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From: MSN NicknameJigsawQueen1  (Original Message)Sent: 9/24/2007 12:22 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 16/09/2007 23:37
I work very hard, for many hours of my day, making new tags to keep the choice here fresh and varied, but it's been suggested I'm just "churning out junk" as opposed to one or two very special tags just once in a while.  I'm certainly not looking for praise, but if this is the case then I shall have to "take stock" as no one is going to want to request if they feel the goods are "shoddy". Looking forward to any comments ya'll may have.....
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameStandupSteffi</NOBR>  in response to Message 1 Sent: 16/09/2007 23:52
....Excuse me! but I can't believe someone can say that about your tags.....how dare they!.  I think whoever said it may have a case of the green eyed giant ( jealous). I think your tags are lovely and you have a great group here. If they think your churning out junk...that's their problem, all I can say is " you keep churning them out ...lol 
Steffi x
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameÜñ†Åm€Ð_£ìÏ_ßløñЀ_§håž</NOBR>  in response to Message 2 Sent: 17/09/2007 00:26
OMG my jaw has just dropped.
Who the hell has said that about your tags? Are they totally mad?
You are by far my fave tag maker hun and i'm sure alot of people here would agree with me when i said whoever said that about your ART is completely not worth making tags for and not worthy of being in this group (if they are a member here!).
 
NONE of your tags are anything near "junk" they are beautiful! I am just gobsmacked! So who said it? Let me at them..... let me at them......
 
Huggles Shaz
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamecajunstmpr46</NOBR>  in response to Message 2 Sent: 17/09/2007 01:01
Who in the world said you were churning out junk??  I'm shocked that anyone has said that to you.  Your tags are super popular and you should know that by how many requests you get!  I've just taken a look at your board and I don't see how you can believe that someone thinks your tags are "shoddy"?    Look how many folks love them!
It's a darn good thing you are the one making "new and fresh" tags for the group...I'm so slow in making them.  I hate that I am slow...but...I spend way too much time on each tag..it's ridiculous!  It doesn't even pay off to take that much time.  It's just a matter of self confidence (which is none LOL) for me.  You should be proud that you are so confident in your work that you know that it looks great and can get it out there!   That's what matters.   I hope the "1 or 2 tags every once in a while" wasn't me they (whoever) were implying?   If it was about this group though and me being the other "main" tagger here.......??
I'm sorry someone has said this to you, but I think you are confident enough in your work not to let it get to you or let it stop what you are doing!  
Vicki
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameshar5271</NOBR>  in response to Message 3 Sent: 17/09/2007 01:06
OMG!  That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!  You tags are awesome, keep doing what you are doing.  I don't know who would say that, but they obviously don't know beautiful art when they see it.  Please just keep doing your beautiful work.
 
Hugs,
Sharon
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameretreeva3</NOBR>  in response to Message 5 Sent: 17/09/2007 03:54
What ?? who the hell said that,  ,How dare they.. i am totally outraged..let me at em !!
Willow who ever said that obviously doesn't know shit from clay..sorry mate for swearing on here. i mad..
Mate dont ever change your tags that wnat makes you you, if you know what i mean..
Big Hugs
Debs
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameÜñ†Åm€Ð_£ìÏ_ßløñЀ_§håž</NOBR>  in response to Message 6 Sent: 17/09/2007 07:27
See me and Debs will sort em out! Just give us a name......LOL
 
Hugs Shaz
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 7 Sent: 17/09/2007 09:05
Thanks so much for your comments (and for making me laugh!) As I said, I'm not looking to be complimented; just reassured that I'm not wasting my time LOL! The person is over in another group, so my Aussie gals can take their boxing gloves off - lmao!!! And Vicki - No! - the bit about making one or two tags 'par excellence' as opposed to several mediocre ones was certainly not aimed at you!!! Well, I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing be it right or wrong, coz I love it and it keeps me sane - well, a bit saner LOL!
Luv ya'll loads xxxxx
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamecajunstmpr46</NOBR>  in response to Message 8 Sent: 17/09/2007 09:42
Well I gotta get to bed...it's after 3 a.m....aaargh! 
I obviously missed the "excellence" part about the 1 or 2 tags!! 
I wouldn't have ever thought that was implying me...that's for sure! LOL.......and mediocre?  Implying your tags are mediocre?  I just don't get how someone could say that.    I'm very glad you aren't taking it to heart though and you'll keep doing what you are doing.  I've been self conscious about my tags....they are pretty much all the same to me....square, framed, maybe some noise, etc...nothing like all those "fancy" ones I guess that are out there with all the scrapkits, embellishments, etc.  I've decided....oh well...I'm going to use an image I like...and go from there.  There are so many different tastes out there...I don't see how one person can decide what is good or bad...that's ridiculous.   I'm glad that it was not someone in this group!  Our members are too nice to act like that!
Anyway...I'm bleary-eyed...but I just wanted to say that it's a shame this was ever suggested to you and am glad you can say hell with it and continue making those great tags!  I have to eventually go through them myself and start requesting....there are many that I definitely want! 
Vicki
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamehay_tasha</NOBR>  in response to Message 1 Sent: 17/09/2007 14:14
I LOVE YOUR TAGS
 
SORRY JUST HAD TO PUT THAT IN... THE PERSON THAT SAID THAT DOES NOT DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR REQUESTS FILLED... IF THEY THINK YOUR WORK IS "SHODDY"... THEN WHAY ARE THEY REQUESTING IT??!!??


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From: MSN NicknameJigsawQueen1Sent: 9/24/2007 12:25 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameretreeva3</NOBR>  in response to Message 8 Sent: 17/09/2007 21:43
Hi Mate as you can tell, we all love and appreciate you and your work, but if i EVER hear anything untoward, amoungst any groups i'm tellin ya the boxing gloves come back on..lols, we dont have the boxing kangaroo for nothing !!
Your Aussie mate
 
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameÜñ†Åm€Ð_£ìÏ_ßløñЀ_§håž</NOBR>  in response to Message 11 Sent: 18/09/2007 00:02
I'm with Debs! If i EVER see anything but PRAISE for your work hun i'm gonna open up a can of KICK ASS!
 
Hugs Shaz
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 12 Sent: 18/09/2007 08:05
Aw you gals really are the best! I just came in from another group after enforcing my one simple basic rule: "Please don't make further requests until previous ones are collected" and someone had left me a curt message saying she won't be requesting from me any more because of it! All I can say is it sounds like she feels guilty (which she is!) and if she thinks I'm gonna lose sleep over not be able to tag for her again - when I make the best part of 100 copies of most offers across my groups - then she is very mistaken! LOL! PS I have to add here that I just LOVE the Aussie sense of humour! You gals make me laugh (and that's always a tonic!)
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameretreeva3</NOBR>  in response to Message 1 Sent: 18/09/2007 08:53
Hi Mate just found the curt tag, and replied dont worry i was nice, but if you want to delete it go ahead.
Just couldnt help myself
Debs
Noone messes with my mate !!
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 14 Sent: 18/09/2007 08:59
Hehehe! that told her!  lmao!!!! Thanx Debs, it's nice to have someone "champion" you once in a while - you're a bonzer gal (hope that's correct Aussie slang? LOL! )
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameretreeva3</NOBR>  in response to Message 1 Sent: 18/09/2007 09:05
Welcome cobber, and yep thats the right slang LOLS
Debs
 
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 16 Sent: 18/09/2007 16:58
DEBS........ That "bloody woman" left several more nasty messages on my board after you posted LOL! She accused me of >>>>
1) "having a vendetta" with her"
2) "making the group a miserable place to be"
3) "intimidating members"
4) "being in breach of MSN COC by flaming"
5) "running to management with trivial matters"
 
In reponse I told her >>>
1) "I don't have a 'vendetta' with her or anyone else"
2) "I had been trying to avoid drama (which I hate) but she was the one trying to 'enflame' matters that had nothing whatsoever to do with her in the first place"
3) "I didn't 'run to Management with trivia' but notified them of unnacceptable behaviour on my Board - as they requested me to do after the last time she did this"
 
This was what one of the bosses (who are friends of mine and gals I love and get along great with!)
 
Absolutely No Drama will be tolerated on the boards, doing
so will result in your membership being cancelled or banned.
 
Enough is Enuff!!
 
{Her name}, Willow set this thread up for the members that havent picked up her tags, not for personal opinion of others. 
 
I tell you what mate, every time she, and others like her, do this I feel like leaving that group for good, but I have so many good friends there and why should I leave just to make the likes of her happy! Ho hum!
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameretreeva3</NOBR>  in response to Message 17 Sent: 18/09/2007 22:18
Hi Mate i thought something was up, I went to "The Group " before i came here to see if there was any coments and the whole thread has been deleted, so i knew something was up.
She is a stiring cow for a start, if she doesnt want your or anyones tag dont request SIMPLE..!!
I can understand mate how you are feeling, dont let the likes of her make you leave, I sure wouldn't !!
Mate also i cant help wondering if i hadn't posted my coment then she wouldn't have retaleated.
She proberly does this in all her groups eh..??
Not worth worring about mate, all your friends are here and more are coming ..if you leave you have plenty of work here..
Debs
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 18 Sent: 18/09/2007 22:42
I came very close to leaving but I've just got off IM with my fave manager and she has smoothed troubled waters, so..... we'll see! You're so right though; this is my home-from-home and it's more important to me than 10 of the "other place"
From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname«Marion«</NOBR>  in response to Message 19 Sent: 18/09/2007 23:53
Smoothing is ma middle name hun , lol

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 Message 3 of 5 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameJigsawQueen1Sent: 9/24/2007 12:30 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameÜñ†Åm€Ð_£ìÏ_ßløñЀ_§håž</NOBR>  in response to Message 20 Sent: 19/09/2007 00:19
Grrr! Some people.
Is this the group i think it is? I can't believe she said that to you. Some people have nothing better to do than try to cause trouble. You are better than that hun.
 
Hugs Shaz
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTigeress291</NOBR>  in response to Message 21 Sent: 19/09/2007 02:48
Hun your tags are awesome..dont know how any one can say they are shoddy you keep up the neat work caouse i will be requesting Love ya Tigeress xxxxx
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 22 Sent: 19/09/2007 08:19
Marion !!!!!!! ya wee divil  LMAO! Ah well, ya already know I luvs ya hehehe!
Thanks girls, yes, things have calmed down again now, unfortunately it wasn't the first time she created havoc and each time it happenes it makes me feel more and more like "throwing the towel in". Last time she caused a huge controversy about a tag I was offering; plastering my Board with message THIS BIG about how I was in violation of TOU etc, etc, In the end I contacted the artist directly and got her written permission. The offer went ahead but the whole affair 'left a bad taste in my mouth' for ages. I thought she had gotten off my case after she lost that round, but NO she came back with all that crap yesterday. I don't know why she's 'got it in for me!, I've never even posted on her board or anything! I don't know her previously from other groups, I'm stumped as to why she has so much venom against me! I'm still pretty incensed about it but everyone is right who has said I should do my utmost to ignore her malice and not let her win by ousting me out of the group and stopping me from doing the thing I love the most (truly!) and that, of course is tagging!
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTigeress291</NOBR>  in response to Message 23 Sent: 19/09/2007 08:48
Good on ya Hun..dont let her get to ya...Hugs Tigeress xxxxx
From: huni  in response to Message 23 Sent: 19/09/2007 09:01
OMG ,Just been reading this thread,what the hell is wrong with peeps,i think you guys are just brlliant at this work.  I LOVE IT ALL !!!! 
From: Liz  in response to Message 25 Sent: 19/09/2007 19:13
Oh my,
I see a lot of love here and not a single disrespectful remark. You are an awesome artist. All the above voices prove that fact.
I do have my senior moments, which I hate admitting to them, but you have never went on a vendetta to harm me or make me feel less than human when I have done something out of order. As a person who seems to keep messing up, I still wanna give you a great big hug, because I hear the anguish in your notes.
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 26 Sent: 19/09/2007 19:33
Aw Liz hunni, how kind! I have a very good "nose" for people who have genuine reasons for not collecting tags and those who are just downright lazy and inconsiderate. You fall into the first group, as do virtually all our lovely members here (the Deletions Board is proof of that, as it's so seldom used LOL!) It gets pretty nasty "over at the the other place" too often for my taste, and I thank heavens I have this little haven to retreat to. Don't forget; you are welcome here any time, hun. Hugz, Willow
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameretreeva3</NOBR>  in response to Message 1 Sent: 19/09/2007 22:28
There ya go mate, see we all love ya and dont ever forget it ok..
Debs
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameÜñ†Åm€Ð_£ìÏ_ßløñЀ_§håž</NOBR>  in response to Message 24 Sent: 20/09/2007 00:15
Hunni,
She's jealous that you are such a talented, caring and fun person. She's not even worth worrying about. If i was you (and this IS just what i would do) I would not make her any more tags.
 
You just keep on doing what you do best hun. Make them AWESOME tags!
 
Hugs Shaz
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamecapricorn-lady-1229</NOBR>  in response to Message 29 Sent: 20/09/2007 23:26
WHEN I FIRST ENCOUNTED "WILLOW"
IN "TAGGERS GALLERY".(about a month ago).
I THOUGHT HER TAGS, UNIQUE, LOVELY AND EVEN MORE THEN THAT
SO IS SHE! WHOMEVER SAID THAT TO HER NEEDS A "LOBOTOMY"  LOL!!!
 SHE ALSO INVITED ME TO JOIN HER ROOM AND I THOUGHT THAT VERY NICE.
WILLOW YOU MAKE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TAGS I HAVE EVER SEEN!
YOUR FRIEND,
FRANCESCA
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameJigsawQueen1Sent: 9/24/2007 12:33 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 30 Sent: 21/09/2007 12:27
Aw thanks guys, I felt a bit guilty about airing this matter here, but I was so glad I did because your support has meant so much to me. "All's quiet on the Western Front " as they say, but if she kicks off for a third time I believe she will get her membership cancelled! Lovely to see you here, Fran - we look forward to making some tags for you; there are many here never offered over at TG, or offered before you joined there, so you have plenty of choice LOL!
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamevellathewench</NOBR>  in response to Message 31 Sent: 21/09/2007 19:01
Awww your tags are awesome hun, dont let anyone tell u otherwise. just cause ppl have differnt tastes doesnt mean something isnt good. I know who you speak of, only saw alot of deleted messages and thats it. Well saw her name mentioned. I dont know what happened but i can imagine. I have had issues with a few members over there. One of them i posted in large letters that i wanted them in here and ignored it for a week. Yet she was seen on other boards. Then after i say forget it im not makin stuff for her no more, she says i dont understand why ur so mad. Hmm i wonder. not only dont pick up the numerous tags u offer u ignore a post meant for u, DUH! Im trying not to freak over this stuff but it still pisses me off. 
Now.....Liz (elbowfudd) sent me a msg about this place which is why i am here. I wasnt sure i needed more "work: to do lol but i changed my mind after looking around. So if u still want me im here. I just have to learn how to navigate around here a bit lol.
Have a great day hun! *hugs*
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 32 Sent: 21/09/2007 19:10
Vella hunni - WELCOME!!!!! We would absolutely love to have you on the tagging team here! There is no pressure - we are very easy-going, so don't feel you will be rushed or hassled in any way! I'm soooo pleased you're here - our group of friends widens and it's LOVELY!  LOL!
PS Yes, I'm sure we are speaking of the same person - "a wolf in sheep's clothing" is the phrase that comes to mind LOL!
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamevellathewench</NOBR>  in response to Message 33 Sent: 21/09/2007 23:19
Lol yes i would say so
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 34 Sent: 22/09/2007 10:41
I noticed she posted one of her BIG messages on the General Board about what a "Lady Bountiful" she is:- no black list, or naughty requesters register, no slapped wrist reminders - just a little angel who loves everyone!!!!! LOL! I wish I had a copy of the first set of rules she posted when she started tagging there - my son read them and said she sounded like a certain little Austrian dictator we all remember from our history lessons LMAO!
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamevellathewench</NOBR>  in response to Message 35 Sent: 22/09/2007 16:30
Lmao i know. I laughed when i read it too.I thought she sounded like one of those bossy know it alls u remember from school when she first posted those rules lol. When she first startes she gave me heck when it had been a few hours since she posted a tag for me, like i am there 24/7 or something.
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 36 Sent: 22/09/2007 17:08
WELL!!!
I think there was an old movie called "The spies amongst us" LOL!
I have been threatened this afternoon, via email, for speaking my mind on my own group's boards, by people who are not even members here! Let's just say they are supporters of "that woman"!!!!! Very few (probably only 2 or 3 at most) will actually know who this person is whom I have referred to, or which group is in question, since I named no names.
I have been even told to remove this thread! Can you believe it!!!  Luckily I had my line of defence; I had copied every bit of the crap that person daubed on my Board and I told them I shall have no hesitation in taking it to MSN if there are any further repurcussions to my person and/or my group. (They have NOTHING to use against me as I never retaliated).
They are now accusing me of trying to stir unrest between the few members here who are also members there! Do they not think people have minds of their own and can make their own decisions on what they see for themselves!!!) 
I will NOT be bullied into deleting my own threads at their say-so, but to be honest, I am tired of the topic anyway, and neither she nor them are worth the waste of energy!
So, on to better and brighter things girls  And remember, watch what you say wherever you are; there's always some lurker spying on you and waiting to cause upset and drama for their own unaccountable reasons.
afb.jpg picture by Arianrhod2006 
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamevellathewench</NOBR>  in response to Message 37 Sent: 22/09/2007 22:17
Yup thats so true. I am in some places where i dont use the same name so ppl dont know who i am. Its a shame to have to do that. I have no axe to grind with anyone but i have my own opinions. I dont like trouble either. I honestly cant see how anyone could ask u to remove something from ur own board. I never once saw a name or place mentioned. Anyways, i am just a friendly person who likes to share things and have little time for drama. I deal with it enuff in real life let me tell u. Im just glad u didnt give in Willow to the threats as well as quit making tags for others. And if anyone doesnt like my opinions thats fine, im a big girl and can take your criticism, but i am also very opinionated as my father is always pointing out   and thats just how i am. Glad we r moving on to better things.
Vella
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameYMS57</NOBR>  in response to Message 4 Sent: 22/09/2007 22:25
I have only just got here so i told wnat to say anything out of place, but i have seen both your  work i think its all wonderful. You do a great job and you work hard at it (i know i psp myself) and there is nothing junkish about any of the tags i have seen.
If peeps dont like them they dont have to request them no one is forcing them.
DONT let them get to you they aint worth it, keep up your hard work and be proud of what you do.
Hugs Yvonne xx
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 39 Sent: 23/09/2007 09:04
Thanks girls, yep! - I'm a Taurean... really placid 99% of the time but push me over the line and I dig my heels in LOL!  There is no way I am going to be intimidated by these sad people, I can already see their game-plan emerging and it's making me laugh (not the effect they'd hoped for, I'm sure!) Nope, a couple of years ago I let a cyber-stalker get the better of me and I ended up being very ill, there's no way I would let anyone get to me that much ever again; they're just not worth it. Thanks again guys for your comments and support - it's nice to know you're luvved LOL!  

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From: MSN NicknameJigsawQueen1Sent: 9/24/2007 12:35 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 40 Sent: 23/09/2007 10:53
Hey Yvonne - are we going to see any of your  work on offer here? (pretty please! LOL!)
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 41 Sent: 23/09/2007 13:27
btw Vella, I admire your attitude greatly... you have proved "over there" that having an opinion here does not mean you will go back and stir up more drama - as they "predicted" would happen!  So I thank you for proving them wrong! Also, before this unsavoury business thankfully dies the death - this is for the "spies":
You accused me of trying to hurt a fellow tagger... I would like to point out that I have:
1) Never posted on her board
2) Never requested a tag from her and
3) Been seen to say that I think she does very good work!
On the other hand; she attacked my board when I offered "Rhiannon" even though she wasn't requesting it (so why was she trying to cause so much drama???) by saying in 3ft high letters that I was in violation of group rules and putting the group and it's members at risk, by using artwork that was not allowed and also "pay for" art. I had to go to the trouble of contacting the artist, who although not a personal acquaintance of mine is a fellow Wiccan, and she sent me a kind letter giving me the okay (and sounding a little annoyed by what this person had done!) When forwarded to management I was immediately allowed to offer the tag and told to "let it drop and be the bigger person and move on" which I did (even with no word of apology to clear my name... It was she who came back to attack me again and here I am being held up as the instigator!!! Maybe I'll understand your motivation some day! And all this from two people, one of whom I called a friend! It's true that you never really know who is behind the keyboard...
The End LOL!
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 42 Sent: 23/09/2007 14:39
LMAO this thing just won't lie down and die (but at least it's comical now as opposed to irritating!) This person has now requested 5 tags from my new offer.......................GO FIGURE!......................and what is Willow going to do??????!!!!!! My son (who is furious) sez I should post all over her board in huge letters NO BLEEPING WAY!!!!!!  But, I am going to make them, just as well as I make everyone else's, post them along with the other 64, and if she doesn't pick 'em up - I don't give a darn!!! If it's some kind of ploy to wind me up - it ain't workin' LOL!
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameSammy-Mummy-to-Jake</NOBR>  in response to Message 43 Sent: 23/09/2007 15:09
Hiya Willow
 
Sorry hun, only just came on and saw this, my dad is in hospital again but still.
 
I am so sorry that someone has said that about your tags, you are a fanastic tag maker and make beautiful tags.
 
They are not worth upsetting yourself over them sweetie
 
Love and Hugs
Sammy xxx
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArianrhod333</NOBR>  in response to Message 44 Sent: 23/09/2007 16:02
Hi hunni, I am so sorry to hear that your dad's health has taken a turn for the worse again. I still have him in my Book of Healing and will be sure to remember him in my petitions. Thank you for your support re the above saga LOL! I have put a line under it now (it's getting too yawn-worthy! ) even though something else has haopened  I ain't gonna bore you gals with it any longer! I'm just very appreciative of all the input and support. Take care, drop in whenever you can, and please let me know how things go along for your dear dad. Hugz Willow

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