I do not think that nimals have souls. People don't "have" souls either. They "are" souls who "have" bodies.

 

they are not redeemable but to they have a spirit...they have personality?

 

 

The soul is the personhood of an individual. In reference to the soul of God, the word used is "godhead." No, animals do not have a personality because they do not have a personhood. They have a spirit, however, and just as spirits manifest themselves in people, they also manifest themselves in animals.

 

 

When beasts die, their spirit goes to a different place then the spirit of man. God created beasts with the same survival mechanism as He gave to mankind. That is what is meant by "they all have one breath." That's the breath of life. That's not the same as the process of man's creation, when it says that God breathed His Spirit into man. That process is what created the man a "living soul." Creatures were not said to be "living souls." That is described by the psalmist when he said that God has "crowned him with glory and honor." He did not breathe His Spirit into any other creature. That is what makes man a higher order being than animals, but we are still not as high as angels.

 

Do you know what it is that makes us a little lower than the angels?

 

It is our bodies, our flesh, that makes us a little lower than the angels.

 

Psalm 8:4-5, (see also Hebrews 2:6-8)

4What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

Hebrews 2:9,

9But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

 

Love in Christ,

Katrina

You're close, brink. It is the fact that we procreate like the animals. The "crown" is the conscience that beckons us to become the sons of God by denying our carnal urges and the survival mechanism that wars against the spirit. Hence, fasting is a worthy excercise to that end as is abstinence. (Also, we do not yet see all things under our feet!)

 

Does evil spirit have a spirit body or even a soul ?

 

Does God have  a soul ?

 

What comes alive with the breath of life

Soul or Body or Spirit ?

evil spirit is a demon...a fallen angel that followed lucifer to the earth when he was thrown out of heaven and down to the earth.

God breathed the Spirit in to them...

The Holy Spirit regenerates the soul..

I do not believe God had a soul.

Jesus did I believe.  Of course this is what I understand and believe.does have to make it so...

 

 

God has the breath of Life.

 

and HELLO ...bible gazer.how are things....

God is good .

 

Everyone in this group seem to love God and try to help defend his words.

Which is good as long as everyone is honest in stating their belief

 

Sure has been interesting things on this discussion group since Bro. Brian opened it up.

I have learned some of oneness and trinity scripture thru this group.

I don't think anyone of them is evil in their way of thinking, its just what they know and believe.

God will fix it up sometime.

 

 

JLD, how could the rhetorical question be answered from this side of life? If it's rhetorical, it is still inconclusive in the mind of the writer. In other words, Bart Ehrman cannot possibly draw a conclusion about afterlife from this passge since the writer did not. The writer merely points out that no one knows. The writer is not arguing for or against an afterlife in that passage...he's arguing for the level playing field with all living beings. All die. Man's lot is to WORK...so he might as well enjoy it 'cuz he ain't gonna be changin' it any time soon.

 

BTW, I'm not a proponent of changing the word of God to suit my theology. The KJV is as correct a translation as any you'd prefer to cite or proffer through your own scholarship. In a discussion on whether or not animals have a soul, this passage has pertinence for it speaks of what happens to both man and animals after they die. If you just wanted to correct me on something, you missed your chance in that I was not exactly correct to say that this passage concludes that the spirit of an animal goes to a different place than the spirit of a man. The conclusion is that the matter is unknown. And the fact that it cannot be known establishes the point that man should not think that he is going to get any special treatment when it comes time to die. His physical being will decay just like the beast's.