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* * * 2008 * * * : Secretary of State Clinton?
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From: MSN Nicknamejöhnnyb  (Original Message)Sent: 11/14/2008 2:00 AM
Rumored.  Wow!  ..I like it.


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From: MSN NicknameSKYgir1Sent: 11/14/2008 2:35 AM
I saw that - and I actually told friends that that would be perfect for her - and a better fit than if she had been offered the VP slot....she would lean on Madeline Albright for advice!

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From: MSN NicknameZelfrieda1Sent: 11/14/2008 3:23 PM
Dumb questions but
 
1) What exactly does the Secretary of State do?
2) Would she have to give up being a Senator from New York to do this?

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From: MSN Nickname-jujub-Sent: 11/14/2008 3:29 PM
1. Under the Constitution, the President of the United States determines U.S. foreign policy. The Secretary of State, appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, is the President’s chief foreign affairs adviser. The Secretary carries out the President’s foreign policies through the State Department and the Foreign Service of the United States.

Created in 1789 by the Congress as the successor to the Department of Foreign Affairs, the Department of State is the senior executive Department of the U.S. Government. The Secretary of State’s duties relating to foreign affairs have not changed significantly since then, but they have become far more complex as international commitments multiplied. These duties—the activities and responsibilities of the State Department—include the following:

  • Serves as the President’s principal adviser on U.S. foreign policy;
  • Conducts negotiations relating to U.S. foreign affairs;
  • Grants and issues passports to American citizens and exequaturs to foreign consuls in the United States;
  • Advises the President on the appointment of U.S. ambassadors, ministers, consuls, and other diplomatic representatives;
  • Advises the President regarding the acceptance, recall, and dismissal of the representatives of foreign governments;
  • Personally participates in or directs U.S. representatives to international conferences, organizations, and agencies;
  • Negotiates, interprets, and terminates treaties and agreements;
  • Ensures the protection of the U.S. Government to American citizens, property, and interests in foreign countries;
  • Supervises the administration of U.S. immigration laws abroad;
  • Provides information to American citizens regarding the political, economic, social, cultural, and humanitarian conditions in foreign countries;
  • Informs the Congress and American citizens on the conduct of U.S. foreign relations;
  • Promotes beneficial economic intercourse between the United States and other countries;
  • Administers the Department of State;
  • Supervises the Foreign Service of the United States.

In addition, the Secretary of State retains domestic responsibilities that Congress entrusted to the State Department in 1789. These include the custody of the Great Seal of the United States, the preparation of certain presidential proclamations, the publication of treaties and international acts as well as the official record of the foreign relations of the United States, and the custody of certain original treaties and international agreements. The Secretary also serves as the channel of communication between the Federal Government and the States on the extradition of fugitives to or from foreign countries.

2. Yes


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From: MSN NicknameZelfrieda1Sent: 11/14/2008 3:35 PM
Thanks jujub!
 
Wow! That's a lot more than I thought it was!
 
Hmm.......interesting!

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From: MSN NicknamejöhnnybSent: 11/14/2008 6:02 PM
I agree with this and why I think it's a great choice.  I hope Clinton is offered and accepts.
 
But some Obama advisers argue that Hillary Clinton would be an ideal fit if Obama concludes that he will have to focus his early days in office on the domestic economy, and will have to essentially outsource heavy-duty foreign travel to his secretary of state. Her celebrity and credibility would be a huge asset in his goal of reengaging the United States with allies. “You can send out John Kerry or Chuck Hagel,?said one adviser, mentioning some other candidates for secretary of state. “Sending Hillary Clinton out is better.?

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From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 11/14/2008 6:29 PM
ROFL, REALLY? 
 
you know what that job entails?  Travel.  Lots of it.
 
Looks like it's going to be a total slut zone bachelor party fest 24/7 for Wild Bill:
 

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From: MSN NicknamejöhnnybSent: 11/14/2008 6:38 PM
That's so 1990's

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From: MSN NicknamejöhnnybSent: 11/14/2008 6:41 PM
Oh yeah, and, really!
 
I love how things are shaping up.  I'm pleased.

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From: TreeSent: 11/16/2008 7:42 PM
On the cynical side, some have suggested that this post would also remove her as a political "problem". Sec. of State has huge responsibility, I believe it might be third in line of succession after Pres and VP, but at the same time a S of S needs to support the admin's positition politically. A S of S wouldn't be able to try to shape domestic policy in the way that a Senator could, wouldn't be open to criticising admin. policy as a Senator would, etc.  The cynics point out that by making her part of his administration in this way he would effectively be silencing her as a voice of dissent.
 
 
Not sure which point of view I hold with, but just wanted to toss this viewpoint into the mix.

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From: MSN NicknamejöhnnybSent: 11/16/2008 9:01 PM
I've seen that argument, Tree, but - not being a cynic - I refuse to accept that assessment based on what I've seen of Obama's campaign in the primaries and general and by what our nation, and he as our leader,  has before us.  I choose to accept the notion that the Democratic Party is pulling together to achieve great things at this time in our history.  I choose to believe that Clinton will put aside her singular political ambitions, as did Emanuel, to work as part of a unit to support President Obama with the hopes of achieving the goals we have before us.  Remember, in regards to policy, little (VERY little) separated Clinton and Obama.  I'm excited by the possibilities.

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From: MSN NicknameZelfrieda1Sent: 11/17/2008 2:56 PM
Hillary and Obama's platforms were so similar - I don't see where she would be a voice of dissent in the first place.

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From: MSN NicknameZelfrieda1Sent: 11/17/2008 6:09 PM
The Clinton Global Initiative has earned widespread plaudits for its efforts to eradicate AIDS, malaria and poverty in Africa.
 
 
Its nice that the only "scandalous" thing they can come up with to stand in her way, is actually something to be much admired.

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