i agree neumie, lieberman get's it. the man loves his country more than he loves himself. i'd vote for him anyday. we went to war because iraq violated un resolution 1441 plain and simple. (people shouldn't forget the stockpiles of yellow cake from al qaim and all the other stuff the un had tagged and monitored when saddam didn't kick them out). the iraq war is achieving it's goal, saddam is gone and on trial, they have had two successful elections with massive turn outs, and their army and police force is shaping up. after the election on dec 15, the plan is to start our withdrawal of troops. (i reported that we were drawing down next year on this very board a couple of months ago). all the second quessing and the i would have done it this way need to stop. some dummycrats and whimpycans are stuck on stupid dancing the political dance.  just leave the troops alone and let them finish their damn job.