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Baptism : Baptized into Death
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22  (Original Message)Sent: 12/4/2005 4:58 AM

~~ Baptized into Death ~~ Dec. 3, 2005 ~~ By: Jo Smith ~~

I made a start on this message a couple of months ago and then stopped writing on it. Then when I attempted to finish this, the disk I was using would not open. So I am having to start over. I do not remember the thoughts I had at that time, but I pray God will bring this message back to me and let it be what He wants to be taught on this subject. May God bless this and bring forth fruit from it.

I have already written several messages on this subject of Baptism, but this is a total different revelation on baptism. I truly have never heard a message on this particular purpose of baptism.

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Ro 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Ro 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Ro 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Ro 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Ro 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: Ro 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

Ro 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

Ro 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Ro 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

Ro 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Ro 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Ro 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Ro 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Ro 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

This is a very important passage of Scripture, which I am afraid has been totally overlooked by most preachers and church folks. Let’s examine this a verse at a time. The importance and necessity of baptism as a vital part of our salvation has been lost to the people of today. Those who claim that all one must do to find salvation is to just ‘believe�?have closed out most of the Scripture in favor of this false hope of never having to obey the Word of God. We will find in this message that baptism is absolutely NECESSARY for salvation.

Most people think that because we are justified by faith and the blood of Jesus, that this does away with the necessity of baptism. But this is just not the case. We must learn to go by all of the Word, not just a few select verses. All of the Word is God’s Word, so it takes it all to find the complete truth. It is not all listed in the very same spot, for that would be impossible to tell it all in one single verse. Anytime the Word of God is used or spoken or called over a thing or person, that causes the Holy Power of God to be there administering the power for healing, salvation, cleansing, justification or any other need we have. So when one is baptized and the word of God is spoken there, as is commanded by the Apostles, then this causes the act of Baptism to bring about the part of salvation which God ordained it to do . The Word of God spoken over the baptism act causes the water to become Holy and powerful, just as the presence of God caused the ground upon which Moses stood to be Holy Ground. (Be not children in understanding.)

Jesus said he that believeth AND is BAPTIZED shall be saved. Why deny part of the Scripture just because another part did not state it all? None of the Scripture has it all, and that is why we must study and place it together with the other verses to see the truth. Even in the gospel accounts of the life of Jesus, not one of the gospels contains the full account of any happening in his life. You must read the other three gospels books to see the full story. So it is with all the Scripture. So to see the full plan of salvation, one must read all the Scripture which pertains to this. You cannot lock down on one verse, saying all that is necessary to salvation is to just believe. This causes you to come up short for you did not obey the full Word.

In Romans 6:2, Paul asked, how shall we, that are DEAD to sin, live any longer in sin. Now we know that most churches teach that we can never be free from sinning. Is this true? This very chapter proves this is false and deception from Satan. Now how did one become DEAD to sin? Did believing cause him to be dead to sin? No. The devil believes and trembles, but he is full of sin.

Ro 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

If you have been baptized into Jesus Christ then you were baptized into His DEATH. How were you baptized into Jesus? By one Spirit are we baptized into one body. Now this spiritual baptism has two parts. It is not complete until both parts have been obeyed. How do I know? Listen to Peter.

Ac 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

Ac 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Ac 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? Ac 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Now see that these Gentiles had already received the Holy Ghost Baptism, for they had heard them speak in tongues. But did Peter allow this to be all they did? NO. He then COMMANDED them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. See then that Peter understood that they had to have both the Holy Ghost and the water baptism for it to be a complete work of God. He had called this a baptism of water. So in order to be baptized into Jesus Christ, one absolutely must be both water baptized in the Name of the Lord and be filled with the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Both these acts places one into the body of Christ. This is the method used to baptize one into Jesus Christ. It is not complete without both baptisms, for they make up the one Baptism into Christ.

Now when this baptism is accomplished, he said that we were baptized into His death. Ro 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:

See then that we were baptized into his death and not only that but BURIED with him. When one is baptized they are actually buried with Jesus into his death. Most people say that it is only a ‘picture�?or figure of his death and resurrection as we go down into the water and come back up out of the water. But I can assure you, it is MUCH more than that. Something very spiritual takes place right here. Too much carnality has replaced all the true spiritual truths in the Word, leading souls into darkness and destruction.

We actually DIED there with Jesus. We were actually placed into the same spiritual place that Jesus went into. Jesus had to die daily to his outer man, or his natural mind and desires. He had to keep that body under subjection to God at all times. He was ‘dead�?to his outer man, and lived in the inner man, the Holy Ghost. Now this Holy Ghost inner man was not the mind of Jesus or his natural self. It was the Spirit of God living in Jesus. It was his spiritual Christ or manchild. Jesus took it to the ultimate death when he gave his life on that cross. It was complete there and He would never again have that carnal, natural outer body to contend with. When he came out of that grave, He had a spiritual, glorified body in the image of the Eternal God. He that is DEAD is freed from sin.

So when we are baptized we are spiritually killing our outer man and bringing it into subjection to God. We are placed as ONE with Jesus in his death. We are buried into his death. We go into that grave there with him. It is in the Spirit. Then we come up out of that water to walk in NEWNESS of LIFE. This is the likeness of His resurrection. If any man be in Christ (placed there by baptism) he is a NEW creature. He now lives a new life of Holiness by the power of Christ inside him. Instead of actually having to die physically, as Jesus did to accomplish salvation, we only go into his death by this baptism. It is taken in the Spirit as if we did die with him on that cross and go into his grave. You MUST die to self, you MUST be raised into newness of life, if you ever expect to have eternal life.

Since Jesus took our place as our substitute, then we are only required to go be baptized in His Name, showing that we accepted our place in his death and his grave. If you do NOT obey this COMMAND to be water baptized in his Name, then you are not going to be placed into his death and grave. Thus your sins will remain upon you. The only method of having them removed is to obey this command to be baptized in His Name so that you can be placed into his death and grave. Else you still have your sins on you. If you refuse to DIE with him, then you will not LIVE with him. FOR--

Ro 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

See that? IF we were planted TOGETHER (with Jesus) in the likeness of his DEATH, we shall be in the likeness of his resurrection. So, if you refuse to be planted in the likeness of his death, you will NOT be in the likeness of his resurrection either. See then that it is NECESSARY to be baptized in his Name. Else you did not die with him so you cannot live with him. So now what exactly is the true purpose for this baptism?

Ro 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Ro 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

See then that it is for the purpose of crucifying your old man, or the outer nature or sinful self, just as Jesus was crucified. If you do not mortify (kill) the deeds of the old man or the outer man, then you will not live with him. You cannot go into eternal life full of sins. So why do we crucify this old man through this baptism? That the body of SIN might be destroyed, so that we shall not serve sin any longer. For he that is DEAD is freed from sin. See when you fulfill this Word and obey it, then God gives you a new inner man who is Holy and clean. So then if you refuse to be baptized in His Name, being buried into his death, then you will not be able to mortify the deeds of the outer man. If you attempt to do this of your own accord, without being baptized into Christ, then you are saying you can save your own self. But you cannot do that. You cannot live without your sins unless you obey this and receive that new inner self. That is precisely WHY almost all churches say you cannot ever be without your sins. They do NOT receive the correct baptism which washes away their sins and gives them the newness of life which this is speaking of. The very people who claim they can never quit sinning are also the ones who refuse baptism in His Name. Then this is why they never experience living a Godly and Holy life, free from their sins, they never died with Jesus and was buried with Jesus and therefore they were never resurrected with Jesus inside them. They also believe that baptism is not necessary to salvation and that it is not even necessary to be baptized. So they are in full rebellion and disobedience to God, so their sins remain. This is the only method mentioned in Scripture for the REMISSION or removal of sins. So the ‘believer�?goes right on in their sinful life. They did not die with him, they were not buried with him, so their sinful, old man is still ALIVE. They did not crucify or mortify him. So he lives......on in sin.

Read it again:

Ro 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Ro 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Our old man is crucified with him, that the body of SIN might be destroyed, that henceforth (from now on) we should not serve SIN. He that is dead is FREED from sin. Freed from sin means that God removed his sin from him or remitted them. He was set free from his sin. He is now clean and Holy. He has been raised in newness of LIFE. This LIFE is of God. Glory!

Ro 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Ro 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Jesus only died once unto sin. Once was enough. Now death and sin have no more dominion over him. Now the only way our sins can be removed from us is to die also. But since he died for us, then we must die with him. The only means of doing this is to be baptized in water in His Name. So don’t you see how important this is? It is totally necessary if you want your sins remitted, you must die with him. You must be spiritually transported into his death and resurrection.

Ro 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Ro 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Like as Jesus was dead unto sin, we must reckon ourselves to be the same. We must be alive unto God through Jesus. This is the only way to let not sin reign in your mortal body. We must not obey it in the lusts thereof if we wish to have eternal life with him. So we must be placed into his death and grave to be raised with him. Isn’t it beautiful!

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 12/4/2005 5:00 AM

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Ro 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

Yield your body parts (eyes, ears, hands etc) as instruments of righteousness unto God as those who are ALIVE FROM THE DEAD. Now if you did not die, how can you be alive FROM the dead? So you must die with him in that water.

Ro 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Ro 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Now here is a powerful truth. Sin shall not have dominion over you BECAUSE you are not under the law any longer, but under grace. See then that sin shall have dominion over you as long as you are under the law. Then don’t you see that the only way to have GRACE is to obey this baptism in water in his Name and the baptism of the Holy Ghost? If you have not obeyed this, you are under the law and your sin remains. You cannot come into grace except through this death by baptism and resurrection into newness of life. Sinners are not in grace. There is no such thing as a sinner saved by grace. If you remain a sinner, then you have not come into grace.

Ro 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Ro 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

See that only those who obeyed from the heart that doctrine which was delivered to then of being baptized in His name for the remission of sins, were made free from sin and became servants of righteousness.

Ro 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. Ro 6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

See here it proves that the only way to stop being a servant of sin is to become righteous? The only way to do this is by being baptized into his death and grave, then be raised in his life. See also that the end of that sinful life is DEATH? This is the death of your own life into hell fire, for you refused to kill the deeds of the outer man through this baptism into death. So your end is to die eternally.

Ro 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. Ro 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

We know that believing-only does not set one free from sin. And this is as far as most people ever go. This is why they always think they cannot quit sinning. They are indeed still sinners, as they freely confess. Yet they think they now have eternal life. It does not fit this Scripture! One must be made FREE from sin. The only way to do this is to die with him by baptism. Be raised in newness of LIFE. In this LIFE is no sin. The wages of staying in that sinful life is death. See without the DEATH into his death, one will have to die the second death. The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. But the only means of receiving this eternal life is through being baptized into His death, buried with him and raised to walk in newness of a Holy Life.

Ro 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. Ro 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter

Jesus was made under the law. But he lived the life of a servant of God. When he died he was set free from that law and brought into Grace. The only way we can become DEAD to the law is by the body of Christ. By one Spirit are we baptized into one body (of Christ). So here again, is full proof that the only means of being set free is by DEATH. We must be DEAD to the law to be married to Christ. The way we are made dead to the law is to be baptized into Christ, into his death. See that the motions of sins were by the law, for it is dead and we were held in it. But after we obey the Holy Baptism into his death, then we are set free from the law and brought into grace, so we can serve in NEWNESS of Spirit or life. The letter or law is death and bondage. So we must be set free from this death by being baptized into the death of Jesus. Then we can be resurrected with Him to live free from sin. There is no other way!

Ro 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

See that being under law was a body of death. That law was death. It was a body of death. That is why we must be baptized into the death of Jesus to be set free from that body of death. You will either be dead, under law, in trespasses and sins, or you will die to your outer man and live after the inner man in holiness. You cannot do this of your own strength and will-power. You must be baptized into Christ to have this victory.

Ro 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Ro 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

See that we must be in Christ Jesus (by one Spirit are we baptized into Christ) in order to be made free from the law of sin and death. Believing does NOT place you into Christ. You must be baptized into Christ, first passing through his death and grave.

Ro 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live

See there is proof that you must mortify or kill the deeds of the body to live. So you must be baptized into his death to kill your own mortal deeds of sin. This is the only way to be set free from that carnal mind, which is death.

Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry.

Now see the above is teaching the same thing. Ye are DEAD with Christ, (but are you really dead?) and ye are RISEN with Christ. See this is the thing which took place at your baptism in Jesus�?Name. Ye died with him, then rose with him. It is spiritually already happened. See then he said for you to MORTIFY, or kill your members of sin. This is the second witness saying you must die with Christ before you can live. There is no other way taught in the Word except through baptism into Christ which is accomplished by the baptism in water in his name, and then the baptism of the Holy Ghost. It takes both to make up the ONE BAPTISM.

Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Now the above verses are conclusive proof of this message! It is also a very deep revelation here. This is showing that the WATER baptism (buried) is the same thing, or works the same spiritual operation as the OT circumcision, which was only a type of this true happening! We are circumcised without hands through the water baptism in His Name. This is powerful truth! It is proof for it said in putting off the BODY of SINS. Now we have already proven in Romans six, that this is accomplished by the baptism. This baptism is the circumcision of Christ, for it is Christ who performs this setting us free from the body of sins, which were by the law. See it said BURIED WITH HIM IN BAPTISM. So that is the same as in Romans six, that we are buried with him when we are baptized. We are baptized into his death and buried with him. Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, ..This ‘wherein�?refers to the baptism, wherein ye are risen with him. See that it said in Romans six that we are raised in the likeness of his resurrection. This is saying the very same thing. Risen with him -- how? Through the faith of the operation of God. See this also proves what I told you, that it is accomplished in the Spirit by God. It is a spiritual happening which only God can do. Then if we obey the command to be baptized in His Name and receive the Holy Ghost, we receive that circumcision of Spiritually cutting off the body of sins. See this is the answer to the cry in Romans 7-- who shall deliver me from this body of death.

Only obedience to this Holy Command to be water baptized into his death, via water baptism in his Name, can cut away the body of sins by this circumcision made without hands. This is further proof that those who refuse to be baptized in his Name are never set free from their sins. They continue to sin and still think they are set free and saved just because they say they ‘believed�? But see that through all of this, not one word has been mentioned about believing entering into this act of burying us with Jesus and going into his death to be raised up to holy life and cutting away the body of sins. It is not accomplished via believing! It is only accomplished by the operation of God who brings it to pass when we obey his Word to be water baptized in Jesus�?Name. This is the only way we are baptized into his death and buried with him by baptism to receive this cutting away the body of sins. See that verse 13 said that now God has forgiven us all our trespasses. This is how we are set free from our sins. See how all of this fits so perfectly together and says the same thing! This is how all truth fits together.

Mt 20:19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again. 20:20 Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. 20:21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.

Mt 20:22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. Mt 20:23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with:

Lu 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!

In the above verses, Jesus was speaking of his coming crucifixion or death. See that he called it a ‘baptism�? He also told his disciples that they would indeed drink of his cup and be baptized with the baptism that he was baptized with. He was speaking of how they would all be baptized into his death. I have always thought this was speaking of their own death as a martyr. God just now revealed it to me that this is not what Jesus was speaking of. He was telling them they would be baptized into his death and burial by being baptized in water in his Name. See this way every child of God has partaken of the death of Jesus. Sure the disciples were murdered, but this is NOT what Jesus was speaking of here. He was telling them they would all be baptized into one body where they would no longer desire to be set one above the other. See they had wanted to be set up above the others. So Jesus told them you will all become one by being baptized into my one body and my death. This baptism into DEATH united them into Holy Love for each other.

Amen!

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 6/5/2006 11:14 PM
This is a great message.

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  THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS MESSAGE FREEBORN. I AM GONING TO READ IT AGAIN. TWEETY

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/11/2006 1:41 AM
Thank you, Tweety.  And may you be greatly blessed and fed as you read it.  some of this same message is in the last one I wrote,  Life is in the blood.
 
If you read that with this one, it will become more clear.
 
God bless your understanding.
 
love,
Jo

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Tweety, this is the message I was speaking to you about.  Study this out.

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