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p.s. I would not even bother to answer to this mess if bill were not perverting the Scriptures here, trying to make me look like an evil liar. I say he and those other two false teachers are the liars. I certainly will not stoop to answer to those two wicked folks anymore. I will not give them anymore occasion, by me, to continue to blaspheme the things of God and I will certainly not respond to the filthy mouth of that one sky posted for. No Christian thinks in such an ungodly manner. So it proves, to ME, that neither of those two liars belong to the Holy God.

~~ Being Born Again ~~

Well, let’s just see. The Word of God said to prove all things and hold fast to that which is GOOD. That which is GOOD is that which is TRULY taught in Scripture, not what some man pretends to be there. So, let’s just see what `Peter really does say about this ‘begotten�?

Lets just see what verse 23 REALLY does say, not what some smart mouthed man perverts it into ‘saying�? 1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Now, see. It did NOT say, “be born again�? It said B E I N G, BEING BORN AGAIN. It is an ONGOING process, as I have always taught. No one is ‘born again�?while still in MORTAL FLESH. We have the ‘earnest�?OF OUR INHERITANCE. Not the very BORN AGAIN BODY, yet.

So, I find that bill perverts the word, to try and prove his false teachings. He also goes to a carnal man’s words, to try to prove a false doctrine, called, Kenosis. It is totally FOREIGN to Scripture, so he must point people to DAKE, not GOD.

There is not one single verse of Scripture saying that Jesus was God in heaven, before he , somehow, became a tiny cell inside a woman’s womb, and emptied himself of his ‘god knowledge and power�? that is a doctrine of SATAN.

And this satanic spirit is why you hate the gift of tongues.

And that is why you hate me.

So let’s get back to the first part of 1Peter and show more of how bill perverts the Word of God:

1pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

1pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

1pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

[according to his mercy he hath BEGOTTEN US AGAIN unto a lively HOPE, by the RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST FROM THE DEAD.

Did not say he begot us as sons of God here. Said begot us to a lively HOPE. (Hope that is seen, is not HOPE.) And that was only by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was only begotten by that resurrection. Romans 11-4.]

1pe 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, [Now this plainly, (to any who can read with a clear mind; not clouded with their own false notions)--said that the inheritance which we were begotten TO, is incorruptible, and undefiled, and is RESERVED IN HEAVEN FOR YOU. So it PROVES what I said, that we are not BEGOTTEN ALREADY, WHILE IN THIS CORRUPITABLE BODY. Now if you can say that you are not in a corruptible body right now, and that it is not defiled in any kind of way, and you need nothing else from God, and that you already got to Heaven, to pick up that prize, then perhaps YOU are different from the rest of us�?who still have that incorruptible body reserved in Heaven for us!!] This is how Satan’s missionaries pervert the scriptures, trying to prove their false doctrine. But see, Scripture always shows the truth, and does NOT say one thing here, and something different over there.

1pe 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. [Here again it is clearly revealed that this inheritance, which we were begotten to, is kept by the power of God UNTO salvation READY TO BE REVEALED IN THE LAST TIME. It is not in our possession right now. It is reserved in Heaven, waiting to be revealed in the last time. Now go prove something different, QUOTING THIS SCRIPTURE RIGHTLY. It cannot be done. Nothing here said that we ARE ALREADY, NOW, BEGOTTEN OR BORN AGAIN, YET. It is lies of the devil. We will not be born again until we come out of that grave in a GLORIFIED BODY, WHICH IS THIS INHERITANCE, TO WHICH WE ARE BEGOTTEN, RESERVED IN HEAVEN FOR US, ] (See, you can twist Scripture and prove to the un-enlightened, anything.)

1pe 1:6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:

[This clearly said that now, for a season, we may be in heaviness. So we are not in that glorified body, yet. That glorified body is the NEW BIRTH. It is the eternal inheritance, reserved in Heaven for us. That is when we will be begotten, same as with Jesus. If he was not begotten before his resurrection, and Acts 13 proves, this, along with Rom. 11-4, what makes you any different? Are you better than Jesus?]

1pe 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

[Now that really puts is in good perspective. The end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. It will come at the END of your faith; not at the beginning or the middle. You do greatly ERR, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God.] He that endureth unto the END, shall be saved, not he who STARTS.

1pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

[The GLORY FOLLOWED the sufferings of Christ. The glory did not go before that time. When we beheld his glory, was after or at his resurrection…AFTER HIS SUFFERINGS. Now call this a lie, as you do other Scriptures, believing some man’s lies, instead.]

1pe 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

[Hope to the END for the grace that is to be BROUGHT (future) to you AT THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST. So our hope will be fulfilled at the END, not at the beginning of our faith.]

1pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

BEING BORN AGAIN. BEING BORN AGAIN. It is still not complete, no matter how many falsely claim that they are now born again, yet still headed to that grave; death. After we are BORN AGAIN, THERE WILL BE NO DEATH UNTO US OR IN US.

By: Jo Smith ~~ Sept. 29, 2008

Jesus said when you call someone a fool, you are in danger of hell fire. So take heed. You are the one who is deluded and under deception and know nothing.

You do lie. I have NEVER deleted one single post because it proved me to be wrong. No one can take one single verse of Scripture and prove one thing I teach to be wrong, because I say exactly what the Scripture says, without adding it or taking away from it.

You cannot and do not do this. You change it, altar it and take away from it. The you back out of what you have already said, when it is shown to you how foolish it really is.

You stated, several times, that Jesus was the originator of sin, that Jesus was the first Adam. But when I pointed out to you the foolishess of such a thing, you denied having said it. So it proves that you do not know what to believe. You once denied that Jesus was God. Now you claim he is and always was God.

You simply do not know.You put yourself in danger of hell fire by calling me a fool. This is not the first time you have made this same mistake, either.

You do not know that being a mortal person DOES NOT MEAN THAT ONE HAS TO BE CARNAL MINDED.

In this error, you also deny Jesus of being made like unto us and tempted in all pointes like as us, because he was one of us = human, mortal.

Bill made the error of saying that God had to come to die for us. That is not taught in scripture at all. He made it up. God cannot die, and God has no mother or beginning or ending of days. Jesus had all of this. You know nothing.

If he had not been a mortal being, he could not have died, for that is what being mortal means.

You people always jump to some made up 'hebrew, or greek' meaning of words to try to back up your false doctrines. It matters NOT WHAT SOME DICTIONARY says any word means, IT IF IS NOT TRUE TO THE WORD OF GOD, IT IS FALSE.

Sheep means a four legged animal, if you don't believe it, look it up. any dictionary will do, strongs, or any other. they will all say a sheep is a four legged animal.

But that is not what God meant when he used that word. see? wheat, means a natural grain, but that is not what God meant when he used that word. Sea, means the waters of the earth, but that is not what God meant by that word. Fish, means creatures which swim around in water, but that is not what God meant by that word.

River, means a running body of water, but that is not what God was speaking about. You can jump to all the so-called dictionary meansing from now on... IT DOES NOT EXPLAIN SCRIPTURE.

Thunder is the loud sounds made by clouds bumping together. But in Scripture it is the voice of God. So much for your 'proof'.

No, I am not carnal minded. Yes, I am still in a mortal body. I do have a spiritual mind, and God has given me the true Holy Ghost, exactly as described in his Word. Yes, God does teach me, pure revelation of his word, which no man can prove to be wrong.

God said in several different scriptures, that he beget his son on the day Jesus rose from the dead. You cannot get to this simple fact. So it throws you off elsewhere.

You cannot accept that Jesus was a mortal man, so it throws you off everywhere else.

So you all, the entire church world, must MAKE UP DOCTRINES to try to make it fit their delusions. You are no exception.

You twist Scripture out of what it is really saying. It does NOT say that Jesus was God, or that Jesus was the creator.

It does not say that Jesus always was God and always will be. Show me that verse. any of you. Show me that Jesus existed before his birth. I want to read one verse saying that.

Show me where even one person, in Scripture, every said, I believe that Jesus is God. where is it? and if none of them believed it, why do you?

quote me the verse. quote me Kenosis. quote me trinity. See, NOne of these things are in scripture, yet millions proclaim it and say those of us who deny these false teachings are devils, and fools.

I know you cannot receive any truth, neither you nor bill. But here it is anyway:

<NOBR>Ho 13:13</NOBR>	The sorrows of a travailing woman shall come upon him: he is an unwise son; for he should not stay long in the place of the breaking forth of children.
<NOBR>Ho 13:14</NOBR>	I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

Now read that, slowly. the...sorrows...of ...a.. TRAVAILING ....WOMAN... SHALL.....COME...UPON......(HER?)....DID IT SAY HER? NOPE.

READ IT AGAIN. THE SORROWS OF A TRAVAILING WOMAN, (MEANS GIVING CHILDBIRTH)...SHALL COME UPON ....HIM. HIM. A MALE. IN CHILDBIRTH.

...FOR HE... SHOULD not stay long in the place of the breaking forth of children.........

what is breaking forth of children, mean? It means being born.....being born. being born.

He should NOT stay long in that place. so.....what is that place? where they break forth FROM?

ready?

I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction:

Now did he change subjects in this reading? Of course not. He shows what the place of the breaking forth of children is..the place of BIRTHING.....where was it?

COMING OUT OF THAT GRAVE....being raised from the dead.

when he said, I will ranson them from the power of the grave.....he was showing them breaking forth, being born. They were coming out of 'mother earth'.

what is REDEMPTION? WHERE IS HE REDEEMING THEM FROM? FROM DEATH. Jesus was the FIRSTBORN , FROM THE DEAD. BORN FROM THE DEAD. BORN ...FROM THE DEAD....

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. (you never read this before? huh?)

does this fit all other Scripture? Of course it does.

Now watch this, carefully:

Ro 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Adoption... whereby, (by this, adoption) we cry Abba, Father. By this adoption, we become of his children.

so what is this adoption?

(when you do not know the truth, you read, but your understanding is not fruitful, because you 'translate' it into a lie, to suit your false understanding)

Ro 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Ro 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Ro 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Ro 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Ro 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Ro 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

Ro 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

Ro 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

You have read this, but did not see what it is really saying.

verse 19---the creature, (our earthly selves) WAITS for the manifestation of the SONS OF GOD.

Why are we waiting for this, if we are already BORN AGAIN? think. stop trying to put me down. learn some truth, for your own sakes. I am not unteachable. God teaches me every single day.

verse 21....the CREATURE, (us) itself, Our body, WILL BE DELIVERED from the BONDAGE of corruption. Now don't go trying to say you are still in a body of corruption.

I have known others who also made this absurd claim. but guess what? they are NOW IN THEIR GRAVES, WAITING FOR THAT ADOPTION. waiting for that deliverance, for that breaking forth of children, from the grave.

You will also.

v23--And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Now Paul wrote this, and he certainly had more of God than we do. I say we, to keep from saying, you.

We, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, means we have an earnest, or the Holy ghost, we groan, waiting FOR THE ADOPTION.......WHAT IS THAT? THE REDEMPTION (GET THAT) REDEMPTION OF OUR BODY.

You are not born again, until this takes place. we have the Spirit within ourselves, giving us a spiritual mind,,,,,,but we are still in a corrupitable and mortal body. So that new birth gives us that glorified body, deliverance from this bondage of CORRUPTION. After we are born again, death has no more dominion over us. we will never see death again. same as Jesus.

Ro 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

Ro 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

We are saved by HOPE. what? Hope. go back to 1Pet. 23... he begot us to a lively HOPE....

but hope that is already seen is not hope....why doth a man hope for what he already sees? So if you already had that new birth, you would not be WAITING FOR IT.

So, we are waiting for it. We are hoping for it. We were begotten to this LIVELY HOPE, by the resurrection of Jesus, for if he rose, we have the same promise, to come out of that grave and be delivered into the glorious liberty of the CHILDREN OF GOD.

So, I am not the fool you think!

And there is plenty more proof, but MY fingers are not able to type it tonight.

It would do not good anyway, for you cannot hear. You have not a spiritual mind, to hear with.

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