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 Message 1 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameWOG721  (Original Message)Sent: 6/25/2008 9:37 PM
THE CHRIST PREACHED REPENTANCE.
 
MT 4:17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near."
 
MK 1:14 After John was put in prison, Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. "The time has come," He said. "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!"
 
JOHN THE BAPTIST PREACHED REPENTANCE.
 
MK 1:2 It is written in Isaiah the prophet: "I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way �?a voice of one calling in the desert, 'Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.' " And so John came, baptizing in the desert region and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
 
PETER AND JOHN PREACHED REPENTANCE. 
 
AC 2:38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
 
AC 8:20 Peter answered: "May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord. Perhaps he will forgive you for having such a thought in your heart.
 
1JN 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
 
AND, PAUL PREACHED REPENTANCE.
 
RO 2:4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?
 


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 Message 30 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBro_BryanSent: 7/20/2008 11:46 PM
Except Ye Repent


What is Repentance?
Is it Essential to Salvation?

The three words of this title come from Luke 13:5, which reads, "Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." Plainly, then, the tragic alternative to repentance is eternal perdition. In view of this fact, it is extremely important that everyone know what repentance is and how it is accomplished.

Repentance Is More Than Reformation To reform is "to improve one's character or conduct; to become better, to behave better; to give up misconduct; to make better by removing faults or defects." One who genuinely reforms will, from that moment on, live a better life. And certainly this is to be desired.

However, reformation falls short in at least one vital particular-it does nothing about the past. It leaves upon the pages of God's record all the sins that a person has committed. Consequently, it leaves the sinner still under the sentence of eternal death.

Suppose that a criminal who has been guilty of many and various offenses against the law decides to reform. From that moment on, he determines to be a law-abiding citizen. This would be commendable, but it would not absolve him from the guilt of his past crimes. If he is apprehended, or if he surrenders himself, he will still be called upon to pay for his past crimes, unless he is given a pardon. The same is true of the sinner in relation to his past sins.

What Is Repentance?
Repentance is, first of all, a turning away from all sin. And, so far as this first aspect is concerned, it closely resembles reformation.

But repentance further involves turning to God, in believing prayer, for forgiveness and cleansing from all sin. Such prayer is not necessarily vocal, but it usually is. The repentant person confesses to God that he is a sinner and asks for forgiveness. If he obeys the gospel, he can rest assured that God will forgive, for His Word promises, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins", (I John 1:9).

The Basis of Repentance
How is genuine repentance brought about? Paul explained, "For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation" (II Corinthians 7:10). Before a person can repent, he must feel sorrow for his sins. And this must be godly sorrow. For someone to be sorry merely because his sins have been found out, or because they have brought trouble upon him, is not enough. He must be sorry because he has broken the commandments of God, spurned His gospel, and thereby grieved Him days without number. Such godly sorrow is the only motivating force for real repentance.

Repentance and the Holy Ghost Baptism
A person cannot receive the Holy Ghost before repentance. Jesus said that the "world" could not receive this experience (John 14:17). He meant that those who were unwilling to give up the carnal things of the world, through repentance, could not receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter made this plain in Acts 2:38-"Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." It was no accident that he mentioned repentance first. In God's divine order, repentance must precede water baptism and receiving the Holy Ghost.

The requirements for receiving the Holy Spirit are repentance and faith. In many cases, those who tarry for this spiritual experience without receiving it simply have not repented. If and when this is true, it is useless for such a one to praise God with the expectation of receiving the Holy Ghost. He should first repent and claim God's promise of forgiveness. As his burdens lift because of his confession of sin and as he feels God's love and mercy, he will naturally begin to worship God. And God will pour out His Spirit upon this repentant, believing worshiping soul!

Time for Repentance is Limited
The time to repent is strictly limited by the extent of earthly life. There can be no repentance after death. Since in the normal course of events no one knows how long he will live, it is perilous indeed to procrastinate. The Bible declares, "It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement" (Hebrews 9:27).

The time of repentance is further limited by the duration of a person's capability of being impressed by conviction. A continued refusal to repent when called by God's Spirit brings hardness of heart. Paul spoke of people who were "past feeling" (Ephesians 4:19). Such people no longer feel god's Spirit leading them to serve Him. They have lost all desire for repentance.

The apostle also asked this question: "Despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?" (Romance 2:4). Think of the goodness of God to you, and surely your heart will be inclined toward repentance. The Lord is "not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance"(II Peter 3:9).

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 Message 31 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname†FàíthJoYnHÌm�?/nobr>Sent: 7/21/2008 12:02 AM
This is what I have been trying to tell ya.
 
Blessings.

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 Message 32 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKiki40Sent: 7/21/2008 4:11 AM
So, Faith, you're not of the teaching that salvation is secured at the point of belief/faith? Repentance is works, don't ya know?
 

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 Message 33 of 44 in Discussion 
From: trishaSent: 7/21/2008 5:38 AM
There are many greek words for repent....
only one matters...Feeling bad due to hurting Jesus and turning completely away.

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 Message 34 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname†FàíthJoYnHÌm�?/nobr>Sent: 7/21/2008 12:14 PM
Repentence is NOT works. Repentence is the point of action after acknowledgement of remorseful sorrow of the sinful self and the need for Jesus as your personal savior.
 
 

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 Message 35 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKiki40Sent: 7/21/2008 5:37 PM
point of action = work

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 Message 36 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameWOG721Sent: 7/22/2008 9:37 PM
KIKI = JA 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 
 

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 Message 37 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKiki40Sent: 7/23/2008 12:39 AM
Tell that to Faith, WOG. She believes in salvation at the point of belief, and that obedience to the rest of the gospel constitutes "works."

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(1 recommendation so far) Message 38 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname†FàíthJoYnHÌm�?/nobr>Sent: 7/23/2008 12:42 AM
That is NOT TRUE, Kiki......obedience is the fruit of salvation. You work for God, you work for His kingdom.
 
BUT.....you don't get saved by works...

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 Message 39 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname†FàíthJoYnHÌm�?/nobr>Sent: 7/23/2008 12:44 AM
Repentence - turn away from your sinful life, acknowledge yourself as a sinner who has no strength of their own.
 
Repentence only comes when you are SORROWFUL OF YOUR SINS AND TURN AWAY.....not just sorry for your sins.

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 Message 40 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameKiki40Sent: 7/23/2008 2:16 AM
Semantics, Faith. If "work" is the manifestation of faith, you will do the works or your faith has not saved you.
 
BTW, I do believe that you can repent without faith, and you can be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ without faith, but you cannot receive the Holy Ghost without faith.
 

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 Message 41 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameWOG721Sent: 7/23/2008 4:13 PM
Tell that to Faith, WOG. She believes in salvation at the point of belief, and that obedience to the rest of the gospel constitutes "works."
 
THIS IS AN INTERESTING STATEMENT. I BELIEVE SALVATION IS AT THE POINT OF FAITH, WHICH MUST INCLUDE WORKS (AS JAMES STATES), AND THAT OBEDIENCE TO THE COMMANDMENTS CONSTITUTES OUR WORKS IN THE SPIRIT.

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 Message 42 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameWOG721Sent: 7/23/2008 4:16 PM
BTW, I do believe that you can repent without faith, and you can be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ without faith, but you cannot receive the Holy Ghost without faith.
 
BE NICE IF YOU WOULD BOTHER TO SHOW WHERE YOU SEE THIS IN SCRIPTURE. YOUR ''BELIEF'' IS WORTHLESS IF YOU CANNOT SUPPORT IT WITH SCRIPTURE, KIKI.

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 Message 43 of 44 in Discussion 
From: trishaSent: 7/23/2008 6:58 PM
faith produces action...Godly action. Does one consider faith a noun or a verb here.?

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 Message 44 of 44 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameWOG721Sent: 7/26/2008 4:12 PM
I BELIEVE FAITH IS A NOUN THAT HAS TO BE EXPRESSED THROUGH ACTION.
 
IT IS LIKE SAYING, ''I HAVE TALENT FOR BASKETBALL.'' IF NO ONE EVER SEES YOU PLAY THE GAME, WHERE IS THE PROOF OF THAT TALENT?   AND, IF YOU NEVER PRACTICE, WHAT GOOD IS TALENT IN A REAL GAME?

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