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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 12/7/2006 4:25 PM
<NOBR>Ro 11:16</NOBR> For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
<NOBR>Ro 11:17</NOBR> And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
<NOBR>Ro 11:18</NOBR> Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
<NOBR>Ro 11:19</NOBR> Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
<NOBR>Ro 11:20</NOBR> Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
<NOBR>Ro 11:21</NOBR> For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
<NOBR>Ro 11:22</NOBR> Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Ro 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
Ro 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

Jesus said  I am the ROOT and offspring of David.  Jesus said  I am the VINE.  Ye are the BRANCHES.

He was speaking to his true CHURCH, not that old nation of Israel.  He was speaking to the Grace or Faith people, not the people of law.

Now notice that he said some of the first branches were broken off.  So what is that?  It is speaking of those who first came into the Church by grace, but then TURNED  and went away BACKWARDS to Law.  And many of that early church did just that, as those Jews persuaded them that they must be circumcised and KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES.

This was the battle of that early ministry, trying to keep them from falling backwards to law.

So when they did,  Paul had warned, Jesus is of no effect to you who go back to law.  You  are doing despite to the blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Grace, the Holy Ghost.

So they were broken off of this OLIVE TREE, of which Jesus is the root.  This olive tree is not that old law nation of Israel.  But the first branches on this olive tree were all Jews.  But it is not from the OT.  It was from the Day of Pentecost.

So these 'natural' or original branches were broken off, because of their unbelief.  They went back to LAW, of which is no faith.  The Word clearly teaches that the law is not of faith.

So here Paul is warning those Gentiles, who by now had been grafted into this good Olive Tree, the true CHURCH OF GOD.

He warned them that if they follow those who went back to law,  they too will be broken off.

Yes, Jesus told old Jerusalem,  Behold your house is left unto you DESOLATE.  It was that LAW.  Read Lamentations.

That was the CURSED  FIG  TREE.

Now notice where this Olive Tree appears again:

Re 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Re 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.  (A candlestick is a Church)...
Re 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
Re 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.


These two witnesses, or that first pure Church of the day of Pentecost, and the one which will come after the mixed up seven, anointed with the power from on High by the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, are these two Olive Trees.

It is not that old law nation at all.  It is the only two pure churches to ever exist. That first one was the church in the day Of Peter and Paul.  The last one is yet to appear.  It will come up after that seventh one has run her full course.

These are the Olive Tree.

Jas 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear OLIVE berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.


Here James is telling us that the law, or fig tree, cannot bear OLIVES, or the true fruits of the  Spirit to God.  The Vine of Jesus cannot bear figs, or law.

May God open your eyes to this great and precious TRUTH.

By: Jo Smith

Dec.7, 2006



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 Message 2 of 12 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:30 AM
[This is only a little something I am saving from another thread, which I intend to delete:]
 
The Word of God is eternal and ever living.  This means that just the 'surface' words, or stories, are only a means of conveying to us the real depth of God's Word and his meaning to us.
 
If a person never gets below the 'surface' and down into the deep, or the true hidden SPIRITUAL meanings of Scripture, then it is nothing more to that person, than just that,  a mere history of some people who lived long ago.
 
Therefore, it has no meaning for us today.  But that is simply NOT THE CASE WITH ANY SCRIPTURE.
 
But only the Holy Ghost can give to each of us a SPIRITUAL mind, with which to really understand the spiritual truths of the Word of God, at any point.
 
Everything in Scripture really centers around the life of Jesus Christ,  his birth, death, and resurrection.  Then it also centers around the other most important time on all the world,  THE DAY OF PENTECOST.
 
By this I mean the day the Holy Ghost came into the hearts of the disciples of Jesus Christ.
 
That is the day all the RE-GATHERING of the promised Israel, or Judah, was fulfilled.  That is the Day He regathered them all into one house, or one body,  the Christ, or the true Church of God.
 
Jesus took of both, the Jews and the Gentiles and made of them, together,  ONE NEW MAN,  thus making PEACE.
 
By Jesus Christ we BOTH,  Jews and Gentiles, have access to the Father.
 
The split in the nation of Israel is really just a pattern to show the world what really happened in the world before the flood.
God said that everything which could be known, was revealed in those 12 tribes of Israel.
 
There was an Israel long before Jacob lived.  This Israel is the true Son of God.  they are now the Son of God.  This is they who come to God by Jesus Christ, via the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
 
There is no other Israel, and there is no other way to God.  We who know this truth are not afraid to spell God as God, or Jesus Christ as Jesus Christ.
 
 
The churches is Revelation follow this very same pattern.  And it will continue until Jesus Christ returns to this earth and does away with all the rebels and set up his Kingdom on this Earth, which will then be inhabited only by Christians.

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 Message 3 of 12 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:32 AM
the new covenant Jesus placed into our hearts is the Grace covenant. without this Grace Covenant, no one,  Jew or Gentile, servant, or freeman, Barbarian or whatever exists, will have salvation.
 
I have read those Books many, many times.  Have you?  Study them all and pray and ask God to open your spiritual eyes.
 
Do you have eyes to see?  or ears to hear?  what the SPIRIT says to his Church.?  Hope so.
 
See, all the promises were fulfilled in Christ Jesus.  they were all fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost, as all those who first received salvation, or the Holy Ghost, were JEWS.
 
The next 3,000 to receive this blessing were also JEWS.
The next 5,000 to receive it were JEWS.  And of course there were many, many more.  Thus it was fulfilled that they would EAT the flesh of their SONS AND THEIR DAUGHTERS.  Members of Israel, from all nations, were baptized into Christ soon after the HOly Ghost fell in the upper room.
 
This flesh was the MESSAGE those sons and daughters of Israel gave to this world,,,,,,grace.
 
Then the Gentiles began receiving this great salvation, the VERY SAME AS THE JEWS.   Acts 10,
 
Now that is good reading. Acts 2 and 20.  Read it.
 
Thus the New Covenant was written in their hearts.  Thus the Christains became the Royal priesthood, the Royal People of God.
 
Everyone, of any nation, of all nations,  must come in this same way.  There  is no other way.
 
Will you repent and be converted to Christ Jesus?  to the New Covenant of Grace?  Without this, no person on earth will obtain salvation, no matter what race or nation they are of.
 
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:33 AM
 
Jesus, God's Son, was GIVEN   ALL  POWER AND ALL AUTHORITY in heaven and earth,  after his resurrection,....and anointed to sit upon the throne of God.  Thus he was granted to rule as God.  He is now our God.
He must be your God, or there is no salvation for you.......this is by the decree of his God, the Father.
 
You cannot go to the Father, EXCEPT through his Son, Jesus.  So bow the knee to Jesus and confess that he is Lord to the glory of the Father....else the Father will deny you and cast you into hell fire.
 
Hope you can 'hear'.  Eat the flesh which is give to you and sanctified by the Word of God.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:35 AM
If you knew the truth, and were not caught up in this false 'JEW WORSHIP', you could read the truth in God's word, and see that there is NO DIFFERENCE IN ANY PEOPLE'S OF THE WORLD SINCE CHRIST.
 
God only used that certain family, Jacobs family, to show the world what took place in the world before ours.  God's chosen people are the people of FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST, WHICH YOU SHOW NOT TO HAVE.
 
I believe God's word, not yours.  The things I teach are the TRUTH, weather you like it or not.  And not because I say it,  but because I say what the Word of God says.
 
The true JEWS are the people of faith, not where they came from in the flesh.  You are strictly carnal, and fleshly, because you judge from the flesh and not from the Spirit.
 
In CHRIST there is NEITHER Jew nor Greek, neither male nor female, neither bond nor free, but we are ALL ONE IN CHRIST.
 
Paul stated over and over that there is NO DIFFERENCE IN ANYONE. 

Ro 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

Ro 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Don't pride yourself on the fact that you have listened to the 'jew worshippers' and been led astray from FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST, WHICH IS OUR ONE AND ONLY HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE.

Get this!   !   I most certainly DO know the history of the tribes of Israel.  I most certainly do know that they split into two different kingdoms.  I most certainly do know that ten tribes made up the Northern kingdom, and that Judah and Benjamin made up the Southern kingdom.

BUT  I  KNOW  THE  IMPORTANT  TRUTH  THAT  IT MATTERS  NOT  ONE  TINY  BIT!

It means nothing to God or to anyone else.  They are NO DIFFERENT IN THIS WORLD THAN Georgia, South Carolina, North Caroline,  Europe, South America, or anyone else.

We are ALL THE SAME TO GOD.

He chose the Gentiles for his people.  We are his People.  We are the Royal Priesthood, and there will never be another.

You are listening to Jewish fables and are being cheated and deceived by this evil!  Yes.  It is evil to try to separate what Jesus Christ died to bring into ONE NEW MAN, thus making peace.

Why do you hate this righteous work?  Why do you insist in going back to the flesh, and that old covenant, which God hated and destroyed?  why do you try to discredit God's true People, the People of FAITH?

And do not try to kid me.  I happen to read God's word very much.  I happen to know that Judah did worse than Israel. God said so in Ezekiel.  And I also know that Judah also went into captivity long Before Jesus Christ was born.

They went into captivity because of their rebellion and idol worship, just as the ten tribe did.

 

But it makes not one bit of difference to anyone today.  They are no more to God than anyone other soul in this world.  They must come in through Jesus Christ, via the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, being water baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins,  just as everyone else has to do to ever be part of the true Family of God.

 

There is no other way.  They must be saved exactly as any other people on this earth.  and they will never be a nation anymore, anymore than any other carnal, natural people are a nation.  God is not after that anymore.  He is after one thing ONLY......A PEOPLE SERVING HIM BY FAITH,   WHICH THOSE TRIBES OF JACOB NEVER HAD OR DID.

So there you have the real truth.  not some jewish fable.

 

Jo


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:36 AM

The Covenant, in Christ Jesus, sets us all FREE.

When we are FREE, WE ARE ALL THE SAME.  WE ARE ALL ONE.   That is the entire plan of God, to bring us all into ONE NEW MAN.  This new man is the kingdom of Christ and His True CHURCH.

It is not the carnal churches around us.  They are carnal and into jew worship, as you are.  Those 'jews' have deceived the world into worshipping them, for they are decendants of Adam, who lifted himself up as God and demanded to be worshipped, for which God cast him out of the Garden.

Re 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Now the above verse states that Jesus overcame and set down in his father's throne.  It is not the throne of Jesus.  His throne is on earth, the throne of David.

Re 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

There is another verse declaring that the Lamb in is the MIDST of the throne.

Re 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Re 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Here it shows that Jesus, the man child, was caught up unto God and to HIS throne.

It is not a carnal seat.  It is a place of rulership or authority. Jesus was given all authority to rule as God, by God himself.  Heb. one.

****

For your knowledge:  there is not such thing as RAPTURE.  It is a made up LIE.  Why do you not know this?  Do you really study the Word of God to find truth?

I happen to know that Jesus Christ is a man.  I happen to know that he  is our God, only because God set him so.  I do not resist the command of God, to worship his Son.

You best not try this either, if you care for your soul.  God is not at all pleased with those who set themselves up above God, to try to tell God that he cannot do as he pleases,  which is to set his Son on his own throne, to rule as God, and to receive worship as God.

I do worship Jesus Christ, and his Holy Father.  No one will have eternal life who resists this command of God.

No matter how much you dote on natural folks, called Jews, or Israelites, it will do you no good.  We are the Israel of God.  Why slander me?  I am a CHILD OF GOD, A TRUE ISRAELITE.

I obey God and worship his Son, Jesus Christ.  I do not have to believe that Jesus was God to worship him.  I know that he is a man.  But I also know that he is now our God.

That does not do away with his God, and his Father.  I am not that foolish.

If God set Jesus Christ as equal to himself, because of his ONENESS, then why do you try to order God to not say this?  Why are you resisting God's way, and that of all being ONE AS THEY ARE ONE.

Read John 17.

If God decreed that We are all ONE, as he and Jesus are ONE, why are you fighting this glory?


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:38 AM
I said, the people of FAITH, now matter where they came from in the flesh,  ARE THE ISRAEL OF GOD.
 
It is not in the flesh.  Sure I said he chose the Gentiles for his people, because God himself said this.  but he chose anyone who will come into Christ by the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, which is the only FAITH there is.
 
Again, I say, stop slandering me.  I am not trying to insult you.  I am trying to help you see some REAL TRUTH.  I fully understand myself.  What do you mean by such a derogatory statement?
 
Do you not know that Isreal split into two different kingdoms long before God scattered them?
 
ALL,  GET THIS,  ALL human beings are adopted children of God, if they come to God by his chosen plan of salvation.
 
The so-called 'jews' are no more natural children of God than any other people.  They must also be adopted, if they belong to God.
The Everlasting Covenant is the Covenant of Grace, which is to the entire world.  Jesus did not exclude anyone from salvation.  It is offered to everyone.
 
Only that Law Covenant, of death, of condemnation, (11Cor. 3)..  was only to that jewish or israelite nation.
 
Grace , or life, is offered to the entire world, like it or not.
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:38 AM
study these verses carefully.  This is proof that God set aside that nation of Israelites, as such, and said they were NOT his people.  I will prove also where he said that those who were not his people, at that time,  now are the people of God, the true Israelites, who are the Christains, no matter what natural people they come from.
 

Ho 1:9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.

Ho 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

Ho 1:11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

Ho 2:23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

Read the above:  I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

Now that makes it very clear that God put away those who were first considered to be his people, the Israelites, and chose those who had not been his people, to now be his people.

He has never, and will never change this!  Praise Our God forevermore.


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 Message 9 of 12 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:39 AM
 
Here is the NT proof of the above:
 
<NOBR>Ro 9:23</NOBR> And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
<NOBR>Ro 9:24</NOBR> Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
<NOBR>Ro 9:25</NOBR> As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
<NOBR>Ro 9:26</NOBR> And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
<NOBR>Ro 9:27</NOBR> Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
<NOBR>Ro 9:28</NOBR> For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
<NOBR>Ro 9:29</NOBR> And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
<NOBR>Ro 9:30</NOBR> What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
<NOBR>Ro 9:31</NOBR> But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
<NOBR>Ro 9:32</NOBR>

Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

 

This clearly shows that old Israel fell because they were not of faith, but of the works of the law. They stumbled at the stumblingstone, Jesus Christ.
 
God chose for his own people those who did NOT stumble at the precious Corner Stone, Jesus Christ.
 
More proof:

1pe 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

1pe 2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

1pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

1pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

1pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

1pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

1pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

1pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

1pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Verse ten proves this is speaking to those Hoseah spoke of,  those who had not obtained mercy and were not a people in the time past.  It is the Gentiles.

These are now the chosen people of God and the Royal Priesthood.

The old Levitical priesthood is not in the works of God today.  The Royal priests are the true Christians, who did NOT stumble at the precious Corner Stone, which was a stumbling stone to those self-righteous jews.

Now reject this much proof in favor of your jewish fables if you wish.  it will cost you your own soul.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:40 AM
From: Isaiah Sent: 2/13/2008 8:13 AM
God is not sitting down upon some natural 'throne' chair. [taken from what freeborn posted above.]

this is the Adam spirit and it is happening to-day. It is happening in the so called churches, all of them. Go in one and see where the pastors are sitting. they sat themselves as God sitting in their throne chair. sitting above every body and ruling over them. this is the same as Adam did.

Eze. 28: 2Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

These pastors have set themselves up as God sitting on his throne. They sit in special chairs, and I have saw these


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 Message 11 of 12 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:42 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 2/15/2008 1:05 PM
Why are you falsly accusing me of teaching that Jesus is God?  that he is of a dual nature?  You cannot find that in all the thousands of true messages I have written.  You do not read what I write, so you falsly throw me into a pile of other deceived folks.
 
These people, spoken of below, were JEWS there in JERUSALEM.  Here is the truth Jesus told about them:
 

Mt 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: (this was the highest leaders of jews; jerusalem jews)

Mt 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Mt 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Mt 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

Mt 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Mt 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mt 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

Mt 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. (WHO?  JERUSALEM PRIESTS, AND SCRIBES)NATURAL CHILDREN OF Abraham, Issac and Jacob.)

Mt 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Mt 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

Mt 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

Mt 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. (THOSE JEWS ARE THE MURDERS OF ALL RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE)

Mt 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. (their fathers were the olden jews or israelites)  so where are you?

Mt 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?( this was Jesus identifying those jerusalem jews and priests as being serpents and vipers.  why?  seed of their father, Adam, the original serpent.  He pronounced these JEWS TO HELL FIRE.  SO NOW WHAT?  BET YOU WILL NOT EVER DARE READ THIS POST.)

Mt 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: (HERE JESUS told those jerusalem jews and priests that they will persecute oll righteous men he send to them.  i prove what i teach with scripture.)

Mt 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.  (this identifies those jerusalem jews as being guilty of ALL THE RIGTHEOUS BLOOD SHED ON EARTH.  THIS TRUTH IS WHAT PEOPLE HATE IN ME AND CALL ME ANTI-SEMETISM ABOUT.  BECAUSE I AM NOT AFRAID THE TEACH THIS TRUTH WHICH JESUS HIMSELF TAUGHT.  SO NOW SNEER ON.)

Mt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. (those jews in jerusalem)

Mt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (they, those JEWS were the murders of all the  prophet, including Jesus and John.  Who screemed 'crucify him?  those jews and priests you love so much.)

Mt 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. (the natural jews)

Mt 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

 

These serpents and hypocrite jews were the natural children of Abraham, and adam.  They are the murders of all the righteous people who were killed, including JESUS CHRIST AND ALL THE NT SAINTS.

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/18/2008 12:43 AM
To bless the seed of Abraham is to bless CHRISTIANS.  Real Christians, not this fake mess of 'church folks' calling themselves christians.
and certainly not this bunch of folks calling themselves israel or jews.
they are FALSE Israel and false Jews.
 
They rejected Jesus when he was here, and they still reject him.  THEY  , those idol worshipping rebels, called Israel or jews, were NEVER GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE AND NEVER WILL BE.
 
God's chosen people has ALWAYS BEEN THOSE OF FAITH, (which the old israelites, as a whole, never had = faith.).  The people who had faith were almost always of another nation.  Jesus said of several people, not Israelites,  I have not found this great faith in all Israel.
 
You cannot understand a thing I show you, straight out of God's word, BECAUSE YOU ARE BLINDED WITH THIS JEW WORSHIP.  It is those jewish fables God warned us about.
 
Sure the Catholic church and many other churches as well, killed Saints of God.....so did Cain....but Jesus said all of their blood had been shed in JERUSALEM.
 
Cain was part of old jeruslam.  So are the popes and all other false teachers, including yourself.  You do not understand a thing about where the Catholic church came from.  It was old Jerusalem, faking a church, bringing in their old idol worship and false priest system, which God always hated.
 
They started that church because God had dropped that nation and turned to Church.  So they started a false church in order to keep up their JEW WORSHIP to the world.  this is why all churches are deceived, as you are, about the natural folks calling themselves jews.  those jews hold this thing up in the eyes of the world all the time, through deceivers such as you and many like you.
 
This is why you fight truth and try to convince everyone to worship old jews instead of God's truth.  Anyone claiming that the Word of God and his salvation and love is not for everyone is filled with satanic hatred for all mankind.
 
God is the God of the whole world.  His word, his salvation and his Son is for the whole world.  I see you have no desire or ABILITY to hear truth, so why keep on with this?
 
Nothing can change you for good, because you hate God's choice of people and the way of salvation.
 
God chose those who had FAITH, FROM Eve and Abel on down to the end of the world.  He did not choose people because of any certain  'bloodline'.  You thinking that human blood, of anyone, carried weight with God, proves you have a reprobate mind, denying all God's truth.
 
God concluded the whole world, Jews and everyone else in UNBELIEF, SO HE COULD HAVE MERCY ON ALL.
 
But it is only to those of US WHO COME IN BY FAITH IN JESUS CHIRST, Accepting the Acts, way of salvation, who will find that mercy.  The rest are blinded and will end up in hell fire.
 
I hate no one.  You are a LIAR.  I rebuke your lies in the name of Jesus Christ.  I gave you pure Scripture and you denied it.
 
The Word of God plainly shows that the seed of Abraham, which is blessed, is not the natural seed, but the spiritual seed of Faith, which Jesus Christ and all who believe in him and obey him.
 
You must not ever read Scripture.  The Word plainly shows that Israel, all 12 tribes, displeased God all their lives, worshipping idols, and vexing his Holy Spirit, so that he HATED THEM AND CAST THEM OUT OF HIS SIGHT, and chose the people from the Gentiles, who would have FAITH and obey his word.
 
I have never studied Luther's teachings, and most certainly do not follow him.  He was as false as you are.  And again,  YOU DO LIE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT FIND ANY FAULT WITH My TRUE TEACHINGS, SO YOU MUST STOOP TO SLANDERING ME.
 
tHAT is always the deceiver's methods of persecuting those of us who are TRUE JEWS, THE PEOPLE OF FAITH.
 
Again, it is not in the flesh, not in any blood line, except spiritual through the blood of Jesus Christ.
 
Jesus was never given any Hebrew name.  He was given a new Testament name.  His parents did not name him.  God sent his name here by an angel.  You know no truth.

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