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Dake's Studies : Who was Judas?
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From: MSN NicknameTweety134  (Original Message)Sent: 5/7/2007 3:14 AM
Since some people have compared Judas with Paul. I thought we would talk about who Judas was. All I know is that he betrayed Christ with a kiss. Paul did not betray Christ while following Christ. Maybe as we study we we see how Paul was much greater than Judas in every sense. Tweety
 

Judas, Eighteen Facts about

Eighteen Facts about Judas

1.     An apostle (Matthew 10; Mark 3:13-19)

2.     Filled with the Spirit (Matthew 10:20)

3.     A found sheep (Matthew 10:16)

4.     Ordained to preach (Mark 3:13)

5.     Ordained to heal (Mark 3:13-14)

6.     Endowed with power (Matthew 10:1-8)

7.     A successful preacher and healer (Mark 6:7-13; Luke 9:6,10)

8.     A baptizer in water (John 4:1-2)

9.     A possessor of eternal life (John 17:2 with John 17:12)

10.   A saved man and had his name in the book of life (Acts 1:20 with Psalm 69:25-28; cp. Luke 10:20 with Mark 6:13)

11.   Promised an eternal kingship (Matthew 19:28)

12.   First treasurer of the church (John 12:4-6; John 13:29)

13.   A familiar friend of Christ (Psalm 41:9). The Hebrew for "familiar" is shalowm (OT:7965), safe, favored, perfect, friend. See notes on Psalm 41:9; Psalm 69:25-28; Psalm 109:3-20; John 17:12. Would Christ have trusted an enemy?  Would God have chosen and ordained an unsaved man to preach and heal?

14.   Trusted by Christ (Psalm 41:9). Since Christ knew what was in men (John 2:25) He knew Judas could be trusted like any saved man until he falls.

15.   Not an enemy of Christ, not one that hated Him, but an equal in grace, a guide, and an acquaintance who counseled and fellowshipped with Him in God's house (Psalm 55:12-14). That this refers to the betrayal is clear from John 13:18-19; Acts 1:16-17; Psalm 41:9.

16.   A divine officer of the gospel (Psalm 109:8; Acts 1:20; Matthew 10:1-8)

17.   Part of the apostolic ministry (Acts 1:16-17,25; Matthew 10:1-20)

18.   A thief-that is, he became a thief (John 12:4-6), an adversary (John 6:70), and unclean (John 13:10-11), and "by transgression fell" like all backsliders (Acts 1:25; Mark 14:21)

 

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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 5/7/2007 3:16 AM
Well it seems here that Judas is quite a bad person. For Psalm 109 is about him.

Judas, Thirty Facts about

Thirty Facts about Judas

1.     A wicked man (the high priest) influenced him (Psalm 109:6).

2.     Satan was his right-hand helper.

3.     He will be condemned in judgment.

4.     His prayer became a sin (Psalm 109:7).

5.     His days were few (Psalm 109:8).

6.     He was a genuine apostle (Psalm 109:8; Matthew 10:1-8,16-20; Mark 6:7-13; Luke 9:1-2,10).

7.     Another took his apostleship (Psalm 109:8; Matthew 10:1-3; Acts 1:20,25).

8.     He had a wife and children (Psalm 109:9).

9.     His children became vagabonds and begged all their days (Psalm 109:10).

10.   They sought bread in desolate places.

11.   An extortioner got all that he owned, so his covetous gains were of no value to him or his family (Psalm 109:11).

12.   What his labors had accomplished strangers destroyed.

13.   No mercy was shown him (Psalm 109:12).

14.   No mercy was shown his fatherless children.

15.   His posterity was cut off (Psalm 109:13).

16.   His family name was cut off in the loss of all his children.

17.   The iniquity of his fathers (ancestors) was remembered by the Lord (Psalm 109:14).

18.   His mother's sin was not blotted out.

19.   The sins of his parents were before God continually until their memory was cut off from the earth (Psalm 109:15).

20.   He showed no mercy on Christ (Psalm 109:16).

21.   He persecuted the poor and needy man (Christ, as most commentators agree).

22.   He was the cause of the slaying of the broken in heart (Christ).

23.   He loved cursing, so he reaped it (Psalm 109:17).

24.   He despised his blessing of being saved and chosen to be an apostle, so it departed far from him (Psalm 109:17; Matthew 10:1-8,16-20; Mark 6:7-13; Acts 1:20,25).

25.   He clothed himself with cursing like a garment (Psalm 109:18).

26.   He reaped the curse in his own bowels that he poured out like water when he committed suicide (Psalm 109:18; Acts 1:18).

27.   The curse caused his bones to be broken in pieces as if oil had melted them (Psalm 109:18; Acts 1:18).

28.   The curse covered him like a garment (Psalm 109:19).

29.   The curse held him like a girdle in its grip.

30.   All this was his reward (Psalm 109:20).

 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 5/8/2007 1:24 AM
thank you for this great study, Tweety.  It is very good.  I checked several of the referrences.  They are good.
 
God said as a tree falleth so shall it lie.  As death catches a person,  so shall they be at judgment.
 
when God last speaks of a person, is how he will judge them.  If he holds sin against them at the end of their life, that is how eternity finds them.
 
See, no matter what Judas may have done in the way of good,  he ended up LOST AND DESTROYED BY God.  His entire family was destroyed same as was Cain's.
 
They follow the same pattern.
 
It is not the sins one did before they began serving God.  It is how they did after coming to God and how they end up.  If the righteous turn from their righteousness and end up in sin, they are lost.
If a sinner turns from his sinning and ends up serving God in truth, as PAUL did,  then that man is saved.
 
It is so good to know that Paul ended up serving God and giving his life for it.
 
It is sad to see the works of the devil in here fighting the very thing which JESUS himself did, when he first came to Paul.  that glorious appearing to Paul,  on the road to Demascus,  has been made to appear as rotten and evil in here.
 
I see clearly that it is coming from the voice of Satan.  Nothing but a worker of Satan could spew out the venom Denise is spewing out in here.
 
And she is not deceived,  She is deliberately fighting the truth of God.   Pretending to love and believe Jesus,  she makes the very thing Jesus did there sound like something dirty and evil.
I am actually tired of reading her lies and vomit from hell.
 
So I am deleting some of her junk out of here.  This site has always been to glorify Jesus and His word.
 
in the past, I allowed way  too much of that kind of evil to stay here and tried not to delete or ban.  But I began to see it is wrong to allow this kind of evil speaking against the Scripture and the words of the Apostles,  in pretense of loving Jesus.
Jesus said  to receive the holy men he would send us.
 
A truth child of God will do so.  When you hear this kind of ranting and raving against the Word and children of God,  know that it is a person filled with all evil and malice and works of satan.
 
I have no obligation to allow this kind of blasphemy to continue here.  It is disloyal to Jesus.
 
So I am glad to see this kind of true message.
 
JO

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 5/9/2007 1:05 AM
The following is the Words of Jesus Christ,  not written in red:
 
<NOBR>Ps 109:2</NOBR> For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
<NOBR>Ps 109:3</NOBR> They compassed me about also with words of hatred; and fought against me without a cause.
<NOBR>Ps 109:4</NOBR> For my love they are my adversaries: but I give myself unto prayer.
<NOBR>Ps 109:5</NOBR> And they have rewarded me evil for good, and hatred for my love.
<NOBR>Ps 109:6</NOBR> Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.
<NOBR>Ps 109:7</NOBR> When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.
<NOBR>Ps 109:8</NOBR> Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
<NOBR>Ps 109:9</NOBR> Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
<NOBR>Ps 109:10</NOBR> Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
<NOBR>Ps 109:11</NOBR> Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.
<NOBR>Ps 109:12</NOBR> Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.
<NOBR>Ps 109:13</NOBR> Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.
<NOBR>Ps 109:14</NOBR> Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.
<NOBR>Ps 109:15</NOBR> Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.
<NOBR>Ps 109:16</NOBR> Because that he remembered not to show mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart.
<NOBR>Ps 109:17</NOBR> As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him.
<NOBR>Ps 109:18</NOBR> As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones.
<NOBR>Ps 109:19</NOBR> Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually.
<NOBR>Ps 109:20</NOBR> Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and of them that speak evil against my soul.
<NOBR>Ps 109:21</NOBR> But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name's sake: because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me.
<NOBR>Ps 109:22</NOBR> For I am poor and needy, and my heart is wounded within me.
<NOBR>Ps 109:23</NOBR> I am gone like the shadow when it declineth: I am tossed up and down as the locust.
<NOBR>Ps 109:24</NOBR> My knees are weak through fasting; and my flesh faileth of fatness.
<NOBR>Ps 109:25</NOBR> I became also a reproach unto them: when they looked upon me they shaked their heads.
<NOBR>Ps 109:26</NOBR> Help me, O LORD my God: O save me according to thy mercy:
<NOBR>Ps 109:27</NOBR> That they may know that this is thy hand; that thou, LORD, hast done it.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 5/9/2007 1:11 AM
Those same kind of evil workers are at work in this site right now.  they use a lying tongue against us and words of hatred and fight against us without a cause.
 
Now I ask you,  which side is this person on?  It fits exactely these words spoken here by Jesus Christ,  about Judas, the betrayer.  So it is the same old evil spirit.
 
See, Judas PRETENDED to also love Jesus and pretended to be holy, and pretended to do right, and pretended to speak for Jesus,  BUT EVIL WAS IN HIS HEART ALL THE TIME.
HE PRETENDED TO LOVE JESUS,   =  BETRAYED HIM WITH A KISS.
 
To speak evil against the righteous men Jesus sent to teach the world truth, is to speak the same words of hatred against Jesus,  while PRETENDING to be upholding Jesus.  Only an enemy of Jesus could use such evil tatics.
 
such a shame.
The Word of God says to reject such as a HERETIC after the first or second admontion.
 
I have admonished this person many, many times.  So I think it is time to believe and obey the above,,,,,reject this abject as a heretic,  for they will have no part of receiving correction.
 

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