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Church: Israel : Is your Church of God?
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From: joie2  (Original Message)Sent: 10/19/2004 11:31 PM

~~ Is Your Church of God? ~~

God has a great Controversy against the church. God had a great controversy against Israel. God ended up hating them both. Now that is a strong and powerful statement. Such a strong statement needs be proven and I SHALL.

Today is Monday, October 18, 2004. It is now 6PM. This morning God began speaking to me about bringing His controversy against the present-day church. He has already given me several messages against this church, all coming in a row, which I neither planned nor sought out. I never intended to write any of those messages but God gave them to me one right after the other. I have wanted to get to another message for a good while now, but can’t get it done. God keeps dealing with me about His controversy against the church. I must obey Him and bring what He wants me to teach.

The reason I say God hated both Israel and the church is because they have proven to be one and the same. I have already solidly proven this in many messages. Old law Israel became the seven-headed church. They brought all of the old ways of law and the priest system right into the church. Neither of these systems were truly ever of God. Now I know this is going to be hard for anyone to see but if you wish to come out of darkness into light you are going to have to accept and see this truth.

Both old Israel and the church were in total disobedience to God and went contrary to His ways. They both set up systems of their own ways and not God’s ways. Neither one was obedient to God’s Word.

Amos 5:1 Hear ye this word which I take up against you, even a lamentation, O house of Israel. 5:2 The virgin of Israel is fallen; she shall no more rise: she is forsaken upon her land; there is none to raise her up.

Now see the above verse says that God has a word AGAINST Israel. The virgin of Israel is FALLEN. She shall rise no more. She is forsaken. That is the first time Babylon fell. She is fallen, is fallen. {Rev. 18}. Twice ‘she�?fell. I taught on this in ‘Twice dead, plucked up by the roots�? This is a powerful message against the church, which you need to study. If His word is against her and she fell to rise no more, then she is hated and done away with.

This is a good place to start the controversy against the church. Almost all churches teach that God will establish Israel again. But see that here He said she will rise NO MORE. Do you believe God or the church? As I have said before why would the church teach this? The reason is because the church is old Israel in disguise.

Amos 5:10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.

The churches hate those who rebuke in their gates and they hate those who speak uprightly, just exactly as Israel did, for they are old Israel. They have the same characteristics.

Amos 5:11 Forasmuch therefore as your treading is upon the poor, and ye take from him burdens of wheat: ye have built houses of hewn stone, but ye shall not dwell in them; ye have planted pleasant vineyards, but ye shall not drink wine of them. 5:12 For I know your manifold transgressions, and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, and they turn aside the poor in the gate from their right.

The church fulfills this same evil doings. They tread upon the poor, take all they can from him to build their houses of hewn STONE. They are full of sins. Their pastors are almost all adulterers, liars, cheats, and money-hungry robbers. In this message I shall prove that accepting pay for preaching or any other work for God is the mark of the beast. Paying the preacher is having the mark in the hand. Accepting pay for your work for God is having the mark in your head. This alone marks almost all and possibly every church today, as a beast church.

Amos 5:16 Therefore the LORD, the God of hosts, the Lord, saith thus; Wailing shall be in all streets; and they shall say in all the highways, Alas! Alas! And they shall call the husbandman to mourning, and such as are skilful of lamentation to wailing. 5:17 And in all vineyards shall be wailing: for I will pass through thee, saith the LORD. 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. 5:19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

The above Scripture shows that the time is when the wrath of the Lamb is starting to be poured out upon the church. The Day of the LORD is the time of his wrath. I had several visions from God about the very thing spoken of is this scripture. I saw people running and screaming in stark fear. They were in all the streets. Now the streets and highways represent the different churches. The churches are the path or the roads, thus the highways. This is showing the Wrath of God coming against this naked church. To them the Day of the LORD will be darkness and not light.

Amos 5:21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

Now the above statement is a strong and powerful word. This is GOD saying he hates and despises something. When God hates something, we had better take notice of it!

Isa 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. 1:12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts? 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

Open your spiritual eyes and read the above verses. God said I delight not in the blood of animals. This proves that God never at any time told them to do this thing. God never at any time approved of slaying those animals. Yet the church has taught us all that God required this. It is just not true. The blood of animals never at any time cleansed those people. So where did this practice come from? It came from the sin of Adam and Cain. THEY started this animal sacrifices. Now I know that is a strong and controversial statement. I teach things most people never heard, so I cannot do as most minister, just say things and expect others to just believe it because some teacher said a thing. I prove everything I say with written Scripture. Yet people still refuse to believe it. The same people will believe the most outrageous lies just because some fancy preacher says it. He never gives them one word of proof, yet they just accept it.

Isa 66:2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

[God looks to or accepts a men with a poor and contrite spirit and trembles at his word.

66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

[Now I see here no time period mentioned. So this applies to ALL time. God said killing an ox is to him the same as slaying a man. Sacrificing a lamb was to God as cutting off a dog’s neck. Offering oblation is the same as offering swine’s blood. Burning incense is blessing an idol. Now is not all of this the OT law way of worship? Sure it was. Yet this proves God never approved of this practice! But he said they chose their own ways. This proves it was THEIR way and not God’s way. God never chose that form of worship! He said these things were abominations. People, listen to this. It is God’s Word, not mine!]

Isa 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

[Now here God said they chose that in which He delighted not. This was their abominable animal sacrifices and the burning of incense and offering oblations. See? God said he never delighted in these things! It was their own ways. Who started these abominable practices? Satan, which is Adam and Cain!]

Isa 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

[Now this verse proves that someone tried to sanctify themselves and purify themselves in some garden behind some tree in the MIDST. Now the only place in Scripture which answers or explains this is what Adam and Eve did in the Garden of Eden. That tree of the knowledge of good and evil was in the MIDST of that garden. The Word clearly says that they ATE of this tree. Paul said by the LAW is the knowledge of sin. Rom 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

...the motions of sins were by the LAW and brought forth DEATH. The day you eat of it you die! How much clearer need it be said? You who claim sex is this tree, where is your Scripture saying by sex is the knowledge of sin? Or one which says by sex came death? Wake up! Open your blinded eyes!

Ro 7:7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. Ro 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. Ro 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

...I had not known sin but by the LAW.(did not say I knew sin by sex). I had not known lust EXCEPT THE LAW said Thou shalt not covet. This proves he is speaking of that ten commandment law. Thou shalt not covet. So how is this something God despised? He hates people trying to serve him by LAW. He wants us loving righteousness and obeying Him and doing good because we have His love and grace in our hearts. He does not want LAW in our hearts. Notice he said we were alive without the law. That was Adam and Eve before they sinned or took up the law and tried to sanctify themselves with the blood of a swine. Remember God said in Isa. 66 that to slay a lamb is the same as offering swine’s blood. So there is no difference. See the law demands animal sacrifices which makes the death of Jesus and His shed blood of no effect.

This is solid proof that the LAW is that tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I have proven this with God’s Word. Now let all those false teachers which say it is something else bring forth one verse of Scripture proving their lie.

Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

{The commandment was unto death}.

Ro 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

{The law was the thing which caused their sin to slay them.}Ro 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Ro 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

{The law itself is holy and good. It is not the law which is bad. This fact throws some churches into believing they must still go by law and keep those commandments as a way of serving God. But see that God said he hates this system? But when you try to go under this law, sin results and sin brings forth death. Why? Ro 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

Without the LAW sin was DEAD. The law revived sin. When Adam went to law he brought death by his sin. Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

See Jesus delivered us from the LAW. Why? Because so long as one is under law they are dead in sins. So it was the law which He had to deliver us from in order to save us. Now if sex had been the original sin, then Jesus would have to deliver us from sex in order to save us. See how foolish this becomes? How then should more people be born?

Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

....justified by law? That goes back to Isa. 66 where they sanctified themselves behind that tree in the midst of the garden. So this shows why it brought forth death -- they fell from grace. By grace are you saved, not by the works of the law. If this is not plain enough for you, please go back to the first grade and learn to read!

Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Ga 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Acts 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

Now see that those Jews were trying to bring the Christians back under the bondage of LAW. They were claiming you cannot be saved without keeping the law. Paul said by GRACE are you saved.

What did Peter say? Ac 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Peter said God put no difference between Jews and Gentiles. He called that law a yoke of bondage. This proves that law is the bondage Jesus delivered us from. He agreed with Paul that we are both saved by GRACE. So who are you going to believe? Your lying church or these Apostles who wrote the NT? Also notice that when a question like this arose all of the men of God came together to discuss this and seek the right answer. Where is a church today that handles question in this manner? Know of any? No! They go by the whore churches method = one man tells the others what to believe and they are not allowed to question his decision. I say this system is of the devil.

Ac 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

This is their final answer = we gave no commandment to keep the law. Yet the pastors today harp that you must tithe, keep a Sabbath day, go to their set time and place for ‘worship�? All of this is law. You must also pay this man to rule over you. This too is law and the mark of the beast.]

Now did Jesus agree with this? Let’s see. Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

[Here Jesus said God has had no pleasure in the OT burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin. Is not this is full agreement with all the other Scriptures on this subject? Sure it is. If you or your ‘church�?disagrees, then find one verse which said that God required these sacrifices or had pleasure in them.]

Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

Heb 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

[Jesus was the one who did the will of God, not those OT priests killing sheep and goats. Notice it said ‘thou wouldest not�? What does this mean? It means God did not want these things! Again it said he had no pleasure in them. It is repeated twice here to ESTABLISH this as truth!]

Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

He took away that first or law covenant. He established the second which is by the blood of Jesus and His grace. If you go back to law, the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you do despite to the spirit of grace and his blood will not cover your sins. See that it said we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. This is why God never required or enjoyed or accepted the animal sacrifices. This is Adam’s rebellion and sin. He brought up the animal sacrifices for sanctification. He ate of the law tree. He fell from grace. His sin remains for he knowingly and willfully did this sin.

Now I know you are wondering why I have gone into all of this. It is to show you that all of the churches today have gone right back to that tree of law. They all teach you must tithe and attend their little local assembly. This fits the old way of having to have a ‘certain�?place to go to for worship. It totally belies the NT way of what Jesus taught that neither in Jerusalem or in that mountain do we worship. We worship in Spirit and in truth, not some certain place. See then that all the churches are into lies and deception telling you that you MUST attend some local church at a certain time. They tell their people that they MUST go somewhere. This is setting up a law which God had taken down.

The church offers their ‘sacrifices�?of money, but to what avail is it? Their ‘fed beasts�?are their paid preachers. God is full or fed up with their being made ‘fat�?this way. Jesus said freely you have received [the messages] freely give. GIVE. This is the Mark of God. This is the Mark of the true Church. Notice how these ‘fed beasts�?have perverted this saying: they hound it into the members that it means for them to give their money to them. But that is not what Jesus was speaking of. He was telling his disciples that they were to give the spiritual food to the people. How different these preachers are today!

Isa 1: 13--the ‘calling�?of assemblies is INIQUITY to God! The solemn meetings are iniquity to God. He said they are a trouble to Him and He is weary to bear them. This is very strong words. It is saying that God despises the set time for assemblies and the churches solemn meetings. To Him it is sin. In verse 14 He makes this very clear that God HATES their appointed feasts. Appointed feasts means a set time and place to get together and supposedly ‘eat�?the Word or ‘have church�?

‘Have church�? ‘go to church�? local church, local assembly are all terms these ‘fed beasts�?use to chain their prisoners to them and keep them paying them to preach. But I did a search and found that none of these terms are even ONCE written in the Word of God from Genesis through Revelation. So then I ask you, where did this doctrine come from? It could not have come from God, for he said not to add to His Word. So it had to come from Satan. Satan is the father of lies.

God then tells them he will not hear their prayers. Then He tells them to wash and make themselves clean. The only way to do this is by repenting, being baptized in water in the Name of Jesus Christ and coming under His shed blood. Then they must learn to do well, seek judgment and help the widows and fatherless.

Now this Scripture in Isaiah and Amos both bear witness that God hates the church’s called or appointed assemblies and their paid preachers. God said he hates these feast days. So if He hates this how is it His true way or true Church? Cannot be!

Check your churches method of doing things and what they teach you and compare it with the Written Word of God. If you do not, then you are willfully letting these hirelings lead you into destruction. If you do not care enough to study the Word to find truth, then you will lose your soul. If your church and beliefs do not agree with the Word, if it is not written in the Scriptures then it is lies and destruction.

The early church, which is the only true Church in the Word, went everywhere, out into the world preaching to everyone. They were in a complete unity. But notice these churches today. They are all divided, even among those of like beliefs. Their ‘fed beast�?of a pastor tells them it is their DUTY to be at their own local assembly each time they have a get-together. In other words if they should go visit some other brother or sister church God will be against them. They will be cut off. They will thus sin. Yet the preacher lives in adultery and lies and robbery etc. This is saying that God cannot and will not bless them or be pleased with them if they leave church A and go worship with church B. Is not this division? Sure it is. Does this fit the Written Word? If you think so, I ask one of you to show me where that verse is.

Another thing I hear pastors saying to their people is that they can never rise above the pastor! In other words they are saying they are the priest or go-between for the people and God. They are saying that those children of God cannot go and receive anything directly from God for themselves, they must come through that pastor! This is a blatant doing away with of the work Jesus died to accomplish, which was to take away that middle wall and open the way into the Holy place so we can ALL GO TO GOD FOR OURSELVES. We do not need a human intercessor now for Jesus is our only intercessor. Yet these self-glorying men lift themselves up as the only one who can receive something from God. In other words, they are making themselves god to the people.

We are told we can all come boldly into the presence of God ourselves. People, if your pastor tells you such things, you need to get up and run as fast and as far away from him as you possibly can. He is leading you straight to hell fire. He is denying you your God-given right to come to God and to study and grow and learn from God for yourself. These same pastors never study and receive true revelation. They are not giving you anything but lies, for they cannot prove a thing they teach with written Word. Yet you pay him a big fat salary to lead you astray, for you are too lazy or just too uninterested to study and worship yourself. You pay him to tell you what the Word says. It will take you to hell. I am warning any who might ever read this. You are paying a man to lead you to hell. He has disconnected you from God.

There is not a church in this land which you could not easily prove it is not of God if you would just compare it with the Word. It is just as the law system was at the time of Jesus. That law system was esteemed as the only way to serve God, and yet I have proven here that it was never of God. The church system today is the same. It has never been of God. It has never done things according to the Book of Acts and the only true Church. Yet almost 100% of people today, both those who ‘go to church�?and those who do not go, will agree that going is the only way to serve God. Yet not one single verse of Scripture says we must GO ANYWHERE. Show it to me! The only place Jesus told us to go was out into the world to preach to those out in the highways and hedges. Yet the church system today does not do this. They sit like a spider and wait for some unsuspecting soul to come into their web for destruction. They claim you must come to them for salvation.

Very few of them pray for the sick. Most of those who do are not really healing anyone. It is just a dead form. They will still run to the doctor when something is wrong. They have no real faith. They have totally departed from God’s standard of a Holy Life. They teach you that only the men ministers can teach in their ‘church�? Yet the Word says we are all to grow up and teach the Word. We are all to minister. We are all priests and kings to God. Yet they hold their people in paralysis and keep them from ever growing up one tiny bit in Christ. This is done to keep you bound to them and having to attend their theater and pay them. Shame on you! Most of them will tell women they cannot minister. Yet women are the very first ones Jesus anointed and sent out with the gospel message. Check your church with these things. If it is not being done exactly as what is written in the Word then it is of Satan. It is Satan’s kingdom on earth. Satan’s seat in in the church. Satan’s ministers are paid to lead you astray. God’s ministers do this freely as Jesus told us to do.

Cont.

 



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 Message 11 of 25 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 10/26/2004 1:23 AM
 
This is showing the church to-day
Ezekiel 5
1   And thou, son of man, take thee a sharp knife,( Word) take thee a barber's razor, and cause it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee balances to weigh, and divide the hair.
2   Thou shalt burn with fire a third part in the midst of the city, when the days of the siege are fulfilled: and thou shalt take a third part, and smite about it with a knife: and a third part thou shalt scatter in the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.
3   Thou shalt also take thereof a few in number, and bind them in thy skirts.
4   Then take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the fire, and burn them in the fire; for thereof shall a fire come forth into all the house of Israel.
5   Thus saith the Lord GOD; This is Jerusalem: I have set it in the midst of the nations and countries that are round about her.
6   And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her: for they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked in them.
7   Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye multiplied more than the nations that are round about you, and have not walked in my statutes, neither have kept my judgments, neither have done according to the judgments of the nations that are round about you;
8   Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations.
9   And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations.
10   Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and the sons shall eat their fathers; and I will execute judgments in thee, and the whole remnant of thee will I scatter into all the winds.
11   Wherefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD; Surely, because thou hast defiled my sanctuary with all thy detestable things, and with all thine abominations, therefore will I also diminish thee; neither shall mine eye spare, neither will I have any pity.
12   A third part of thee shall die with the pestilence, and with famine shall they be consumed in the midst of thee: and a third part shall fall by the sword round about thee; and I will scatter a third part into all the winds, and I will draw out a sword after them.
13   Thus shall mine anger be accomplished, and I will cause my fury to rest upon them, and I will be comforted: and they shall know that I the LORD have spoken it in my zeal, when I have accomplished my fury in them.
14   Moreover I will make thee waste, and a reproach among the nations that are round about thee, in the sight of all that pass by.
15   So it shall be a reproach and a taunt, an instruction and an astonishment unto the nations that are round about thee, when I shall execute judgments in thee in anger and in fury and in furious rebukes. I the LORD have spoken it.
16   When I shall send upon them the evil arrows of famine, which shall be for their destruction, and which I will send to destroy you: and I will increase the famine upon you, and will break your staff of bread:
17   So will I send upon you famine and evil beasts, and they shall bereave thee: and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee; and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the LORD have spoken it.


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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 10/26/2004 1:29 AM
This is also showing the church to-day........
 
Ezekiel 6
1   And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2   Son of man, set thy face toward the mountains of Israel, and prophesy against them,
3   And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy your high places.
4   And your altars shall be desolate, and your images shall be broken: and I will cast down your slain men before your idols.
5   And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of Israel before their idols; and I will scatter your bones round about your altars.
6   In all your dwellingplaces the cities shall be laid waste, and the high places shall be desolate; that your altars may be laid waste and made desolate, and your idols may be broken and cease, and your images may be cut down, and your works may be abolished.
7   And the slain shall fall in the midst of you, and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
8   Yet will I leave a remnant, that ye may have some that shall escape the sword among the nations, when ye shall be scattered through the countries.
9   And they that escape of you shall remember me among the nations whither they shall be carried captives, because I am broken with their whorish heart, which hath departed from me, and with their eyes, which go a whoring after their idols: and they shall lothe themselves for the evils which they have committed in all their abominations.
10   And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that I would do this evil unto them.
11   Thus saith the Lord GOD; Smite with thine hand, and stamp with thy foot, and say, Alas for all the evil abominations of the house of Israel! for they shall fall by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence.
12   He that is far off shall die of the pestilence; and he that is near shall fall by the sword; and he that remaineth and is besieged shall die by the famine: thus will I accomplish my fury upon them.
13   Then shall ye know that I am the LORD, when their slain men shall be among their idols round about their altars, upon every high hill, in all the tops of the mountains, and under every green tree, and under every thick oak, the place where they did offer sweet savour to all their idols.
14   So will I stretch out my hand upon them, and make the land desolate, yea, more desolate than the wilderness toward Diblath, in all their habitations: and they shall know that I am the LORD.


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From: joieSent: 10/26/2004 4:02 AM
Larry and our whole group:  greetings:  As I just now read your two messages of DESTRUCTION to the Church, I sat her week, almost numb, tense, almost breathless, almost frightened, almost crying, awed, and yet glorying in the fact of how much I see the Living God at work here tonight between you and me.  With you and me.  Two witnesses of this truth!
 
Now Unless I had taken so much time getting the message I am about to post, printed out twice, we would have been here at the same time.  I was at my computer writting what God gave me on the DESTRUCTION of the Church at the very time you were doing yours.
 
Now maybe no one else will believe you and me, but I am telling you, I BELIEVE THIS.  And it is awsome and almost frightening to me.  For I KNOW this is not 'play' stuff or 'make-believe' stuff. 
No.
This is as much of God as any of His Word.
 
See, I found another message, almost identical to Is your Church of God, which I have written over a year ago.  As God is my witness, I had FORGOTTEN THIS MESSAGE.  For I have never placed it into my documents or printed it out.  It was on the same disk as my Rachel message.  Unless God had moved on me yesterday to redo Rachel, I would not have found this.
 
In the end of that message, Conditions for destruction, I spoken prophecy to the Laodician Church that God will soon destroy her unless she repents.
Then I wrote this same explaination at the end of that message, and having forgotten already that this statement was at the end of that message, GOD MOVED ON ME AGAIN TO REPEAT THIS WARNING.
 
I was totally shocked when I went back up and saw that it was already written at the end of the message.
 
Now imagine how I feel when I come in here and see you were posting this same warning of destruction at the very time I was working on my message.
 
If this is not confirmation that this is from God, I don't know anything which could be.  In fact I ran to the phone to call you when I saw what was in my Conditions message.  But decided not to, for you could be in bed.
 
You were here writing the same warning.  It is sure.  It is of God.  Something dreadful is soon to happen!
 
JO
p.s.  I will not copy this now, for I have that other message on my clipboard to post.  That is how sure and close this work tonight is.  My message, Condition for destrucion, is right now on my clipboard to be posted in a minute.  Such ONENESS!

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From: joieSent: 10/26/2004 4:23 AM
 
Larry and anyone else who will read this>>>>>>>>  I am so in awe right now and my insides are jelly, 'so-to-speak'.  I am weak in the knees.  I am in amazement.  Please, everyone of you, no matter what you think of Larry and me, please read these two messages and let God speak to your heart.
 
Larry, It is almost more than I can do to sit here without calling and probably waking you up.  [How I wish you would sign in here right now]
 
Larry, as God is my witness, when I finished the above message, BEFORE I came onto the internet, I said to myself, well this is the third double witness.  I know I have witnessed this thing here myself two times tonight.  Really three, counting the fact that I re-wrote the same warning.  But I said to myself,  that is THE NEEDED  TWO   WITNESSES, wonder where the third one is......for I know something this important is usually fulfilled with the THREE witnesses.
 
But I was content with the TWO,  for I KNEW in myself, that my God had led in all of this.  He had led me to open "Conditions for destruction" and read it.  Then to print it out, but then I redid it for I wrote that last page and printed it out again.  In all it took up enough time, that you had finished posting your warning from EZEKIEL under My message, Is your church of God.
 
Strange isn't it, that we both refered to EZEKIEL, at the same time, neither of us knowing the other was near their computer writting the same thing!
 
Now if that is not God at work, please someone, tell me where He ever worked!
 
I AM VERY SURE OF THIS.
People heed the warning.........COME OUT OF THAT DEAD CHURCH SYSTEM AND SAVE YOUR SOULS.
 
Stay there and receive her DESTRUCTION ..........VERY SOON TO FALL OR COME.
 
This much moving of God will not go without being fulfilled.  Be very sure of that.  God had moved on me in a mighty spirit of prophecy when I first wrote the above message.  Then again tonight he gave me that same  spirit.
 
Praise our Lord.  Hide me in Jesus Christ, the Rock of ages.
 
Jo
 

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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 10/26/2004 12:50 PM
Joie, this is awesome. When I posted under the thread that you did on "Is This Your Church" I just happen to open my bible to Ezekiel and look down and saw in those chapters that I posted is that Ezekiel was prophesing about the church in those chapters and I said that this will go with the message that joie  posted about the church. It was no mistake that I just happen to open my bible to those chapters. It had to be and was led of God,that I am sure of.
 
Another thing I am glad that you brougth the other message back up because I did not remember you doing it and I also did not have it saved in my documents and did not have it in print.  I just save it to my documents and printed it out.
 
joie I just check to see how many of your messages I had saved in my documents and it is over 200 messages that you alone have done. Can you believe that? That is only part of them. No telling how many that is on this board.

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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 10/26/2004 1:01 PM

Here we have another prophet speaking againstt he church and the pastors.

Jer. 12: 6. For even thy brethren, and the house of thy father, even they have dealt treacherously with thee; yea, they have called a multitude after thee: believe them not, though they speak fair words unto thee.


7. I have forsaken mine house, I have left mine heritage; I have given the dearly beloved of my soul into the hand of her enemies.
8. Mine heritage is unto me as a lion in the forest; it crieth out against me: therefore have I hated it.


9. Mine heritage is unto me as a speckled bird, the birds round about are against her; come ye, assemble all the beasts of the field, come to devour.
10. Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.

(Here He spoke of the O.T. pastors = the prophets, priests, and kings, led them astray) --- in the church the same thing happened, the pastors led them astray again by taking them BACK to the law).


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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 10/26/2004 1:18 PM

Book of Daniel

Chapter 55:1 Belshazzar the king made a great feast to a thousand of his lords, and drank wine before the thousand.

5:2 Belshazzar, whiles he tasted the wine, commanded to bring the golden and silver vessels which his father Nebuchadnezzar had taken out of the temple which was in Jerusalem; that the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, might drink therein.

5:3 Then they brought the golden vessels that were taken out of the temple of the house of God which was at Jerusalem; and the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, drank in them.

5:4 They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold, and of silver, of brass, of iron, of wood, and of stone.

5:5 In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote. The same thing that God said Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? See also he said he was against the candlestick and we know that a candlestick in the scriptures show the church.

Revelations tells us this....... The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.  

They took all the golden nuggets out of the house of God and therefore they needed not God for they had become rich and in need of nothing.

But see what happened in vs. 5 the same thing that happened to the rich man that said I will tear down and build And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. See the same thing that they were doing eating drinking and being merry. Same thing that also was happening in the days of Noah eating, drinking and being merry. The same thing that is also happening in the church world to day. And what did God tell the last church age which is the church system today. He said I will spew you out of my mouth.

But look what happened in vs. 5 the same thing that God said would happened to the rich man that was building bigger barns to hold his riches. But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? In the same hour came forth the handwriting on the wall and his soul was required of thee.

Why did this happen? Because he had lifted himself up as God and became proud just as the churches of today have. Look what we done they say.

5:18 O thou king, the most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar thy father a kingdom, and majesty, and glory, and honour:

5:19 And for the majesty that he gave him, all people, nations, and languages, trembled and feared before him: whom he would he slew; and whom he would he kept alive; and whom he would he set up; and whom he would he put down.

5:20 But when his heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him:

5:21 And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.

5:22 And thou his son, O Belshazzar, hast not humbled thine heart, though thou knewest all this; ( even thou Belshazzar saw what ad happened to his daddy he done it any how. Just as the preachers are today they get so rich and lifted up they will then turn the church over to their sons and they also will get filthy rich.

5:23 But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified:

See what they were worshipping? Things which see not and hear not and know not and they hast thou not glorified God. The same things that are happening to day, they are worshipping stone, mortar and silver and gold of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know:

5:24 Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.

5:25 And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.

5:26 This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it.

I looked up the word numbered in the dictionary and one of the meanings was to include with or be one of a group 3 : to restrict to a small or definite number 4 : to assign a number to 5 : In other words the mark of the beast.

5:27 TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.

5:28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.

5:29 Then commanded Belshazzar, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom.

5:30 In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain.

See in that night was the same thing that God said to the rich that was in need of nothing Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

5:31 And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.


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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 10/26/2004 3:08 PM

Lying Prophets and Priests

Eze-022:022-As silver is melted in the midst of the furnace, so shall ye be melted in the midst thereof; and ye shall know that I the LORD have poured out my fury upon you.

022:023- And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

022:024- Son of man, say unto her, Thou art the land that is not cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation.

022:025 -There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.

022:026- Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

Jer.-005:030-A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;

005:031- The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Those who had been trusted with the spirtitul well-being of the nation were guilty of treachery against their God. The prophets had rejected God’s word and were prophesying only good things to come. The priests were governing the people by their own ideas rather than by the word of God. The same thing is happening in the land to day.

They made few moral standards, same as to-day, telling them it’s alright just do what you think is right for you. The thing about this the people were happy to have it that way.

The false prophets were preaching a message of false security. Instead of them warning them of a necessity of repentance they told them there was nothing to fear.

Jer.-006:014-They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.[ see they were telling them there was nothing to fear because there was going to be peace in the land. Telling them not to worry that God was a loving God and that he was not going to bring judgment on them.}

1Thess.-5:3- For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Jer.-7:3- Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place. [Amend your ways -God gives another call to the people to repent of their evil ways, however as long as they believed they were secure because of the temple and it’s ritual, as long as they go to church they think they are alright and  they saw no need to repent. God is sending out the same call today as he was in the days of Jeremiah, he is giving a chance for you to amend your ways.

007:004 Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these. { see they were trusting in these temples the same as to-day and God said they were trusting in lying words.}

Jer-7:08 Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit. { see they were trusting in these temples and the lying words of the prophets and priests and God said it was not going to profit them.

Jer-7:9-10-007:009- Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

007:010- And come and stand before me in this house,  ( showing the church ) which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?

The people were committing all kinds of sins then on the Sabbath they came to the temple and stood before God deluding themselves into thinking they were secure in God’s love for them. This same sort of spirit is in our churches today when people who rebels against God and still feels secure as long as they go to these temples and are deceived by lying words. And most of the time the preachers are commiting adultery and all these other things that was spoken in vs. 9. That is the reason that they can not preach against these things because they are doing them theirselves,

Jer-7:11- Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD. { Den of robbers- robbers often used a den to hide in and to plan their next crime. What Jeremiah is saying these people were coming to the temple to offer sacrifices that they thought would hide their sins from God. At the same time they were planning to continue in their sinful ways. The same thing is happening to-day in the churches. THE CHURCH IS A DEN OF ROBBERS. 

Jesus quoted part of this in Math-21:12-13 where he overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seat’s of them that sold doves. {doves represents the Holy Ghost so what this is saying is that they were selling the Holy Ghost and spiritual things of God.} Jesus makes it clear that God’s house was meant to be a house of prayer . A place where God’s people could meet with him in devotion, prayer, worship, singing praises.

Jesus’s greatest concern is for holiness, santifilcation within his church. He died that it should be without spot or blemish.

The church must be a place of prayer and communion with God. Christ will condenm all who use the church, the gospel or his kingdom for personal gain, glory or self promotion. It must not be profaned by making it the means of social advancement, monetary gain, entertainment, having chicken bar-b-ques, yard sales, car washes or showmanship. Whenever God’s house is so used by wordly people, it once again becomes a den of thieves, God house is a place of worhip.

I came out of a church that has just recently has spent over $30,000 on the kitchen and that is not counting the $80,000 they spent on the sanctuary. Now tell me God get’s glory out of this when they could have gave this to the poor and needy. Instead the pastor of that church got the glory. They say well look what so and so done. Once again let me say God is not in this stuff.

Jer.-8:7-Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD. { my people know not the judgment of the Lord- The people were ignorant of God’s law as same as today they are ignorant of the NT laws of God.

Their leaders so distorted the word of God and falsified it’s message that the people thought they could continue in sin and still be saved. We must beware of any ministers or leaders or anyone who teaches that those who continue in sin and rebellion against God will inherit the kingdom of God.

Jer.-8:12-Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall be cast down, saith the LORD

I also know this to be true because I know this preacher that has been in an adulterous relationship and admitted it and still preaching and the people are listening to him and he is not ashamed of what he has done and probably is still doing and yet the people want it that way.}

The people were not at ashamed. They had reached a stage of apostasy where they would never repent; all shame and remorse of sin was gone. Churches of today have reached this same stage of apostasy because they have rejected God’s word and his holiness and the pastor allows all kinds of sin in the church. I know of one instance where this woman was in an adulterous affair and the preacher ask her to leave when he also was in an adulterous affair himself. She left that church went right down the road to another church. The pastor of that church knew what had went on in her life and they elected her to be secretary of that church.

Several times God instructed Jeremiah not to pray for or intercede for these people.

Jer-7:16- Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.

Jer-14:11-14- Then said the LORD unto me, Pray not for this people for their good.

014:012 When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence. {WHEW, I hope you people see what this is saying}

014:013 Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place. { see he was saying there was no peace and they were going to see the judgments of GOD.}

014:014 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.  { See these lying prophets and priests they say they are coming in the name of Jesus and he says he did not send them. Just because they come at you in the name of Jesus and it looks good don’t mean that it is right.

The people so persisted in rebellion against the Lord and were so attached to their idols as some of you are that prayer will do no good. All who continue in sin should realize that a time will come when God refuses to hear your prayers and send the punishment their sins deserve.

In Jeremiah time when judgment came the people had to know that it was happing to them because of their many sins. They were so accustomed to doing evil that they could not change and God’s spirit was no longer dealing with them.

Jer.-13:23 asks the question- Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Jer.-14:14-16- Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

014:015 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

014:016 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them

The prophets prophesy lies- God’s people must be aware that some prophets or priests in their midst may prophesy lies and falsely claim to have a received a vision from the Lord. I am not talking about a true vision from God here as was spoken of in Joel and the book of Acts.

Mark 13:21-22- 013:021 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:{ I have had preachers tell me this is where to come boy are we having a move of God and God is pouring out his spirit over here. All the while were not lining up with the word of God.}

013:022 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. { see even these lying prophets and priests can also have signs and wonders and still not be of God.}

Believers today must be aware that within the churches today there are pastors and ministers that are of the same spirit as were these false priests and prophets in Jeriamah’s time. If anyone comes to you preaching peace and prosperity get away from them as fast as you can because certain destruction is coming.

Mat.-23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. { see these ministers will outwardly appear righteous and they will have all kind of enticing words but will have lying lips. I have seen so many of these ministers that is like that.}

Mark-7:15- Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. { see what they do they come to you acting as they are so humble and at the same time they are so full of hypocrisy and iniquity and as raving wolves.}

Is.-56:10- His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.

056:011 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. {See as long as he gets his part 10% everything is alright}

056:012 Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant { see the prosperity here that they are preaching as long as you pay your 10% everything is right with you and God. But stop paying it and you are on your way to hell.


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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 10/26/2004 3:15 PM
You can reject these messages that joie had done and the ones that I done if you like but you have chosen your own way as the message stated. This is the Word of God, not joie words or Larry's word but this is that which was spoken by God. You are not rejecting me or joie but you are rejecting the word over your own ways
 

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. I think these scriptures say it all


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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 10/26/2004 3:36 PM
Saints of God listen to what the spirit is saying unto the church. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; "Anyone who is willing to hear should listen to the Spirit and understand what the Spirit is saying to the churches
 
Do not take part in her sins, or you will be punished with her. "Come out of her, my people, so that you may have no part in her sins and in her punishments". This is not me talking but it is the spirit of God begging for you to not partake of her sins and her plagues.Listen to what the spirit is saying my people. This is a voice from heaven.
 
Revelation 18    
18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

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From: joie2Sent: 10/26/2004 7:57 PM
Thank God for your cry against this evil in our church system today, Larry.  As I read your messages, I 'heard' the voice of God.  I know God has sent us now to give out this mid-night cry. [ I intend to print out your messages and place them with mine before I give them out.]
 
My, I had not intended to say that, I was going to say this cry in the wilderness or darkness.  But God placed those words in my heart.
 
God is giving out one last call for people to learn what Babylon [Jezebel] is and COME OUT OF HER BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
 
It is almost too late right now.  Yet people are going on in their self-delusions and not listening to the cry from God.  They will utterly perish in their darkness.  When 'that' door closes, it will be just as it was in the days of Noah.  When God closed that door on the Ark, it was too late for anyone else to get into safety.
 
God is closing the door on Grace now.  Very soon destruction will be upon this world in a way they have never seen before.  This time their roots will be plucked up and destroyed.
 
Enough pure truth has gone out from this internet group to convert the world.  But they have not harkened to the voice of God.
 
Jo

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From: IsaiahSent: 10/30/2004 3:15 PM

I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded

The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe


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From: joie2Sent: 10/30/2004 11:49 PM
Yes, I believe it is fully time now.  The iniquity of the church is full.  It is time to tresh her.  It is time to open her storehouses and destroy her.  She hath sinned very bitterly against Her God.  Let no more of her remain.
 
no more shall a candle shine in her, no songs of praise, no voice of the the bride or bridegroom.
 
she hath grieviously sinned.  her time of destruction has come.
 
We have warned you all.
 
Jo

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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 8/1/2008 10:12 AM
God is closing the door on Grace now. Very soon destruction will be upon this world in a way they have never seen before. This time their roots will be plucked up and destroyed.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 8/1/2008 2:08 PM
That is so sad but true.  When it is a time that no one will turn to God, no matter how much they are shown his truth,  it is certain that we are at the time of his wrath being poured out.
 
 
Only the true saints of God have ever held it back.

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