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| | From:  Freeborn551 (Original Message) | Sent: 4/1/2007 4:22 PM |
Now what about Eve? We find that Eve was deceived; she did not willfully sin against God. Adam deceived her. BUT there is solid proof that Eve repented and turned back to righteousness. Her sins are not mentioned anymore, only to tell what took place in the Garden. Look up ‘Adam�?in the Strongs Hebrew dictionary. It means a mean, low sort of man. It means a hypocrite. It means to be made RED [the red dragon].
Look up ‘Eve�? It means life giver or restorer to life. Adam said she was the Mother of all living. ‘Living�?signifies those who have the life of God. New Jerusalem is the Mother of us all. So this ties Eve with the Holy City of God.
| For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, | | But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. |
| For Adam was first formed, then Eve. | | And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. | | Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. |
Adam was NOT DECEIVED. This proves he sinned WILLFULLY after he knew the truth. God said there is no forgiveness for this wilful sin. Eve did not hear the word right from God, as Adam had. Adam told her what God had said. He told it wrong and deceived Eve. Eve thought she was doing what God had said. This is proven by the fact that she was DECEIVED. This is NOT wilful sin or disobedience. She did what Adam told her to do.
Now this is the last time Eve is mentioned in Scripture. Not one time has sin been named to her. It is not mentioned. It teaches that she was in the transgression only by deception. This is not held against her. If so, then why did Paul add, she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness and sobriety? IF THEY CONTINUE. CONTINUE. This proves that this is the state of Eve at the last mention of her name. It is stating that other women may also be saved by the same means Eve was = by being in faith, charity, HOLINESS, and sobriety. See how Paul switched to ‘they�?/FONT>, meaning other women? He is saying that other women may be saved the same way Eve was, by being holy. �?EM>They�?/FONT> means more than one woman. Here it is speaking of all other women, not Eve. He is saying they may be saved the same way Eve was. God revealed this truth to me. If you look at what is truly being said here, it proves this. Only a WILLFUL disregard of Scripture Truth could cause one to not see this. God has not REMEMBERED any sin against Eve. It is not MENTIONED. She was saved. She lives eternally. Glory to God for this great truth. The MOTHER OF US ALL. Abraham is the Father of the RIGHTEOUS, not Adam. | |
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Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Notice here that Eve gave the LORD [God, the Father] credit for her bearing a son. There is not one word written in the Word about Adam ever one time glorifying God. | |
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Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Notice here again, Eve blesses and honours God for the birth of another son. She also shows here that Abel was counted as her seed, and not the wicked Cain. She here claims the righteous Seth for a replacement of her other righteous son. So, Eve had sided with Abel in serving the true God. She was connected here with both Abel and Seth, not Cain or Adam. She mentions Cain’s sin, so she is living by the same principles God revealed in Eze. 18. Only a spiritually blind person could fail to see the connection here between the righteous sons, Abel and Seth and their mother, Eve. | |
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2Cor 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 2Cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Now there are people in our land who distort the above verse and try to say this is teaching that some evil animal creature had sex with Eve and brought forth Cain. This is a hideous lie from the pits of hell. Not one single word of such filth is mentioned here. Look up the word ‘beguiled�?/EM>. It means to lead by deception. Now where is being deceived a sin? Only when one stays in that deception is it wrong. Eve did NOT stay deceived. I have already proven this. This is merely saying that the serpent [Adam] led Eve into doing wrong by HIS subtlety. She was not subtle, He was. The very fact that Eve was praising and glorifying God for each of her children, proves she was loving God and living for God , at the time of each of her son's birth. Where is any praise from the father, Adam, to God, for his sons? It simply does not exist, for Adam never loved nor served God. Eve did. Abel did. Eve was looking for that RIGHTEOUS SEED, JESUS. This is why she said, God has given me ANOTHER SEED instead of Abel......she was believing the promise God had given to her that her SEED WOULD BRUISE THE HEAD OF THAT SERPENT. This proves that Eve desired for this righteous SEED to deliver them from that serpent! Eve was looking for THE SAVIOUR! Eve was most certainly a HOLY, RIGHTEOUS, REPENTED WOMAN, WHO LIVES TODAY IN NEW JERUSALEM, FOR WHICH SHE STANDS = THE MOTHER OF US ALL. Never one time is Cain called the seed of the woman or Eve. Cain is the seed of the wicked one, Adam, the serpent. | |
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Eze 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. Eze 18:26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
This is the state Adam died in. You cannot find righteousness ever acclaimed to or for Adam in the Word of God. If you think so, then just quote that verse right here for us. If you cannot find one word of righteousness claimed by God for Adam, then it is sure that he died lost and evil. | |
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‘They�?means more than one woman. Here it is speaking of all other women, not Eve. He is saying they may be saved the same way Eve was. God gave me this just now as I wrote this on the other thread: when it said she shall be saved in 'childbearing', it is not speaking of women having natural children. It is speaking of Eve, the Mother of us all, bearing other 'children of God = Christians. God gave me this. Reject it if you will. The children of God will hear this. She bore children, daughters of God. They must CONTINUE on in faith, holiness, CHARITY (maturity in Christian Love) [Paul said this is the bond of PERFECTNESS]. AND soberity,.......continue is showing they must follow the path their Holy Mother, Eve, set for them. Continue.....is showing Eve had all these Holy qualities and that her daughters [children of God; not of the flesh] must follow on in her example to be saved. Surely you all KNOW THAT HAVING NATURAL BABIES DOES NOT SAVE THE SOUL?????!!!! It is totally SPRIITUAL. God revealed this truth to me. If you look at what is truly being said here, it proves this. Only a WILLFUL disregard of Scripture Truth could cause one to not see this. So this fully ties Eve with being the MOTHER of God's children, the Christians. It is speaking of bearing children for God, not the flesh. If it were in the flesh, then all the zillions of women who had babies would be saved.......see it has nothing to do with natural child-birth....it is spiritual child-birth...attributed to EVE. I truly don't see how much plainer this could be said. It is plain from this Scripture that Eve is the SPIRITUAL MOTHER OF ALL THE SPIRITUAL CHILDREN OF GOD.... and that she set a perfect example for us to follow. She had CHARITY, which is the perfection of the hightest step with God. | |
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They must CONTINUE on in faith, holiness, CHARITY (maturity in Christian Love) [Paul said this is the bond of PERFECTNESS]. AND soberity,.......continue is showing they must follow the path their Holy Mother, Eve, set for them.
As I went back and read the above post, I saw this: if this were speaking of natural women, bearing natural babies, then it could not say, IF THEY CONTINUE in these Holy attributes........for we all know that most women, in natural childbirth......are NOT living this Holy, Godly, life and having charity, the bond of perfectness. So saying "IF they CONTINUE" proves they were a Christian, giving spiritual birth, else they would not be in faith and charity. It ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE SPEAKING TOTALLY OF SPIRITUAL BIRTH......IT IS SAYING WHEN OTHER WOMEN, (ANY HUMAN IS INCLUDED HERE)--- WHEN WE GIVE SPIRITUAL BIRTH TO OUR INNER-MANCHILD...THEN WE MUST CONTINUE ON IN THE holy, Godly state we were in at the time of repentance. So this solidly proves that Eve did continue on in this Holy way of faith and life! She is certainly living forever. she most certainly did love God and obey His Word. This is solid PROOF. No sincere person could read this and still deny that Eve repented and lived her life loving and obeying GOD. | |
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| # 3 Stop Jo, you cannot prove none of this! What you are doing is quoting and giving your interpretation, stop before you hurt yourself, if you do not know then just leave it alone. Eric |
Eric, I just went back and saw this. What are you afraid of? Why are you all so afraid of this great TRUTH? Well, let me say to all of you, I AM NOT ONE BIT AFRAID OF THIS GREAT TRUTH. I will teach this truth so long as God allows me to live........then I will go and meet my Holy Mother, Eve. I long to see that Godly woman, who has been more slandered and lied on than any other woman who ever lived........and all because she took her stand for God, and against her evil husband, the devil. Adam is satan and nothing any of you can find or say will ever change it. Now if this I am saying were not true, HOW IN THIS WORLD COULD I FIND AND QUOTE IT OUT OF GOD'S WORD? Maybe this is why so many of you are trying feverishly to tear down any faith in the holy KJV, word of God. No, I am not hurting myself. If I refused to reveal the TRUTH God has shown me, then I would hurt myself. But just because all of you refuse truth, is not going to stop me from teaching it. It is there, in God's Word, for anyone who is willing to listen to HIM. | |
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| Jo is it not true that the serpent approached Eve and not Adam. Jo is it not true that when the Messiah was accused of being Satan, that He said, how can Satan cast out Satan. Jo I agree that we all died with Adam, but I must ask you, [since we were not manifested in the flesh back then, how did we die ? and since we were not manifested in the flesh with the Messiah, how is it we live ? ].. Eric
The problem with all of you is, that you never really read my messages, then take them to the Word and see if it is there or not. You are all so set to believe only what someone else has already taught you, that you have no place in for truth to be revealed. I have already explained all of this over and over...but here goes again......the CARNAL MIND is the serpent. The serpent is or was not a separate person, or as some idots say, some animal, apart from Adam. It was that carnal mind of ADAM. Do any of you ever even try to get truth? or understanding? Why did Jesus call the pharisees , SERPENTS? Does that mean some animal creature, or devil, is walking around inside the Pharisees? How do you understand this? You need to study that for a change. Ask God for truth. If those religious hypocrites in Jesus' day was serpents, why do you think Adam was not a serpent? Now you are misquoting the Word of God. It did NOT say we all died WITH ADAM. It said, as IN Adam, all die. You will die eternally if you live after the flesh, which is that outward man, or first-man, Adam. I truly don't see why this is so hard for you 'smart' folks to understand. Especially that smart Jazz. Wonder why he cannot see something this simple? You must kill the deeds of the flesh, (outer man; Adam) in order to have evernal life. You must put on the NEW MAN, which is Christ in you. this is how we live in Christ. Now I just ask you to show me how Adam has a greater role anywhere? Where is he slanderd? Everyone loves old Adam, upholds him, takes up for him, praises him. lies for him, slanders Eve and all other women for him. Where do you get such stuff? You surely make it up. I have researched Adam for many years.....in the only source of truth,,,,,the Word of God. And I have said so many time, you cannot find one verse saying Adam was good, righteous, loving, loved or praised or worshipped God. Now I have challenged all of you to show me one verse proving Adam was righteous. None of you can do it. so you just go on speaking slander of me, hoping to cover up the fact that none of you, not even mr jazz, can show one verse in favor of Adam. | | |
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