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 Message 1 of 10 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 12/19/2007 9:35 PM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 8/3/2001 12:01 PM

Proverbs 22:6---Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Proverbs 13:24---He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

v21----Evil pursueth sinners: but to the righteous good shall be repaid.

The Word of God has a lot to say on the subject of raising children. God is concerned that children be taught about him, from babyhood on. For this is the way to keep their life from going into evil which will bring much hurt into their lives.

He said if one loves their children, they will chasten them betimes (early). This means that if you correct children while they are very young and as soon as they do things wrong, it will bring them to righteousness. You should take the time to teach them right ways. The younger a child is taught righteousness, the better chance they have of knowing God and serving him to the good of their lives.

Knowing God as a child is the greatest thing in life. Satan has deceived parents into thinking they should just let children do as they please and not teach them God’s ways while they are young. But this is a tragic mistake.

While a child is young, they are forming their nature and their way of thinking. Everything that is fed into their minds will effect them the rest of their lives. So, is it sensible to let Satan and all his armies feed your babies from birth on? Is it right to let evil be constantly be put into your children’s heart?

God said children are his heritage. He will come against a nation which continually robs him of their children by just letting them go and learn evil and selfishness. Teach your babies to pray; read the Word of God to them (not stories about the Word--- read the Word itself to them). Don’t be deceived into thinking they are too young to hear and learn the Word. If they can learn abc’s, they can learn the Word of God.

Children are much more open to love God than grown people are. I believe almost all children would love God, if they are taught about him as small children.

When the disciples rebuked people for bringing their small children to Jesus for him to bless them, Jesus rebuked them and said Forbid not children to come unto me, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Ephesians 6:1,2---Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; that it may be will with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

v4---and, ye fathers, PROVOKE NOT YOUR CHILDREN TO WRATH: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

I was taught these verses diligently in my childhood church. It helped me all through life, both as a child (to obey my parents; and as a parent, to know to teach my children the ways of God).

You that still have young children or grandchildren, get back to teaching those children of God. Don’t cheat them of the glory of knowing God in childhood. That is the very best time for people to know God. Young hearts receive the wonderful presence of God so wonderfully.

A few years ago, my younger daughter and I along with some others, were having a home prayer meeting. Her young son (only about 3) was there. He had never been to church; he had never seen anyone in the Spirit; so he had no idea of dancing in the spirit or of speaking in tongues. He had never been around that. He could not have copied it.

I was going to lay hands on my daughter and pray for her. My grandson came over and stepped under my hand for prayer. I laid my hand on his head and prayed for him. He began to dance in the most beautiful dance and speaking in tongues I have ever witnessed. She went to stop him, for she thought he was just putting on: but I stopped her; I told her this is the most ‘real�?I have ever seen. It was a blessed sight; something I long to see again.

Today, that young grandson (he is 9 now)-- receives deep revelation from the Word of God. He is wise far beyond his age.

My little girl, which was run over and killed at eight years of age, had the most faith of anyone I have ever known. I taught her of God from birth on. I taught her to read out of the Scriptures. She loved reading the Word. She would sit in the yard with the family Bible in her lap (she could barely hold it) and read for hours. She begged me all the time to read to her. I read her the Book of Job; she loved it so much she begged to hear it again. When she was sick (which she seldom was) she refused to take any kind of medication; she would say Jesus will make me well; and He did. She would be well long before others with the same thing were.

I had taught her to pray. She had been baptized; by her own choice, at the age of 7. So when her untimely death occurred, I had peace about her eternal destination.

People, please help everyone get back to teaching children of God. If you are in a church that sends children out to play while services are going on, you should talk to the pastor and show him this is wrong, or find a church that teaches the children also.

Think of this: most homes do not teach children of God; they just let them watch Satan’s pulpit (the t.v.) or play around on computers; they do not take the time to read them the word and pray with them; the schools do not teach them of God anymore; now, when they go to church, they get sent into another room to play or outside to play ball or something. WHAT IS WRONG???? Why the move to keep children from God?? Parents and grandparents, and teachers, WAKE UP!!! Your children are being driven to Satan from birth on. Look at the results!!! Children killing others; children robbing, raping, devil worshipping, etc. Is this what you desire for our children. May God help everyone to here this cry:

GET BACK TO RAISING CHILDREN FOR GOD!!!!!

Jo



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/19/2007 9:37 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameJustaVoice2</NOBR> Sent: 8/3/2001 2:05 PM
             Greetings Joie;
 
             What do you train a child?
 
              What is nurture and admonition?
 
               Is it just to ,;
 
                    Abstain from things offered to Idols,
 
                    And from eating blood, and from fornication?
 
              Will a child do well with only this teaching?
 
              or is there more to training a child than there is to training a Gentile?
 
            Please answer with scripture!
 
             That is the only thing that is truth!
 
             And make sure it is referenced in you King James "version"!
 
           Thank you ! Waiting patiently for your scriptural answer.
 
           May you have peace! lol! :) until next time!  

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 Message 3 of 10 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/19/2007 9:37 PM
From: joie Sent: 8/3/2001 8:45 PM

 Ellesia, thank you so very much for such a good answer to this matter.  You know, if the questions were sincere, instead of trying to be sarcastic, it would be worth answering.  But for the sake of others who might read this, we should explain more.

Admonition  means---gently or friendly reproof.  counsel or warning against fault or oversight.

Nurture==Training, upbringing;  something that nourishes  .

So, we find that we should continually teach, reprove, and nourish (both naturally and spiritually = teach them the word) our children to help them find the way of eternal life; by obeying the Word of God in all things.  All children are the same;  not just Gentile children.  We are all the same.

God, I pray you will bring understanding to these who constantly resist the truth of thy Word.

Jo


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/19/2007 9:38 PM
From: Wanna Sent: 8/5/2001 10:50 PM

Pando,  which part of mamas post you consider child abuse?  the part about teaching a child to pray?  or the part of teaching a child to read the bible?  Or the part of teaching a child to live a righteous life?  Humm?

Wanna


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From: joie Sent: 8/5/2001 11:09 PM

Wanna, they would rather more people teach their children to steal, murder, hate, rape, beat up people, curse God, curse parents, burn people's homes, torture animals and little kids, curse everyone they meet, tear down people's businesses, etc, etc.

You know they do not want any kind, decent, loving, peaceful people in this world.

Teaching Children to hate God so they will end up in hell fire is not abuse, now is it????

God help you pityful 'beings"???

You go right ahead and bring the wrath of almighty God into you lives.  You  WILL reap all you sow;  so just keep on sowing wrath for your lives.  You will soon reap a horrible payday.

Be not deceived;  God is NOT mocked, whatsoever a man soweth,  that shall he also reap.   Your reaping day is just ahead.

Jo


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/19/2007 9:41 PM
From: joie Sent: 8/6/2001 11:41 AM

Pando and Biker

You know nothing of the joy of knowing God as a child; and that is sad.  It is not at all like you seem to think.  Remembering the visits I had from God as a child is one of my greatest joy to this day.  I thank my God every day that I had a mother who taught me to pray, read the Word of God, and live for him.

My Daughter, Wanna, made her own choice to serve God, just as I did.  So did her Daughter, Rebecca.  I can tell you, they will get more than enough of all that wordly stuff outside the home.  I wish they didn't, but you can rest assured the devil's crowd will give them more than an ample dose of mess. 

I am responsible to teach me children about God and how to have eternal life in glory.  I do not apoligize to you or anyone else for having done that.  When life is over and we are with God in his heavenly joys forever, and you and your children are burning in hell, you will remember that we tried to tell you the way; and all you can do is spue out evil replys against God and His Holy Word.

Your children will hate you eternally for your abuse in NOT teaching them the ways of Godliness.

Now, I am telling both of you, this community is for the sole  purpose of discussing and teaching God's Word.  We are not going to continue to have to fight you over every word we say.  You may get by with this stuff on other boards, where the true Christian standards are not upheld;  but not here.

I will not continue to let you come against every member of this community who voices something out of the Word of God.

I told you in the invitation, it was only for those who wanted to study the Word.  Now, it is certain you are not interested in this.  So, I will concult with the other managers and decide on what to do about your insulting remarks.

I for one am going to unjoin the atheist board.  God said we can not have communion with belial.  He said for us to come out from among them and that is what I am going to do.

I care not how much you hate me and twist my words.  It is your own soul you are damning; not mine.

If you hate your creator so much, I say He is justified to send you to hell.  The pity is you did not even give your children one little chance to Know God, and therefore be able to make an intelligent choice of serving him or not;/  you doom their soul to hell just because you want to go there.  That is a pity.

Jo

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p.s.  These are answers to some who used to be members here.  They are gone, and I deleted their Satan-inspired words.  Just so you know why there seems to be gaps in here, that is why.


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 Message 6 of 10 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/19/2007 9:43 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameJustaVoice2</NOBR> Sent: 8/6/2001 1:02 PM
            Greetings in the Most Holy Name of Yahweh even yahshua Messiah;
 
             Greetings Joie and all concerned;
 
             Proverbs 29:15; The rod and reproof give wisdom; but a child left to himself bringeth his Mother to shame!
 
             Prov. 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; the the rod and correction shall drive it far from him.
 
             Prov. 20:11 Even a child is know by his doings; whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.
 
              Now by these scriptures we know that a child must be trained and receive correction by the rod of correction, which is a good switching at times , but what are we suppose to teach him?
 
             If you teach a child the same things that are taught in the public schools , You provoke your children to wrath!
 
            If you provide a t.v. for their entertainment, You provoke them to wrath!
 
            But if you teach them a double standard, which is;
 
            #1 that they are under grace, and that they are'nt required to honor Gods Holy ten commandments as a lifestyle of righteouse living , YOU PROVOKE YOUR CHILD TO WRATH!
 
            #2. For you have destroyed the moral Standard of righteous conduct handed down to us from God himself out of Heaven !
 
             #3. Anytime you lose sight of God's Moral Standard to all people , and for all places, and for all times, you destroy the morale of your children and provoke them to the wrath to come on all of them that disobey him!
 
            Ephesians 5: 6, Let no man /woman deceive you  with vain words; for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the CHILDREN of DISOBEDIENCE.
 
           9. For the fruit of the Spirit is in all GOODNESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS and TRUTH!
 
          Ps. 119: 142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the TRUTH!
 
           152. Concerning thy testimonies (the ten commandments) I have known of old that thou hast founded them forever.
 
            155. Salvation is far from the wicked; for they seek not thy statutes.
 
165. Great peace have all they that love thy LAW; and nothing shall offend them.
 
            Shalom! LOL! :) ! until next time!  

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 Message 7 of 10 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/19/2007 9:43 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameJustaVoice2</NOBR> Sent: 8/6/2001 2:25 PM
           Greetings Pando;
 
                  now concerning the thoughts issue!
 
               In Ps. 141; 2-5,
 
              Let my prayer be set forth before you as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrafice.
 
               Set a watch, O Yahweh, before my Mouth; keep the door of my lips.
 
               Incline not my HEART, to any EVIL THING, to practice WORKS with men that work INIQUITY; and let me not eat of their dainties.
 
            Let the righteous smite me; It shall be a kindness; and let him reprove me; It shall be an excellant oil; which shall not break mine head; for yet my prayer shall be in his calamities.
 
            And again in Ps. 101:3-4;
 
            I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave unto me.
 
            The T.V. is a wicked thing that is controled by the federal cmmunications system, and every thought reproduced upon its air ways is corrupt in its very nature, producing only tares for the burning!
 
             Public schooling and its agenda is designed to produce citizens of the state for the state, a massive brainwashing system, underminds and demolishes the Words of our Messiah who said , You can not serve two masters . for you will love the one and hate the other or you will hold to the one and despise the other; You cannot serve Money and God. Math 6:24.
 
             Shalom! lol! :) keep smilin! until next time!  


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 Message 8 of 10 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/19/2007 9:45 PM
(here is another one of the atheists who used to be here, had to say:)
 
From: †¥…§ÇÒÓßÝ…¥�?/FONT> Sent: 8/9/2001 8:25 AM
You guys say to raise your children for god but what if u don't belive in god?
and how many other parent's out there d u think don't belive in god?
im a mother my self and i don't belive in god and therefore would not make my children belive in it either.
 
And jst because we don't belive in god doesn't mean we raise our children  to be evil or to kill or whateva elese u think we do  me myself try's to raise my children the best way i can and they don't go around killinng ppl or being horrible to anyone elese.
 
How can u justify this i would love to know??
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/19/2007 9:46 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameP-r-a-y</NOBR> Sent: 8/10/2001 2:57 AM
Scooby,
    As a parent I try to encourage my children to do the things I think would be good for them. I try to teach them not to do the things I learned were not good.
    Maybe your life has been good (I don't pretend to know), maybe you've never had problems, never been sick, never did wrong, never had your feelings hurt, never been hungry, never felt inadequate, never felt that you needed help; I just don't know.
    However, I know I have experienced all these shortcomings in my life and even more. You see I was never much of anything, I was always a nobody, you know the kinda guy that always got ignored, and didn't seem to be beeming with personality. But I discovered there were people who cared, and that I could pray to my Maker and He would comfort me in a way that gave me hope that had never existed in my life. As I read my Bible I discovered that God loved me so much that He sent His Son to die for every mistake I had ever made. The world always punished me when I did wrong, they made me out to be a second class citizen, but God's promise was that He would receive me as a truly loved son. Now maybe you think this is foolishness, and even Jesus is reported to have said the healthy don't need a doctor. If your not hurting you don't need tears wiped from your eyes, if your not hungry you don't need to be fed.
     Now I can tell you Jesus gave me hope when the world just gave me a hard time, and I want my children to know that there is hope, that when all else fails there is someone who cares. So, you see we all have a choice, we choose to believe what we choose to believe; me I found life was not fair, some people are rewarded greatly for next to nothing while others with nothing but good intent are mistreated. I also found that God loved me, you may not believe in Him, but I do and I want my children to know there is someone they can turn to that is fair and just and kind. Some may argue this point, but I have found it to be true.
     Maybe someday you will come to a point in your life where you will want something more than this world can offer. If you do, maybe you should try believing in a power beyond human understanding, a power that loves you, even though you may not love this power. I found this power was Jesus, and I know He is true.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/19/2007 9:46 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR> Sent: 11/14/2007 7:07 PM
I agree that we should raise children for the love of God. But the way this world is going, I do not think that many children today are raised to know GOD. I am starting to learn by reading alot that God condemns the material stuff of this world. Going after material stuff, wanting to be a zillionare and doing anything to reach that goal of wanting money and material things and power so somebody that is not rich could look up and praise you like GOD will send your soul to hell and not heaven.
 
When will people learn that man's way is not God's way?  Tweety

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 11/14/2007 7:18 PM
Wow, Tweety.  You found a good one this time.  We had some atheists in here at that time......and they fought everything we said.
The one called Biker was killed way back.
 
I finally got them all out of here.  They are such a hindrance to the work of God.
 
If I were not so sleepy and tired right now,  I would paste this thread to the family board.  It truly needs to be there and not get way back on our back pages again.
 
Girl,  you are a worker and go-getter.  Thanks and receive the blessings of God.
 
love ye,
me

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