home. i can understand their take on things. (don't necessarily agree with  a lot of it, but i do have respect for those of Gor, and have had a bit of time in it).
 
To me, serving a Dom to me is a special thing. i serve the Ones that i  know, that i respect, or wish to get to know a lil more, as They are interesting to me, and it can be a way to talk to Them and know Them a little more. If i asked to serve every Dominant that came in, then to me, the value of the serve is lost, it doesn't stand out. When i serve, it is my way of showing that Dominant extra respect in front of Many, that in this one's view, He is special, and i want Him to feel that.
 
i can't serve a Dom i don't know, for i don't know His likes, and therefore, can't add those special touches in the serve that show that i remember Him, that make the serve customized. i can't serve a Dom i don't know just like that. That isn't my way. Serves should have more meaning, to my way of thinking.  That's just me *shrugs*
 
There are at this time, after having been in Phreik  for over 8 months,  perhaps 4 or 5 Doms only, that i would like to serve. That is becasue to me, They have earned respect, carry Themselves well, and act with integrity.i also like the fact that i have seen Them in some debates on certain topics, and admire that They can back up a lot of Their views with facts..
 
i do not disrespect You, Sir, but neither do i think that it is fair for You to expect to be served the minute You  enter, either. To me, that is taking  us for granted. The only One that i would serve automatically when He came in, would be the One that collars me.
 
Any uncollared submissive can serve a drink to whom she wishes. To me, i don't think  it is respectful of any Dom to expect to be served by an uncollared sub. They should respect the subs' right to choose and trying to see whom she thinks is worthy of the title of Dominant or not.
 
i try to treat a Dom politely, and feel i have the right to be treated the same way.
 
i will serve Those i have come to know and like and admire, respect, over a period of time. How They carry Themselves will tell me whether i may like to get somehting for them right away upon entrance, or not
 
i do not mean to upset You Sir, but i do not agree with Your viewpoint. Yes, You call Yourself a Dominant. However, a Dominant would not take for granted His position, but remembers that respect is earned, and expecting some things could be construed as taking another, or others, for granted.
 
i have tried to word this as best as i could without offending, although i know it isn't always possible to mollify everyone. i won't apologize for my view, Ironside Sir, but i don't think You should expect to be served just becasue You enter the room.
 
not all submissives and slaves will ask " How high?" when another says "Jump"......To me, i wait and see if a person's actions match their words. Some  people's actions- an i am being very general here- speak volumes of their character, and not in a good way, either.
 
i am probably perceived as being bossy, and yes, i admit i can be. i also can be very submissive in mind and spirit, in action, when i feel there is One that has a commanding  presence, yet carries Him or Herself well, is strong willed and minded, and acts with integrity. To me, they are the Ones that don't expect to be served just becasue they are of a Dominant role. Thinking One should have something  automatically just because, can backfire real quick.
 
i do not treat a person this way or that just because He or She is called a Dominant. There are quite a few in my opinion, who do not deserve that title. If i am too picky because i watch and see how One acts with other Dominants and subs and slaves, oh well. i can live with that.
 
Even if it's a drink. asking to serve it, tells a Dominant, Hey, i have noticed You, i think You are special, and want Your attention'.. .The Ones a girl would like to serve and would truly like to have His/Her approval of, i do not think would just rush to get something. It sounds desperate almost at times..
 
Sir, if a girl were to serve You, even if it were something as simple as coffee- would You not wish her to know how You liked it, maybe even, the type of cup, or flavoring, or blend, etc, and do it in a way that shows that she has put some thought into it, as opposed to " Goes to the kitchen and pours Sir a cup of coffee, and brings it out to Him" ????
 
That kind of serve sounds lazy and common, not unique or special at all. In fact, it makes me cringe... If this one does a serve for anyone, it will be detailed, and will show some thoughtfulness. If it's for a particular Dominant, , He will know that this girl has done some homework , and put forth a lil extra effort to  show it so that He can see it [her getting the things together] clearly, and see too, that she remembered  His customized preferences for certain things. THAT to me, tells Him that i think highly of Him, that i want to please Him, that i find Him worthy of serving.
 
It's one of the main reasons why i don't do many serves.  The Ones i would like to do a serve for are either no longer on here or have different schedules, or are taken. i don't mess with the Ones that are already taken .
 
Titles are nice, but that is all "Dominant" is... a title. A noun....A person's character, is what makes "Dominant" a living entity.
 
 
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