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DEBATE BOARD : False Doctrines
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 Message 1 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSkyangel�?/nobr>  (Original Message)Sent: 10/7/2008 4:12 AM
There are many false doctrines in  the churches today.
So how do you know you are not being  conned into believing one of them?
How do you know you have not been deceived and have not unknowingly joined one of these churches who teaches false doctrines in the first place?
How do you know you are right and someone else is wrong?
Can you tell the difference between TRUTH and lie which appears to be truth?
Can you tell the difference between the REAL CHRIST and the false  christs which are so prevalent in this world today and are being followed in the false religions who all call themselves christian?
How can you discern the TRUTH from the LIES?
What scriptures  do you use?
What principles do you use to discern these things?
 
Jesus said the Pharisees and hypocrites did not know  what they were doing. They still dont know what they are saying or doing today so how  do you know you are not one of them?
 If you are a clueless and oblivious hypocrite, you remain that way unless God does a miracle and open your eyes. So how do you get a clue?  Do you  even want to know if you are clueless and deceived hypocrite?
 
 


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 Message 7 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSkyangel�?/nobr>Sent: 10/8/2008 2:41 AM
It is obvious that you don't understand the scriptures if you think they are half lit notions.
 
Psa 139:12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light [are] both alike [to thee].
 
Can you explain how Darkness and Light can be alike to GOD ?
 
If not, then you obviously dont have the MIND of Christ.

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 Message 8 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameGiantslayaSent: 10/8/2008 2:48 AM
Whats the big mystery ????  Pray about it and maybe he'll show you something better than the other answer you gave....

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 Message 9 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSkyangel�?/nobr>Sent: 10/8/2008 3:04 AM
Its no mystery to me Giantslayer. I know the answer. I was wondering what your explanation might be but you obviously dont have one since you gave none.

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 Message 10 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSkyangel�?/nobr>Sent: 10/8/2008 5:02 AM
Hbr 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
 
Mal 3:6 For I [am] the LORD, I change not
 
The WORD of God is the SAME Yesterday Today and For Ever. 
The TRUTH is the same Yesterday Today and For Ever.
HE NEVER CHANGES.
 
The Word of God applies to all people throughout all generations for all eternity and all its promises apply the SAME to them all throughout all eternity so  in order to be teaching the TRUTH and a correct interpretion of scripture, ALL TRUE doctrine must apply equally and be relevant to  all people through all eternity and that includes all the promises about Jesus return. They will all still be relevant in  the far off eternity as far as you can imagine and a lot further down the track than any man can comprehend.
 
At the same time they are relevant for TODAY and for YESTERDAY.
 
Jesus Christ did return in the past. He is returning today and He will continue to return in the future for  ever and ever to all generations for all eternity. That is the TRUTH  and  when you have the MIND of Christ you will be able to comprehend it all because Past Present and Future are all the SAME to GOD. There is NO TIME in eternity.
 
Any doctrine which cannot be applied to Past Present and Future at the same time and relevant to all of them, is a false doctrine.
 
WAKE UP and SEE the REALITY and TRUTH of JESUS CHRIST, The WORD, the WAY, the TRUTH, The LIFE, being  the SAME Yesterday Today and Forever and NEVER CHANGING
 

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 Message 11 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameEnd_Time_Warrior7Sent: 10/8/2008 12:45 PM
what kind of christain talks about the darkness all the time? That is what you seem to be preoccupied with the most sky.Have you even read 1 John whrer it says that there is no darkness in Him at all.

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 Message 12 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameEnd_Time_Warrior7Sent: 10/8/2008 12:47 PM
I notice your caught up in this before, now , forever deal . You do not span time you are limited to this time frame of the here and now.

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 Message 13 of 21 in Discussion 
From: rentacopSent: 10/8/2008 8:53 PM
Sky and Slaya, if you're totally honest with yourselves, you will recognize that you both have sinned and need to repent. Matthew 7:1-5  Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 
 
As far as who needs to repent, you're both half-right; you both need to repent. As for who doesn't need to, well, I doubt there is a single person on this board (or on this planet, for that matter) who doesn't need to repent of some sin or other. So what are either of you accomplishing by attacking each other the way you have? Are you running for president or something?

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 Message 14 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameGiantslayaSent: 10/8/2008 9:01 PM
1 Cor 6:2-3
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

                                               Hmmmmmm !?!?!?!?!!

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 Message 15 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBOBWOOD1Sent: 10/8/2008 11:14 PM
Amen! Jesus is the unchanging answer in a changing world.
"Yesterday, today, forever
Jesus is the same!
All may change but Jesus never! Glory to His name!"
Bob Wood (chorus)

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 Message 16 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknameus59pizzaSent: 10/8/2008 11:24 PM
Hal la lu, Hal la lu, Halaluha, Praise Ye the LORD
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
US

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 Message 17 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSkyangel�?/nobr>Sent: 10/9/2008 2:30 AM
#11
The kind of christian who talks about the darkness is the one who has found the treasures which are hidden in the darkness. 
Its amazing what you find in darkness when you are the Light of the WORLD.
 
Yes I know there is no darkness in the LORD. He is in me and I am in HIM. That is why I am not afraid of darkness or afraid to talk about it. LIGHT dispels darkness and allows us to see what is hidden in that darkness. Yet at the same time  the LORD dwells in thick darkness and I dwell there IN HIM and with HIM.
 
Exd 20:21 And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God [was].
 
1Ki 8:12 Then spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
 
2Ch 6:1 Then said Solomon, The LORD hath said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
 
 
 
 

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 Message 18 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSkyangel�?/nobr>Sent: 10/9/2008 2:37 AM
#12
I have been caught up into the spiritual realm where a day with the Lord is as a thousand years and thousand years as a day.
I am not of this world. I live in the same realm that Jesus lives in and lived in and always will live in. I live in the DAY of the LORD.
 
Zep 1:15-18That day [is] a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers. And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung. Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.

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 Message 19 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSkyangel�?/nobr>Sent: 10/9/2008 2:43 AM
#13
I have already REPENTED from sin and turned to GOD. Jesus pulled the beam out of my eye because I could not do it myself. It made me blind  but He replaced it with HIS SIGHT and gave me HIS EYES so now I can see as clearly as an eagle.
I am IN HIM and He is IN Me. I have HIS WISDOM and ability and authority to judge angels.
God tells us to judge righteous judgment.
 
Jhn 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
 
 
 
 
 

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 Message 20 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSkyangel�?/nobr>Sent: 10/9/2008 2:44 AM
#14
Finally we agree on something.

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 Message 21 of 21 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameSkyangel�?/nobr>Sent: 10/9/2008 2:48 AM
#15
I am glad you realise that Jesus is the SAME Yesterday Today and forever.
I hope you also realise the SAME applies to the WORD of God and ALL HIS TRUE DOCTRINE.
 
Jesus has no  futuristic doctrine which did not also happen in the past and is also happening today and relevant to all ages for all eternity. Nothing new under the sun.
 
Ecc 1:9 The thing that hath been, it [is that] which shall be; and that which is done [is] that which shall be done: and [there is] no new [thing] under the sun.
 

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