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Adam; Satan : More about Eve
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 4/1/2007 9:11 PM
p.s. I am placing these discussions we had about Eve on the special board, to keep close by.

Paul said,  he that is spiritual judgeth all things.  We can rightly judge by the Word of God.  We may not judge after our own thoughts or some 'churches' thoughts.

Now I did not get any of this revelation from any church or any other person.  In fact I have never heard of anyone else who believes this truth or teaches it.

Now, The reason I can declare, without hesitation, that Eve was declared RIGHTEOUS by God, is the fact that He did not hold any sin against her at the end of her life.  He never named sin against her.  Sin is NAMED against Adam every time he is mentioned.

After one REPENTS of their sins, and turns back to obeying and loving God,  then God does not ever remember their sins against them again.  If one never repents, then their sins are held against them forever.

Also if a righteous person turns away from their righteousness and sins,  and never repents, then their righteousness is not remembered and their sins are named against them at the end of their lives.

As one dies, so do they face the judgment.

Now know that Adam LIED when he blamed Eve for his own sins.  While it is very true that Eve was in the transgression, because he deceived her,  she did not remain in that condition.  Adam did.

Adam never repented.  Adam is held as a sinner until the end of the world, and is cast into the lake of fire as Satan.

Abel was declared to be righteous.  This is because he did serve God acceptably.  Eve is connected with Abel and Seth,  not Adam and Cain.

She knew the truth, and did not claim Cain for HER Seed.  She said when Seth was born,  God has given me another SEED in place of ABEL,  WHOM  CAIN SLEW.

Here she named Cain's sin.  She was living by God's standards.   All women are told they may be saved and be righteous and holy as she was,  if  THEY    CONTINUE  in these holy things.  This proves that Eve was living holy and Godly.  She is the standard for all women to be saved by.

Adam is the one whom God laid the blame on for death to enter this world by   ADAM'S  SIN.

I know this is new to people,  but study the Word with an open mind, and allow God to speak to you.  It is the TRUTH of God's Word.

All who are in Christ Jesus,  are,  right now,  righteous and Holy.  God does not see sin in us, for the blood of Jesus cleansed us  of all sin.  If one is still a sinner, then they are not cleansed by the blood of Jesus.

All who repented in the OT  were called righteous.  Abraham was called righteous.  So was Abel.  So was Job.  There are others.

Yes, Eve did do wrong,  but only as being deceived.  She thought Adam was telling her the truth.  But when she saw the error of this,  she returned to GRACE and repented and is called the MOTHER OF US ALL.  She is linked right here with the Holy New Jerusalem.

Go By  the Word of God;  not by man's traditions.  Man's traditions and teachings are wrong.

Jo



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 4/1/2007 9:21 PM
This is utmost importance in learning the TRUTH about Adam and Eve.
This is copied from Strong's dictionary, the meaning of  EVE.
 

02421   //  hyx  //  chayah   //  khaw-yaw'  // 

a primitive root [compare  
02331  ]; TWOT - 644; v

AV - live 153, alive 34, save 13, quicken 14, revive 12, surely 10,
life 9, recover 8, misc 9; 262

1) to live, have life, remain alive, sustain life, live prosperously,
live for ever, be quickened, be alive, be restored to life or health
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to live
1a1a) to have life
1a1b) to continue in life, remain alive
1a1c) to sustain life, to live on or upon
1a1d) to live (prosperously)
1a2) to revive, be quickened
1a2a) from sickness
1a2b) from discouragement
1a2c) from faintness
1a2d) from death
1b) (Piel)
1b1) to preserve alive, let live
1b2) to give life
1b3) to quicken, revive, refresh
1b3a) to restore to life
1b3b) to cause to grow
1b3c) to restore
1b3d) to revive
1c) (Hiphil)
1c1) to preserve alive, let live
1c2) to quicken, revive
1c2a) to restore (to health)
1c2b) to revive
1c2c) to restore to life

Now there is just entirely TOO  much here to prove that EVE has only to do with LIFE.....GIVING LIFE...RESTORING LIFE.....TO RESTORE......TO REVIVE (RESURRECTION.)  ETC.

I am telling you all, this is more than enough PROOF that Eve is connected only with LIFE, not death.

Adam called her name EVE,  for she was the MOTHER OF ALL LIVING.

This is showing eternal life.  All,  all who have life, came from EVE.  She is the New covenant in the patterns of God.  No one can deny this without totally disregarding Strongs and all of God's word.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 4/1/2007 9:31 PM
Here is the Strong's for Adam:
 
0120   //  Mda  //  'adam   //  aw-dawm'  // 

from  
0119  ; TWOT - 25a; n m

AV - man 408, men 121, Adam 13, person(s) 8, common sort +  
07230  1,
hypocrite 1; 552

1) man, mankind
1a) man, human being
1b) man, mankind (much more frequently intended sense in OT)
1c) Adam, first man
1d) city in Jordan valley

Here is the link from 0119:

0119   //  Mda  //  'adam   //  aw-dam'  // 

of unknown derivation; TWOT - 26b; v

AV - dyed red 5, red 4 ruddy 1; 10

1) to be red, red
1a) (Qal) ruddy (of Nazarites)
1b) (Pual)
1b1) to be rubbed red
1b2) dyed red
1b3) reddened
1c) (Hiphil)
1c1) to cause to show red
1c2) to glare
1c3) to emit (show) redness
1d) (Hithpael)
1d1) to redden
1d2) to grow red
1d3) to look red


Notice, the first link shows Adam to mean "common sort' --hypocrite

The second link proves without a doubt that Adam is Satan, the red dragon.  Notice how it links totally to the color  RED    =  the Scriptural color for SIN.

Notice it also says to be dyed red.  This ties back to the tabernacle Moses made in the wilderness, which is the MOTHER OF HARLOTS.  They dyed those sheep and goat skins RED.

So this conclusively ties ADAM with this mother of harlots.

As in ADAM all die.  Be this one man came sin, and DEATH.

So ADAM is totally connected with DEATH.

 

Eve is connected with LIFE, GIVING OR RESTORING LIFE. AND THE MOTHER OF ALL LIVINGTHE HOLY JERUSALEM.

Adam is connected only with DEATH, HYPOCRICY AND DECEPTION = SUBTLITY.

Take your pick.  Will you choose life or death?  Two trees in the garden.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 4/1/2007 9:37 PM
Here is the Strongs Hebrew for 'serpent'"
 
05175   //  vxn  //  nachash   //  naw-khawsh'  // 

from  
05172  ; TWOT - 1347a; n m

AV - serpent 31; 31

1) serpent, snake
1a) serpent
1b) image (of serpent)
1c) fleeing serpent (mythological)

Here is the link from  05172:

05172   //  vxn  //  nachash   //  naw-khash'  // 

a primitive root; TWOT - 1348; v

AV - enchantment 4, divine 2, enchanter 1, indeed 1, certainly 1,
learn by experience 1, diligently observe 1; 11

1) to practice divination, divine, observe signs, learn by experience,
diligently observe, practice fortunetelling, take as an omen
1a) (Piel)
1a1) to practice divination
1a2) to observe the signs or omens


Now that proves this 'serpent' is no animal.  How could an animal be an enchanter, or diviner?  How could a snake practice divination or any of these other things?  No , it is none other than Adam.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 4/1/2007 9:42 PM
Here is Webster's definition for 'serpent':
 
Main Entry: ser·pent
Pronunciation: 's&r-p&nt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin serpent-, serpens, from present participle of serpere to creep; akin to Greek herpein to creep, Sanskrit sarpati he creeps
1 a archaic : a noxious creature that creeps, hisses, or stings b : SNAKE
2 : DEVIL 1
3 : a treacherous person
 
Now somebody deny this!   Serpent means  DEVIL,  and a treacherous PERSON.
There is your Scriptural meaning, not some animal or reptile.  Get real!  Get with the Scriptures,  not myths.

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