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From: trisha  (Original Message)Sent: 9/2/2008 4:47 PM
Since there is so much paranormal stuff on the television about such things from ghosts and their definitions I want to know what some might think on this board...I consider it to be all demons...
Demons who lived in people that died and went on who refuse to leave...that their may not have a familiar body to go into.
I have had so many ask me about this...
people who have 'past life' experiences
The people who are clairvoyant and find missing children or who are able to solve a crime no one else could....
As far as I am concerned the information has to come from God..  Does it?
how can i tell someone wh has lost a person due to murder who was found because a person has a extra sense...
There is a fine line here...and because of all the public awareness it is a frequent question in this day and age...
necromancy is rampant...


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From: MSN NicknameChristianalwaysg12Sent: 9/3/2008 1:17 AM
Christians need to realize the demonic power that exists in this worl because we fight against it.(Eph 6:20).  Some may ask, "I don't do occultic activites, how does it realte to me."  It relates to you because it was a problem within the early church.(Acts 13,16.) Wolves in sheeps skins in demonic activity would creep into the church and even declare statements such as “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation."-The origonal greek does not read "the" way to salvation, but a way to salvation.
 
 
     The new Age Movement and the Occult-by Walter MArtin
 
    Doctrines of demons-by Walter Martin.
 
 
 
 

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From: trishaSent: 9/4/2008 12:56 AM
I have not seen The name  'walter martin' in ages...This is why I bring this up...we need to  have answers be ready...
I have had to explain the difference between a occultic soothesayer and a prophetic word...word of knowledge..We know the difference..  thanks for you reply sister

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From: MSN NicknameChristianalwaysg12Sent: 9/4/2008 1:16 AM
Some accredit Dr. Martin as the "founder of Christian Apolegetics."(in the 20th century to the present of course)  I agree.

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From: MSN NicknameValInChristSent: 10/19/2008 1:41 AM
Hello Trisha,
 
As I'm sure you know, there is a spirit realm and there are spirit beings in the spirit realm.  According to the bible, there are three heavens. Satan was kicked out of heaven. There is also a spirit realm down here where we reside on the earth.  There are angels and there are demons in the spirit realm on this level.  People who say they are talking to the dead or seeing the dead are actually seeing familiar spirits.  Meaning, these are evil spirits (demons) that are familiar with people who passed on.  Spirits can change their appearance.
 
2 Corinthians 11:14 KJV
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Acts 16:16
And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
 
The (demon) spirit of divination operates through phyics.
 
In the bible, people went to the prophets or seers to find something or someone who was lost.  See the scriptures below:

1 Samuel 9:3-6, 9, 18-20

3And the asses of Kish Saul's father were lost. And Kish said to Saul his son, Take now one of the servants with thee, and arise, go seek the asses. 4And he passed through mount Ephraim, and passed through the land of Shalisha, but they found them not: then they passed through the land of Shalim, and there they were not: and he passed through the land of the Benjamites, but they found them not.  5And when they were come to the land of Zuph, Saul said to his servant that was with him, Come, and let us return; lest my father leave caring for the asses, and take thought for us.  6And he said unto him, Behold now, there is in this city a man of God, and he is an honourable man; all that he saith cometh surely to pass: now let us go thither; peradventure he can shew us our way that we should go.

  9(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to enquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)
 
 18Then Saul drew near to Samuel in the gate, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, where the seer's house is.  19And Samuel answered Saul, and said, I am the seer: go up before me unto the high place; for ye shall eat with me to day, and to morrow I will let thee go, and will tell thee all that is in thine heart.  20And as for thine asses that were lost three days ago, set not thy mind on them; for they are found.
 
If you go to a Holy prophet or seer for this information, you are getting this information from the God.  If one goes to those who call themselves seers or phyics, etc. and they are not God's Holy prophets or seers; then that information is coming from demons. 

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