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Some people have proposed that we have a vote in the local, state and federal government ballots a "none of the above" vote. It will send a message saying that you are tired of the two party system and you understand the SIMILARITIES between Democrats and Republicans.
Jesse Ventura, governor of Minnesota talks about the following things in one interview on CNN....
1. The similarities between Republicans and Democrats. 2. The problem with the two party system. 3. Whether he will run for senate.(which he didn't)
Watch the interview on CNN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH4RYqbW15M&eurl=http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
I think the "none of the above vote" would be a great vote to send a message to our leaders than the Constitution is to be obeyed. Like Ventura said, the none of the above" vote would win sometimes. |
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"You either roll your sleeves up and get your scrawny bottom into serving your country, or shut your trap about the lack of quality in those who do. "
Interpretation of what you just said: Your unpatriotic for not supporting....
1. newer definitions of the Constitution. 2. neo colonialism. 3. interventionism. 4. the philosopy of empire building 5. Hamiltonianism. 6. big government liberalism and big government neoconservatism. 7. tyranny 8. big government
As wee see from the American Revolution, patriotism in the eyes of the founders is the exact opposite of what you said above.
"Disobedience to tyranny is obedience to God."
Patriotism is according to the founders distrust toward "big brother government" and trust in smaller, limited, conservative government. |
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| | From: Kiki40 | Sent: 8/28/2008 7:16 PM |
The "none of the above" vote is exactly that, a voice. To make a difference. It's standing for strict Jeffersonian Constitutionalism and traditional Taft/Goldwater conservatism. Kindly explain to me how that will make a difference. It's like a teenager saying that they're not going to play a game unless the rules get changed to level the playing field so that they'd have a chance to win. Oh. Wait. Are you a teenager? Pardon me. If you want Jeffersonian Constitutionalism, you should be using your voice to put a Jeffersonian Constitutionalist on the ballot. And then you can use your voice to promote him/her. And then you can use your voice to vote. But to propose that a "None of the above" selection be put on the ballot is complete idiocy. Why would folks even go to the polls to vote for "none of the above" rather than just stay home on election day? What would a winning "none of the above" vote do? Postpone an election? Leave an office vacant? Give some weak-kneed Jeffersonian some time to make up his/her mind to serve their country? psht. |
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| | From: trisha | Sent: 8/28/2008 10:40 PM |
LOL...I know you are really serious but got to break it up a bit... here kiki.... I votes maybe count 1/8 th of the vote doesn't it...to pick none of the above is a poor option...it is not telling the government anything besides that we are stupid... |
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"Why would folks even go to the polls to vote for "none of the above" rather than just stay home on election day?"-Kiki There are many reasons why. The first is ideological and philosophic reasons. This was important for the founders during the American Revolution. Some of the boycotts they spent against governement they knew would not cause much of a stirring right way. Which leads me to the second reason. It's a progressional status. More than a four year goal. Now I have a few questions for you. Why would you vote for two people who have the same philosophy? Why would you vote for two candidates who don't believe the Constitution is the authority for today?(Which, going against the Constitution is dosobedience to God-Romans 13, Exra 8) Why would you support two candidates who believe in loose interpretations of the Constitution?(Meaning they don't believe in the historical, traditional understanding of the Constitution so they disobey the Constitution through newer definitions of it.) Give some weak-kneed Jeffersonian some time to make up his/her mind to serve their country?-Kiki The fact that I am a strict constitutionalist proves I am on my knees praying for this America to become "these United States of America" of 1776. If you aren't a strict constitutionalists, that proves you aren't praying in the will of God and therefore don't love serving Christ in the community-Ezra 8, Genesis 9, Romans 8. |
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"It's like a teenager saying that they're not going to play a game unless the rules get changed to level the playing field so that they'd have a chance to win" Don't even start. That's what our leaders are doing. Changing the historical definitions of the Constitution to support their philosophy. You support disobidence to the Constitution by voting for them because newer definitions of the Constituion sis changing the Constitution without changing it. Which means you are in disobidence to God by supporting someone who doesn't support the Constituion(God's authority in this dispensation in our land) |
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I will be praying for all those who don't believe in strict constitutionalism. Praying that they be in God's Word concerning this area. Which puts leaders subject to the supreme laws of the land. |
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| | From: trisha | Sent: 8/29/2008 3:56 AM |
The states will never be united again...each state has thier own rulings of the Land. Each president whoever it may be will have to deal with a fallen economy, a war that is here and the wars to come. I pray for forgiveness concerning the united States of America...and If sin prevails this america will fall to the same wrath as the other contries and generations of the past.. God being no respecter of persons...I include the coming judgement in that verse as well. When I go up to vote it will be the better of the two or whoever be up there...not accordding to what they say but accordding to whom God sees to have a heart that can be guided by HIM. |
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The Constitution clearly lays out the federal government versus the states.-Article 1:section 10 and the 10th Amendment. |
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| | From: trisha | Sent: 8/29/2008 10:36 PM |
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress. No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay Is this what you are talking about? |
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| | From: trisha | Sent: 8/29/2008 10:40 PM |
from the bills of rights this also will be ending.... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. |
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Yes, I was also talking about the 10th Amendment. Whatever is not specially established or prohibited to the states in the Constitution, is left for each state to determine. That's why the founders called it "these United States of America", not just "United States of America." Shows individuality to each state. There are things prphibited to states and established for states, but the Constitution leaves the rest as "states rights." This way, the true "union" is established. Not the union where a central power rules by democracy. Rather, a democratic republican government with a separation of powers. |
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| | From: trisha | Sent: 9/6/2008 9:17 PM |
now i see what you are saying...i do not have much of a political mind and think ib other ways...you put it well so I can understand...thanks |
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I honestly think our votes don't matter.But I would encourage all to vote in honor of all the people who died so we would have the right to vote. The Bible states that evil rules in high places and the end time prophecies must be fulfilled so my opinion and it's just that an opinion is the worst possible candidate will win. Peace |
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