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Day of Lord : Day of the Lord (Jeremiah 51)
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From: Isaiah  (Original Message)Sent: 3/10/2004 9:17 PM

Jeremiah chapter 51 verse 17-

51:17 Every man is brutish by his knowledge; every founder is confounded by the graven image: ( Okay this shows the people that raised up false images and false doctrines.) for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them. ( In other words they got this false Jesus with all the myths and legends surrounding him, see this is idols with no breathe. They are vanity.

51:18 They are vanity, the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish

Remember the word of God in Psalms 31:6 and also in Jonah 2:8 that if you regard a lie in vanity that God will hate you. These lying vanities are these false doctrines. These idols, Santa Claus, Easter bunnies, and all of the other stuff is vanities. All of this is error and falsehood.

51:19 The portion of Jacob is not like them;( which means Jesus) for he is the former of all things: ( he formed us out of the dust of the ground, see that Is talking about Jesus, our creator.) and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name. ( Now this Israel means the true church of God, it is not talking about ancient nation of Israel)

51:20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms; ( Thou which means you, talking about his inheritance Israel the true church of God. Paul said he is not a Jew which is one outwardly, he is a Jew which is one inwardly. “Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war�?he is saying that we his true people are the weapons of war. That is how he is going to win this battle, with us. The same thing in Revelation chapter 11 the fire coming out of the mouth of the witnesses and devouring their enemies, they are his weapons of war. The one that they are talking about that was raptured off this earth on the one standing here doing this.

“Thou art my battle axe�?In other words the ax is laid to the root of the tree. The trees represent all these different denominations, all the different nations. John The Baptist said the axe is laid to the root of the tree, he was prophesying about down here at the end of time. And in his days the ax was laid to the root of the Old Testament nations. The Old Testament laws, the Old Testament temples. They were hewn down and Grace brought in, so now it is another time for hewning down.

Cutting down, we are going to lay the ax to the root of these denominations because they are teaching lies against the living God. They are deceiving many souls that are going to hell. So we are going by the power of God, and the fire coming out of our mouths it will be a battle axe to destroy that lying system which is a daughter of the whore. The harlot daughters of mystery Babylon.

“And with thee�?Remember now that he Is talking about his inheritance here and with thee will I break in pieces the nations. See what he is saying with you, you are the one that is going to do it. You’re the one that is going to break the nations into pieces. “And with thee will I destroy kingdoms.�?

51:21 And with thee will ( Still talking to his Israel) I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider; ( This is talking about spiritual things, not a literal chariot and not a literal rider and a literal horse)

51:22 With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young; and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the maid; ( We are not going to bring it in right here but you to need to read Ezekiel chapter 9 and you can see this group of people go out with the commission to destroy everybody that is not sighing and crying over the wickness that is being done. You tell them to kill everyone, don’t you spare no young, no old, no children, don’t you spare anyone that don’t have the mark in their forehead. Which is the mark that is put on the 144,000 in the seventh chapter of Revelation which is the pure knowledge of God. Every body that does not have that is going to be destroyed. This is the group of people right here that that is talking about. That’s when they go through the city and destroy the wicked. You have to tie all the scriptures together to see what this is talking about.

51:23 I will also break in pieces with thee the shepherd and his flock; ( Remember the shepherds led them astray, that is what this is talking about. This is talking about the preachers and their flock that has excepted their false teachings. Your flock that you have deceived and fed them polluted pastures and polluted waters. You can this in Ezekiel chapter 34 where he spoke how the shepherds marred everything and how they trampled the food with their feet and trampled and mudded the water up. They fed their selves and did not feed the sheep. They got their money but did not give them the word of God, they did not give them healing, they did not give them the gifts of the spirit, that’s what this is talking about. This is the people that is going to be cut off by the one’s with the baptism of fire on the day of the Lord.

So many people say the day of the Lord is on Sunday, that is foolish talk. They say that when John was caught up on the day of the Lord that it was Sunday. This is leading the people of God astray because they cannot come up with no better revelation than that. As much as the bible calls the day of the Lord the day of his vengeance and wrath and they say it’s Sunday. They are the one’s that the people with the baptism of fire is going to cut off.

And with thee will ( still talking to his Israel, his Zion, his church) I break in pieces the husbandman and his yoke of oxen; ( still the same thing the husbandman is the preachers with their flock and yoke of oxen with their sheep and they yoked them up and made the sheep work for them. They set the husbandman on high so that they could travel the world at their expense and live it up. While at the same time feeding them false doctrines and sending their souls to hell The true people of God are going to cut them off unless they repent.) and with thee will I break in pieces captains and rulers.

( The same thing. Your Presbytery. The one’s that set out there in headquarters and dictate to the churches what they can do and what they cannot do and what to teach and to preach. That is your captains and your rulers. But I hope you see that God is going to destroy them and this program with their lies. A little group of men that got together and said that there is not a father, we found out that Jesus was God. They are teaching a bunch of lies and the sheep are swallowing it down and they are also teaching other people the same lies that they started. God said that if you don’t believe In the father that sent him that you do not have eternal life. And the father said if you don’t believe in the son that I sent you do not have eternal Iife. You’ve got to believe both in the father and in the son. So if you believe in one of the other, God is going to cut you off. Anyone that is the denying the existence of the eternal God the spirit the father. They had better repent.

51:24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the LORD.

51:25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain ( is talking to mystery Babylon, he is talking to those four worms that was in Joel chapter 1, they were the ones that was destroying God’s people. As it had been done unto them that will also be done to mystery Babylon. The caterpillar, the locust, the canker worm, that went out and destroyed God’s people, he is going to send his people out like locust and devour mystery Babylon. Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain the ones that went around destroying everybody, Satan’s kingdom on this earth destroying everybody.



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From: IsaiahSent: 3/10/2004 9:19 PM

51:25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: ( The kingdom of Satan was the one that was destroying all this earth. Satan’s kingdom was the one that was destroying everybody saith the Lord. Satan’s kingdom is the one that does all this destruction. It is Satan’s Kingdom that gets into these rulers and makes them all want to war against each other and kill and bomb each other. It is the kingdom of Satan that gets into all these preachers that makes them all to teach false doctrine.

Sending the children out to play while Church is going on and having ballgames, soup parties, ice cream parties etc. the things of the world, when you were supposed to be giving them the things of God. If the church does not give them the things of God where do they get it? The truth of the matter is that they do not want them to get it because Satan is in the heart and has led the children astray. My heart grieves for the children of today. All they have set in front of their little eyes and mind is a bunch of trash, filth and evil, violence, and ungodly sex on television, computers and books that is evil.

51:27- Set ye up a standard in the land, ( ok that is the standard that he is talking about when he said lift up a banner and when the people of God go out and once again establish the truth. The message of the kingdom that will be preached in all the world before the end comes, that is the message of the kingdom. It is going to be lifted up, this standard, this standard of true righteous, of true holiness the pure word of God.)

Blow the trumpet among the nations ( this is the sounding of the trumpet, When the trumpet in Revelations is set to sound and come out of the six seal and ready to start and the six seal opens, the sun and the moon and the stars quits giving out any light. Under the seventh seal there was silence in heaven about the space of a half hour which means there was no message going out, nothing. As the people of God prepared for the judgment. And they change from grace to wrath, the baptism of fire.

That is why there was silence in heaven. Heaven represents God’s true spiritual people, they were not giving out anything, no truth whatsoever, so that is why that there was silent in heaven for about the space of half an hour. Then the time of the trumpet started. In this time of silence he gives the command to his people to set up a standard and to blow the trumpet to start the wrath of the Lamb on this earth. You can read it in Revelation, you can see how all this fits in together.

“Blow the trumpet among the nations�? What did he say would be the result from this?

“Prepare the nations against her,�?(Mystery Babylon) ( Now the nations referred to the people of God coming together) call together against her (Mystery Babylon) “the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz;�?( These are mysterious symbols representing the people of God) “appoint a captain against her;�?( In other words some leader that is going to be against mystery Babylon. This angel in the spirit that come down and binds Satan and cast him into the bottomless pit. Opens the bottomless pit and out of it comes the smoke and the locusts that is where the Saints of God come out of that smoke. They come out of all the mess that is in mystery Babylon. Mystery Babylon is the church that is bottomless because they have no foundation to stand on.)

�?Cause the horses to come up as the rough caterpillers.�?(The horses are the ones that you see in Joel chapter 2 , God’s people that go out in the judgment ministry. Also read Revelation under the 5th trumpet where the locusts go out, he did not say they were Locusts that they were as Locusts, running to and fro as the Locusts (Isaiah 33:4) Here is the same symbol remember they were the locust same as caterpillars. He said cause the horses ( God’s people, Joel’s army) to come up as the rough caterpillars, to come up like them, in other words to destroy them. Eating a way their tree.

You’re going to be doing what they did, when they cease to deal treacherously they will be dealt treacherously against, when they cease to spoil they will be spoil, this is what this is talking about. When they cease to devour they will be devoured, because God made them to cease. When he anointed his second witness with the baptism of fire one of the Prophets said all the nations would be astonished at all of their might’s.

They are going to be surprised and be caught unexpected because right now everybody’s talking against God and talking against the Saints saying there is no power, there is nothing to it but when they see those with the baptismal fire come forth with the power that nobody can do anything with. All we do is speak the word and the people of Satan will be dead. They are going to be caught by surprise. They are going to run and hide like a woman hiding somewhere. That is all in the Scriptures.

51:29 - And the land shall tremble and sorrow: for every purpose of the LORD shall be performed against Babylon, to make the land of Babylon a desolation without an inhabitant.

This is where Jesus said that he would destroy all the sinners off the earth. How much more do we need?


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From: IsaiahSent: 3/10/2004 9:23 PM

Ezekiel 28 - This is where he is talking to Satan

28:7-- Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. ( Now these strangers are these witness, because they are strangers to Satan. “The terrible of the nations�?these are still the witnesses. You would think that the terrible of the nations were the wicked, but no it is where we turn unto them and do to them what they have done unto us. God said do unto her and she has done to you and also double what she had done. The command to God’s people is to do to mystery Babylon what they have done. Return unto her double all of her evil works that she had done. The terrible on the nations are the ones that go forth with the spirit of fire coming out of their mouths to devour the enemy.

“And they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.�?

28:8 --They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas. ( Remember in Revelations that an angel come down from heaven and bound them up and cast them into the bottomless pit, this is what this Is talking about. The Angel is working in an invisible world but the visible world will be performed by us. The ones�?with the baptism of fire. See the Angels put the ministry into our heart and mouth and our mind and they stand there is the invisible world and fight and protect us but on the visible surface the ones with the baptism of fire will be the ones that will be doing it. It always works that way.

They bring Satan, in other words his whole kingdom, it is not talking about just one being but the whole kingdom of Satan. “They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths�?see deaths here are plural, meaning more than 1, a lots of people. It is not just one person, when you bound Satan and cast him into a bottomless pit, it is his entire kingdom. “Thou ( talking to Satan) shalt die the deaths�?D E A T H S plural of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.�?/FONT>

28:9 - Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee. ( “Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee�?meaning the witness of God. Are you going to keep saying that I am God, Satan was always saying that he was God but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee. See these people say they are God but you see that have a false Jesus and say this is God, but it is not the Jesus of the scriptures, it is a Jesus that the Catholic Church made up. All the myths and the legends that they put out by him.

Okay, let’s go to the book of Micah-4:10-13

This is talking to the church of God when she was in travail to bring forth the manchild at the end of time in Revelation chapter 12.

4:10 - Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.

“Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion�?(Zion being the church of God)

�?like a woman in travail�?(meaning when the true church is being persecuted) �?for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, ( the two women in the field Zion and Babylon, here they are in the field together) “and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered;�?( See they were in Babylon all this time. Dwelling down here all this time on Earth in the midst of the people of Satan Kingdom where we are right now. But we are going to be delivered as the manchild, they cannot stop us for bringing forth Christ. Christ in you the hope of glory.

“there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies. (see out of that Babylon, come out of her my people that you be not partakers of her sins. See how this is tied together in such a beautiful way

4:11- Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.

�?Now also many nations are gathered against thee( where all these nations are together at the end of time to fight against the church) �?Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.�?( see this Is happening now even in America, this spirit is growing by leaps and bounds to hate the true people of God. To hate Jesus, to hate the truth of the word. So they are going to be joined with the rest of the world, right now Saints of God are being persecuted and tortured and killed all over the world. In other countries they are being killed and tortured, horrible things are happening. And it is going to happen here in America, the spirit in rising slowly to hate and destroy Gods�?true people.

At the end of time the twin brother Jacob and Esau, right here in this nation we have Jacob and Esau together where these prophecies fit. You read in Obadiah and Habakkuk and some of the other books where they were talking about Jacob and Esau they were not talking about them as an individual that lived a long time ago, they were dead and in the grave before these prophets lived. They are talking about twin brothers that came out of the same mother and daddy. I hope you see that it is the true church of God and the false church. The people of God and the people of Satan, Jacob and Esau.

That is why he said Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD. The things of Esau would be searched out and destroyed. Right here now in America Jacob and Esau are struggling with each other. The Jacobites, the true people of God and Esau ( Edomites) the people of Satan. It is all through God‘s word.

They all gather together against the people of God saying let her be defiled, let our eye look upon Zion. But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor. ( He is going to gather them like you go out and gather a bunch of wheat and throw it into the floor and thread it.

Now vs. 13 a command to the people of God with the baptism of fire.

4:13- Arise ( See they are going to get up with the power of God, a new anointing from power on high. I shall anoint my two witnesses with power from on high. The first witness with the baptism of the Holy Ghost, the second witness with the Baptism of Fire. Power to do the work on the Lord. First witness came to preach the Word, to open the blind eyes, to heal the sick, raise the dead, to set the captives free. But he did not say for them to bring judgment. The second witness is the ones that bring the judgment ministry. That is the only commission that they are to do is to bring the vengeance of God on the people of Satan.

4:13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron ( Remember the rod of iron, here it is.) and I will make thy hoofs brass; ( brass means judgment) and thou ( meaning you meaning my people) shalt beat in pieces many people:( you are going to destroy the Babylonian people) and I will consecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.( in other words what we do and what we gained will be dedicated to the living God.)


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