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►American Idol : Didja hear? Clay is queer!
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From: drew b  (Original Message)Sent: 9/23/2008 11:37 PM
He's coming out on the cover of People Magazine.

Check it out on Perez Hilton.


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From: MSN Nicknamesunnidaze8Sent: 9/27/2008 4:36 AM
Finally!!!!!!......I never thought he'd admit it unless he was caught in the act  

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From: MSN NicknameKasper-Sent: 9/27/2008 11:38 PM
Jay Leno said Clay got half a million for the People story.  Not sure if that is true...but Jay was prompted to come out now.  hahaha

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From: MSN NicknameKasper-Sent: 9/28/2008 4:47 PM

Clay Aiken: How 'American Idol' Gave Him The Courage To Come Out

By Access HollywoodSeptember 25, 2008, 12:49 pm PDT
Story photo: Clay Aiken: How 'American Idol' Gave Him The Courage To Come OutAccess Hollywood

NEW YORK CITY, N.Y. -- Clay Aiken told the world, "Yes, I'm Gay," on the cover of People magazine this week, in a portrait with his son, Parker Foster Aiken. But his coming out journey has been five years in the making.

In his first television interview since opening up about his sexuality, Clay sat down with Diane Sawyer on "Good Morning America" on Thursday, where he said being selected for "American Idol" helped him find the courage to open up about his personal life.

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"I grew up never caring what people thought about me. I got picked on relentlessly for everything -- not just the obvious -- when I got on 'Idol' and people were actually cheering me on and being supportive...there you are in an environment that is more open and more accepting, you don't feel like such an outcast," Clay told Diane.

The acceptance he received from his fellow "Idols" helped him tell someone about who he really was -- and the first person he told was a fellow "Idol" contestant.

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"I didn't tell but one person, I told Kimberly Locke, she was the only person I ever told, first person I ever told," Clay said. "She kept it to herself for years and years and years."

In making the decision to come out, Clay said he sees his public reveal as more a necessity than choice.

"I'm not making an announcement of any kind. I'm not coming and telling anybody anything. I'm speaking about it so people will stop asking questions about it...so they'll know to hush," Clay said of his decision to reveal that he was gay.

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The birth of his son, Parker, in August with friend Jaymes Foster also fueled his desire to come out.

"In this day and age, people in my position don't really have an opportunity to keep anything of theirs personal," he said. "It was kind of a decision that I made along with Jaymes and along with friends and family to say, 'I can't raise a kid and teach him how to lie, I can't raise a kid and teach him how to hide things, I can't raise a kid and teach him to keep secrets,'" he said. "I also don't ever want to raise him in an environment where it's not okay for him to be exactly who he is -- no matter what!"

Now that Clay is being exactly who he is for the first time, he believes his fans will have a variety of reactions.

"I don't have any designs on the fact that every single person is going to be perfectly okay with it," he said of the Claymates. "I'm sure that there are people who will grapple with it, I'm sure that emotions will run the gamut from people who already knew to people who really believed that it wasn't true."

As for the rest of the world, Clay says coming out to his own family has given him hope that the world is moving to a more accepting place when it comes to people's sexuality.

"I looked at people like my brother and his friends, who are really the stereotypical tough guy Marines, who all know [about my sexuality], and none of them care." Clay told Diane. "It's taken a while for me to have faith in society to accept the fact that people are more accepting and more open-minded and more loving and caring and less interested in your personal life than I initially thought."

Coming out to the world has not stopped Clay from doing what he does best -- performing. Clay returned to the hit Broadway musical "Spamalot" on Tuesday.


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From: MSN NicknamehootiesmomSent: 9/28/2008 7:46 PM
"I did a search and found this Claymates Message Board."
 
OMG ... Diane
 
I remember old "BOLT" message boards for AI.  Those women were crazy stupid for Clay.  God forbid that they can wrap their head around the fact that he is gay.  Good gawd ... it is what it is (even back then).

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From: MSN NicknameMissPaulaAbdulSent: 9/29/2008 5:53 PM
Great time to have a baby...when you're appearing on Broadway 8 shows a week.  And didn't he say last year that he has severe emotional problems brought on by his bad relationship with his father?   And that he chose drugs instead of therapy because "we don't do therapy well in North Carolina"?    Sounds like a perfect candidate for fatherhood! 

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From: MSN NicknameMissPaulaAbdulSent: 9/29/2008 5:54 PM
<NOBR>sunnidaze8</NOBR> Sent: 9/26/2008 8:36 PM
Finally!!!!!!......I never thought he'd admit it unless he was caught in the act

 

He WAS caught in the act, in 2006, and he still didn't admit it!


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From: MSN NicknameKasper-Sent: 9/29/2008 6:52 PM
There are not perfect canidates for parenthood.  And some on paper turn out to be bad parents.  
 
And most everyone has a job....his probably isn't more than 8 hours a day like most people....right?
 
I wish them the best. 
 
I do find one bit of inconsistency....he basically talked on and on over the years (and in his books) how rough he had it as a kid growing up (especially in school) in NC....but then now in the new People article he talks about how when the tike is 5 he wants him and the mother to settle in NC for school because it was such a great place to grow-up....huh?????

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From: MSN Nicknamesunnidaze8Sent: 9/29/2008 9:58 PM

He WAS caught in the act, in 2006, and he still didn't admit it!

misspaula.....just goes to show how much I pay attention to Clay's antics......all this time I thought he was very discreet about his gayness!!


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From: MSN NicknameBàdFluffyDàisSent: 9/29/2008 11:08 PM
Entirely too many typos in that previous post I deleted.  LOL.. sorry, I'll try to clean it up.
 
 
 
I think it was inevitable that this thread would eventually bring up Clay's baby and parenting ability.  I get entirely irate with people who don't believe that gays should have children.  Mostly their excuse is, "Well, the child will be ridiculed because his parents are different."  For whatever argument they present (and there are many), its simply ludicrous.
 
I realize the following quote from the charming MissPaulaAbduhl doesn't actually come out and state anything about Clay's ability to be a dad because he is gay, but IT DOES bring up a number of questions that I would have to wonder would be asked, if the dad was, say... oh... Johnny Depp.
 
Great time to have a baby...when you're appearing on Broadway 8 shows a week.  And didn't he say last year that he has severe emotional problems brought on by his bad relationship with his father?   And that he chose drugs instead of therapy because "we don't do therapy well in North Carolina"?    Sounds like a perfect candidate for fatherhood
 
 
So, they shouldn't be allowed to adopt or have a baby because of what the kid MIGHT go through, when MAYBE facing bullies at school who MIGHT find out that the child's adoptive parents are gay, then there's a CHANCE they'll target said child relentlessly and make his life a living hell (of course, the level of bullying said child MIGHT face is another variable.) Sure, that's a good, sound reason to oppose gay adoption.
 
I guess we have to stop mixed race couples from having kids, as well as stop people from giving birth to kids with skinny legs, faulty vision, or any child that falls outside the average range of height.
 
Gay couples already are allowed to adopt, but there is a need for laws to be created designating the parents as spouses if they so choose. Obviously, I don't care whether anybody is against this for whatever reason they can come up with, so long as they don't decide it's their mission in life to push for legislation to put restrictions on gay adoption. Then I have a problem with it, and would expect them to have a damn good reason for trying to stop it -- I mean, other than  'the kid might get bullied' or whatever other hole-riddled theory they might dream up because they realize how silly it sounds when they voice their true feelings: "I just think it's icky."
 
So far, the religious right hasn't been able to make much headway in this area because they don't have any damn good reasons, other than their own bigoted, puritanical, backward views. Lord knows they'd LOVE to have science on their side, and get some study result that proves children adopted by gay couples face such a detrimental impact on their psyches we just HAVE to stop it from happening!!! But so far, all studies have shown the exact opposite -- the kids turn out being no different from any other kid.
 
To those of you opposed to gay marriage and gay parents, I hate to break it to you, but Republicans are never going to introduce a constitutional amendment banning it, or defining marriage as being between a man and a woman. It's one of the carrots they dangle in front of voters, and the Republican party HATES to give up its carrots.
 
People have faced this same battle all through history -- women fighting for the right to vote faced opposition, the civil rights movement faced opposition, the women's movement faced opposition. But the side of justice has always prevailed. You can't stop progress. I just wish there weren't so many people trying so desperately to stop it, you're just slowing it down and frankly I find so many you to be a huge pain in the ass.   

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From: drew bSent: 9/30/2008 12:24 AM
Being against CLAY as a parent is totally different from being against gay parents in principle. Clay is a messed-up individual, y'all! He was a messed up individual last month when I believed he was straight (?) and he's a messed-up individual now that he's come out. He's just a freak! There are gay people who are freaks, just like there are straight people who are freaks. There are gay people who would make lousy parents just like there are straight people who make lousy parents.

Part of striving for equality means treating everybody on their own merits and not having somebody forced into the role of representative for a larger group...

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From: MSN NicknameBàdFluffyDàisSent: 9/30/2008 1:14 AM
Drew, at what point did you believe was Clay was heterosexual?  I hope not recently!
 
And if you caught my deleted message... I APOLOGIZE!  Spur of the moment type thing...

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From: drew bSent: 9/30/2008 2:06 AM
Well, I never assume that anybody unattractive is gay. If they SAY they are, I believe them, but if they say they aren't, then I accept that cuz I don't want 'em on the team...

;)

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From: MSN Nickname°finsShady°Sent: 9/30/2008 4:20 AM
LOL Drew!

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