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| | From: breeze_tioga (Original Message) | Sent: 3/11/2008 3:08 PM |
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| | Haha I knew she wouldn't dare show her face here again after Obama's clobbering last night. | | <NOBR>First </NOBR> <NOBR>Previous </NOBR> <NOBR>2-16 of 84 </NOBR> <NOBR>Next </NOBR> <NOBR>Last </NOBR> <NOBR>Delete Replies </NOBR> | Reply
| | From: Tree | Sent: 3/6/2008 4:08 PM | she does say that the political discussion is not her only, or main, reason for leaving us... | | Reply
| | From: Tree | Sent: 3/6/2008 4:09 PM | forgot to add to my above comment that I believe her when she says this. | | Reply
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| | Deja gave me permission to post her response to Tree (who emailed an apology to Deja.) Thank you Tree. I appreciate your gesture, but want to assure you that although I found our recent interactions to be unpleasant (I'm sure you didn't experience them as warm and fuzzy either), my departure from the board had nothing to do with either disagreements, personality clashes or politics. (my bold)
Online interactions provide only a small glimpse of the entirety of a personality, and I don't presume to know you. Nor do you know me. I feel that if we were to have meet in real life with conversations not so completely devoid of voice inflection, facial expressions, mannerisms (and so on), we probably would have received each other's words differently and understood each other a little better. Not to say we'd agree, but I doubt it would have become so personal.
You should feel no responsibility for my decision to unjoin the board. Thank you for your gesture, it is well received and appreciated.
BB Tree, you need to sign up for reading comprehension classes. Or you need to just stop lying. Either one will be wise for all of us I think, including you. | | Reply
| | ya know that was a nice gesture before you added the hateful comment at the end. | | Reply
| | Wow. That was a bitchy comment at the end | | Reply
| | This was not a nice gesture, Zel. | | Reply
| | Good. I don't take kindly to lying. | | |
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| | Tree, you need to sign up for reading comprehension classes. Or you need to just stop lying. Either one will be wise for all of us I think, including you. This is my comment btw. NOT Deja's. | | Reply
| | yeah, i knew that. and i still think its a bitchy comment | | Reply
| | So do I. And whoever told you I gave a shit what you think, lied to you. | | Reply
| | Yeah. The two principals have tried to lay this to rest, so why the bitchy comment? People have disagreements, it isn't the end of the world or even the end of their ability to ever agree on something. You're better than that, Godiva. | | Reply
| | i guess you need to take lessons in manners and courtesy cuz right now, u have none. | | Reply
| | Jujub, lying about Deja's intentions or words may not mean much to you, but it certainly does to me. Tree had no right to presume to explain the reason for Deja's departure, especially when it's bullshit. | | |
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| | Sorry, I don't extend courtesy to liars... or nosey dumbasses. | | Reply
| | Godiva, it looks like the same sentiment in different words to me. Or at the very least not enough difference in meaning to accuse someone of lying. So I can only believe you'd like to keep the controversy going. Rail on. And my reading comprehension is just fine, thank you. | | Reply
| | From: Tree | Sent: 3/6/2008 7:55 PM | whatever... here's what Deja said.. my departure from the board had nothing to do with either disagreements, personality clashes or politics. (my bold)
here's what I said... she does say that the political discussion is not her only, or main, reason for leaving us... My reading comprehension has always been excellent and to me these look like they say the same thing. Please help to educate me and show where I'm saying something different than what she wrote to me? Thankyou | | Reply
| | Her departure had NOTHING to do with politics. As I've said before... twice. And as she said in her email. You said politics was not the only reason, or main reason for her departure. Which means that politics was ONE of the reasons. BULLSHIT. And where do you get off speaking for her? I don't believe she said anywhere in that email, 'Tree please share this with the board.' She didn't even want me speaking for her or defending her against the insults and assumptions she knew would result of her leaving. FUCK. I don't blame her for leaving. | | Reply
| | With all due respect Godiva, Tree was simply answering Smelly's question, and insinuation it had everything to do with politics. | | Reply
| | Speak, what Tree did was confirm to Smelly with her snide ass remark, that yes politics was one of the reasons for her departure. Nothing could be further from the truth. | | Reply
| | OK, so we know it has nothing to do with politics. Thank you for explaining that. Now I think everyone needs to go to their respective corners and chill out. | | Reply
| | Thank you SL. I agree. This is getting way too out of hand. | | Reply
| | Get ready for Loft War 4 bitches. (I'm just kidding.) | | |
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| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/7/2008 10:02 AM | Jnp9Media wants to know ... what the hell is the big deal | | Reply
| | ummm..........there isn't one. But it is SNOWING here! Now that's a big deal! | | Reply
| | English lesson over. I'm done. | | Reply
| | From: Tree | Sent: 3/7/2008 11:03 AM | ok, my last comments on this.. and considering that Godiva has been as insulting as possible I think I've kept my cool rather nicely. Learned long ago it wasn't worth getting so worked up over what is said by someone young enough to be my grandchild. And where do you get off speaking for her? I don't believe she said anywhere in that email, 'Tree please share this with the board.' exactly, which is why I didn't quote her verbatim, you did. As to all the reasons why she left, I don't know every one of them ~ do you? I replied to Smelly as I did because of the link to the free swim board, where I did make the (mistaken) assumption that she left because of politics. I realize that you've decided to attempt to demonize me, but I was trying to correct that public assumption on my part. She didn't even want me speaking for her yet you somehow got hold of a private e-mail addressed to me which you felt the need to share here. This has the appearance of rank hypocrisy, but appearances can be deceiving. FUCK. I don't blame her for leaving. If you're truly that miserable here why do you stay? Nobody minds if you stay, but you're free to leave if that would make you happier. Your choice. Either way I'm done sparring, vent away without fear of contradiction from me. | | |
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| | Deja gave me permission to post her email to you after she learned of this thread. I didn't have time to come over here yesterday afternoon as it was when i was leaving work or last night (my idiot brother announced when I got home that he would be going back to jail, probably on Tuesday...and I didn't get on line.) I think that your phrasing might have made it appear in a manner that you didn't want it to, but I think in the end....this is between you and Deja to finish working on...it had a great start and hopefully it can move on to a good finish and past this middle point. | | Reply
| | Tree, Deja ASKED me to post her response. I didn't post your email to her so you can quit whining. As to all the reasons why she left, I don't know every one of them ~ do you? Actually you don't know ANY of the reasons. That's the point of my posts. Of course I do. Duh. She also wants me to ask you how come you didn't respond to her email where she asks you why you misrepresented her words. See Tree, I don't think it's miscomprehension on your part. I think you are totally disengenuous. Otherwise I wouldn't have responded the way that I have. Deja's pissed. But since Smig hasn't let her back in, you can just take my word for it. Or not, I don't give a shit. | | Reply
| | From: Deja | Sent: 3/7/2008 11:20 AM | Tree, I'm very disappointed and even a little surprised that you chose to misrepresent what I said to you. I would have expected more from you.
I find it amazing that people would choose to focus on Godiva's anger rather than the fact that Tree is lying.
I would have preferred that you keep your apology to yourself rather than use it to appear to have some kind of 'inside information' as to why I left, and to do so in such a disingenuous way is very repulsive to me.
That is all. Carry on.
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| | Lot going on I didn't know about since I wasn't around last night. My point was Deja said I could post it and couldn't so Godiva did. I'm out of the loop so I shouldn't have stuck myself in this conversation. Sorry I didn't come back last night Deja. | | Reply
| | Dede, it probably would have gone down better if you had done it. Oh well. I find it hysterical that duh my comment was supposed to be bitchy and I get the polite police after my ass... 'um, that was a bitchy comment!' Yeah, thanks Mr. Point Out the Obvious. Now give me a ticket and STFU. | | Reply
| | But since Smig hasn't let her back in This is seriously the last time I want to have to say this, and since people around here seem to hang on to drama, I have no doubt this thread will be read, therefore everyone will hopefully see this. It. is. NOT. up. to. me. ALL managers must weigh in on every decision and I am often in the minority. When I saw the application late last night, I sent an email to every manager, giving them my 'vote' and asking them to please discuss it. I also mentioned that since most people are here way before I'm even out of bed in the morning, I assumed the issue would be resolved. I saw nothing in pending nor did I see Deja's name on the member list, so I initially assumed that someone denied her entrance. I have since discovered that she was approved, posted a drive-by, then promptly left again. Some of the managers either chose not to involve themselves or they have yet to read the emails. Please do not assume I make any decisions around here with regards to who's a member and who isn't a member. | | |
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| | Sorry Smig. I wasn't aware. Now I am. | | Reply
| | Well fwiw, as a mere Loft citizen with no managerial powers, but who is always elected President and reigning Hottest Loftie, I don't think anyone, even Deja, should be permitted entrance again so she can post a hit-and-run message and then be gone. That's like a terrorist act. If Deja has some reason she wanted to not be a member any longer here, then I think it's reasonable she not be permitted to be a member here whenever it is convenient for her to be one. | | Reply
| | she was in J, then she left again hit and run drive by she's like the hooded cyclist in NY | | |
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| | They did let her in - then she left again - voluntarily. | | Reply
| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/7/2008 4:09 PM | oh, well who cares lol she;ll be back | | Reply
| | I think "Tree is Lying" might be taking it a little far. But I LOVE all of the parties involved and wish you would all just stop fighting. | | Reply
| | and now she is who knows where waiting for Godiva to give her all the dirt so she can hop back on that bike......ride w/ the wind! | | Reply
| | lol, godiva needs to breakaway from deja...she's only holding her back | | Reply
| | I am all about having your friends backs......but a line needs to be drawn when it makes you act ugly......for the sake of someone else......but then again....if you really believe in what your fighting for i guess it's what you have to do......but damn..... | | Reply
| | Wow. Drama. I don't miss it!
But it's nice to simply be a spectator and not be involved. lol
Nooooo idea what's going on...But seems Deja is gone. Boo. =/ | | |
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| | Now here I am contributing to keeping this thread active. Maybe if we all stop posting on this thread it will drop and be over with. How about if we just move on to other things now. Just a thought. | | Reply
| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/8/2008 7:30 PM | do u think Zeus is maybe like a david koresh like person and deja is cutting ties with her friends becaus eof him? | | Reply
| | I wonder if people would be so quick to ridicule Deja if a personal crisis or family emergency were the reason behind her departure. Goodness you'd think she'd pissed in your cheerios by the way you all go on and on about her. | | Reply
| | I think they miss her. | | Reply
| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/10/2008 10:12 AM | godiva ... where;s your sense of humour | | Reply
| | That is a disturbing picture! | | |
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| | JNP, call me weird but it's only funny if the person is here to rib back. | | Reply
| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/10/2008 10:16 AM | by your analogy godiva , the comic industry would DIE | | Reply
| | You're not dealing with a celebrity J. She's a person. No matter what you all may think of her, no one deserves the animosity she has received. | | Reply
| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/10/2008 10:19 AM | I have shown no animosity to her :-) | | Reply
| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/10/2008 10:19 AM | arent celerities people too? | | Reply
| | Of course. They get paid all the big bucks, love the limelight and that gives us license to scrutinize them, to a certain extent. | | Reply
| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/10/2008 10:23 AM | Deja posts long rants ... she's in the loft limelight :-) she's fair game in our microcosmos I wouldnt make fun of someone like realityzechcause he or she doesnt post much .... but people like Deja are fair game :-P | | Reply
| | What puzzles me J is Deja showed nothing but kindness and compassion toward you so this ridiculing and making snide remarks about her personal life really surprises me. I can understand Torty being an ass... well just because he's good at it. But certain others like misszell... who the fuck is that and why does she have a hard on for deja. Oh well, maybe it's just having a sense of 'humor'. | | Reply
| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/10/2008 10:25 AM | I havent been mean to her! all my coments have bene for purely comedic reasons :) | | |
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| | And as far as me being 'ugly' for a friend, in response to misszell's eloquent post. If I knew the truth about someone and everyone was making wrong assumptions about them, I would just as well speak up for them too. It's one thing I hate are lies and assumptions. | | Reply
| | the reason, godiva, that people are having a little fun with Deja's departure is because we've seen this before. She gets worked over when people other than me don't agree with her, about politics--see 2004, and she flees. She even one time, after leaving again, baited me to come into her dead Salon so that her band of genius friends could try to barrage me with a silly notion that a philosophy is dead. Anyway, the point is, Deja is just like the little boy who cried wolf. Even if she has a legitimate reason to leave a message board, rofl, it's not like, OMG, Family Emergency!!!, I must rush to my computer and unJoin my groups, lmao. An emergency would mean, to any sane person anyway, that you simply will be missing for a while and will not log on. Under no such circumstance would you unJoin a place. The only true reasons for unJoining a place are if you have gotten upset with it, or people there, or have a productivity problem in that you are posting too much there and have slacked off in your resposibilities--in other words you're addicted and you can't just not log on and not post and get your priorities straight, you must unJoin. And of course, this all is even more true since no one would have to unJoin due to emergency or personal matter, but then get prompted to come back and set the record straight because her friend emailed her about it, lol. That'd be some emergency! | | Reply
| | Well, she thought making a good-bye thread was lame and thought just unjoining would cause less drama, but I guess not. I think no matter what she said was the reason, everyone would make up their own conclusions as to why she left. | | Reply
| | I can understand Torty being an ass... well just because he's good at it. But certain others like misszell... who the fuck is that and why does she have a hard on for deja. My name is Misszell.....I'm from Milwaukee Wisconsin.....I am married and have daughter.....I work for Child Support in my State and after reading that i just pulled out my vibrator.....LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | Reply
| | was that eloquent enough?!?.....for YOU....an annoying self righteous BITCH who thinks she is better than others?!?....PLEASE....sit your ass down and practice the shit yourself.........you sure know how to express yourself in such a guiltless manner.....omg...where is my vibrator!!!.....i think i may need it again! | | |
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| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/11/2008 7:03 AM | i just blew my cereal all over my couch LOL | | Reply
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| | was that eloquent enough?!?.....for YOU....an annoying self righteous BITCH who thinks she is better than others?!?....PLEASE....sit your ass down and practice the shit yourself.........you sure know how to express yourself in such a guiltless manner.....omg...where is my vibrator!!!.....i think i may need it again! | | OH.........MY.........GOD. ROFL! | | Reply
| | From: Jnp9 | Sent: 3/11/2008 8:57 AM | she should just come back :-) | | Reply
| | Ok... Misszell, Godiva...in your corners, NOW! | | Reply
| | Misszell you want a chill pill with that vibrator sweetie? Damn, I must have hit a nerve. | | Reply
| | I'm moving this one to Free Swim as well. | | Reply
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| | You go Tree.....i don't see how anyone could not actually read what you said and find it disagreeable as an opinion.......unfortunately many people here flock together and it's just sad....really......don't some of these people have a business to run?!?.....i wouldn't pay money for someone to sit on these boards all day while a life was in their hands......hmmmm.....this is some bullshit | | Not only are you a crazy mother in Wisconsin. But someone who resorts to personal assumptions and judgements are FUCKIN LOSERS. Who the FUCK are you and what the FUCK do you know about what someone does, BITCH. And I'm the self-righteous bitch. Right. Now sit YOUR ass down and print out some fuckin checks. | | Reply
| | godiva's like one of those lions from the Ghost and the Darkness, who gets afraid once her fellow bully is downed and out | | |
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no no....thanks though......I took one of my own chill pills a couple of hours ago.....and they last for 6 hours!!....so im chill |
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