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Dake's Studies : Saul Did the Same Thing as Adam
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From: MSN NicknameTweety134  (Original Message)Sent: 11/10/2007 1:07 AM
Dear List,
I am totally convinced that Saul did the same exact thing as Adam did in the Garden of Eden.  Please read 15 Steps in Saul's Downfall below. Tweety
 

Saul's Conversion and Backsliding

Saul's Conversion and Backsliding

What could be more clear!  Saul was a partaker of the Holy Spirit and genuinely converted, born again, redeemed, and made a new creature at this time.

 

Five Spiritual Blessings of Saul:

 

1.     The Spirit of God came upon him (1 Samuel 10:6,10-13; 1 Samuel 11:6)

2.     He prophesied (1 Samuel 10:6,10-13)

3.     He was turned to another man (1 Samuel 10:6)

4.     God was with him (1 Samuel 10:7)

5.     God gave him another heart (1 Samuel 10:9)

 

Fifteen Steps in Saul's Downfall:

1.     He intruded into the priest's office (1 Samuel 13:8-10)

2.     He made excuse for his sin of breaking the commandment of God (1 Samuel 13:11-12)

3.     Again broke the commandment of God which called for the destruction of all the Amalekites (1 Samuel 15:2-12)

4.     Lied to Samuel about obeying God in destroying the Amalekites (1 Samuel 15:13-20)

5.     Laid the blame for his failure on the people (1 Samuel 15:20-21)

6.     Became exalted, not staying small in his own sight (1 Samuel 15:17)

7.     Rejected the Word of God (1 Samuel 15:23-26)

8.     Halfheartedly repented, but still blamed the people (1 Samuel 15:24-35)

9.     The Holy Spirit left him and he became possessed with a demon (1 Samuel 16:14-23;18:12)

10.   Became jealous of David and made twenty-one attempts on his life (1 Samuel 18:6-26:25)

11.   Became bitter toward his own son in his jealous rage against David (1 Samuel 20:30-34)

12.   Drove David from his own home and inheritance (1 Samuel 21:1-30:31)

13.   Sought a revelation from a witch and demons contrary to the law (1 Samuel 28:7-25; 1 Chron. 10:13-14)

14.   Swore to protect the witch contrary to the law (1 Samuel 28:10)

15.   Committed suicide (1 Samuel 31:4-5)

The same idea is expressed by Paul in 2 Cor. 5:17-18-being made a new creature.  It is reaffirmed in 1 Samuel 10:9 that says "God gave him another heart."  Men were born again by faith through grace in O.T. times just as they are now (Deut. 32:18-19; Romans 4; Galatians 3:8; Galatians 4:28-29; Hebrews 4:1).

1 Samuel 10:7

God was with Saul as long as he stayed with God; but when Saul sinned and rejected Him (1 Samuel 13:8-14; 1 Samuel 15:16-30), the Lord departed and took the Holy Spirit from him (1 Samuel 16:14; 1 Samuel 18:12).  God promises to deny, forsake, and cast off anyone who denies and forsakes Him; this is stated to Christians (2 Tim. 2:12) just as it was to O.T. saved men (Deut. 31:17; Joshua 24:20; 2 Kings 21:14; 1 Chron. 28:9; 2 Chron. 15:2).  See Backsliding.

 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 11/10/2007 1:32 AM
Very good study, Tweety.
 
That is how revelation comes when we realize that all Scripture is teaching us things about the beginning as well as the ending.
 
See, all the things which are told about in someone's life, as with Saul, are really teaching us things about Adam and Jesus.
 
So everything listed here about Saul can certainly be taken to Adam and teach us exactly what Adam did wrong.  He certainly did wish to set himself up as God.  He certainly did blame Eve for his sins.  He certainly did turn against Abel and I fully believe was instrumental in influencing Cain to kill Abel.
 
He lifted himself up as God, just as Saul thought he could offer the sacrifices which only the priest could do.
 
He set his own thoughts above what God had commanded him to do.  It is the same today.  People change the command of God to suit themselves.
God commanded us to repent, be Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.
...but most church folks say, oh no.  we do not need that. ..all we need is to say we believe.
and so they are guilty same as Saul and Adam...they change the Word of God to suit themselves.
 
Yes, Adam is the one who brought up these witchcraft spirits and sins.  By one man sin entered the world....he was Adam.
 
Jo