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From: MSN NicknameTweety134  (Original Message)Sent: 6/27/2008 11:47 PM
Here Freeborn,
Here is what she said in her message:
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameSloughny</NOBR> Sent: 6/24/2008 3:04 PM
Hi There,
 
This is my understanding of the "Oneness"/ Trinity as I have been taught and a brief and basic explanation. 
 
God, The Father, is an entity of infinite energy.  We cannot comprehend Him.  In order to have a "form", He became flesh so that we would be able to relate to Him.  Christ is a part of that entity of energy in human form.  "If you've seen the Son, you've seen the Father."  This is also why Christ eludes to being "around" prior to this age.  In Heaven, Lucifer wanted to be this image/form, instead of Christ and declared mutiny.
 
My understanding of the Holy Spirit is that it is a tiny minscule/nano part of that energy is given to us in the form of the "Spirit" so that we are able to bond with Father at will.  This is separate from our Soul/Spirit.   That is God's "Ruach" or breath of life put into a form to hold it, the Soul.  The Soul to be here, must have a flesh body as we do.
 
So, the Soul houses our intellect, our Spirit.   Flesh bodies house the Soul/Spirit.  Upon request, Father gives us the Holy Spirit out of love for us and us for Him.
 
This is the Trinity.  The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit really are one as a whole yet can divide into separate roles.
 
Blessings,  Sloughny
 
And here is my Response:
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR> Sent: 6/25/2008 10:23 PM
Hi Sloughny,
I meant to get back to you sooner on this. Yeah I believe in the Trinity. But I have never heard it ever like you have just explained it. So I think you need to clarify some things for me:
 
1. God, The Father, is an entity of infinite energy.
Are you saying that is what a Spirit is? So in your mind-GOD is like a bolt of lightening or something? I think you need to find out what a spirit is.
 
2. We cannot comprehend Him. 
If we read and study HIS WORD we can fully comprehend HIM. That is all it takes. From what you said....It seems like a cop out to say that we can not comprehend HIM. You must study HIS WORD DAILY to comprehend HIM.
 
3.In order to have a "form", He became flesh so that we would be able to relate to Him.
So you think that GOD is like SPACE DUST-Floating around the air? A spirit has a form, and a shape. Jesus said that we have never heard HIS voice nor seen HIS SHAPE. Now how would you explain what Jesus said about the FATHER? Or do you think that Jesus was telling a lie? Please understand that GOD spoke. And he can hear our prayers. Again read HIS WORD and understand.
 
4. Christ is a part of that entity of energy in human form.
So Jesus was like the lightening bolt, and/or space dust, floating around somewhere in space, and then he put on flesh? This is not making any sense to me. If he was like space dust or a lightening bolt floating around space with GOD the Father, what made him flesh?
 
5. "If you've seen the Son, you've seen the Father.
Jesus taught us by example, what the Father is like...And we are to follow this example, and it can be done...JESUS DID IT...AND WE MUST DO IT..IN ORDER TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE...
 
6.This is also why Christ eludes to being "around" prior to this age. 
How did Jesus "elude" to being around? Are you sure it was Jesus or GOD THE FATHER? So if he was around-before he became flesh...What scriptures tell us that he was around before he was made flesh?
 
7.  In Heaven, Lucifer wanted to be this image/form, instead of Christ and declared mutiny.
What Biblical scriptures tell us that when Lucifer was in heaven that he wanted to be flesh? And was this flesh body given to Lucifer when he acted like a pirate and declared muntiny on heaven and GOD?
 
8. My understanding of the Holy Spirit is that it is a tiny minscule/nano part of that energy is given to us in the form of the "Spirit"
So The Holy Spirit is like a very small invisable pill that is slipped into our mouths when we open them in prayer or somethng? And the Holy Spirit is not really a Spirit, but a tiny pill nano part of some enery like ghost thingy? Can you give me a scripture for that description of the HOLY SPIRIT? I would really like to read it...
 
9. so that we are able to bond with Father at will
Like a large magnet? We just stick to the Father? Now GOD is starting to sound like velcro or a fly trap kind of thing.
 
10.That is God's "Ruach" or breath of life put into a form to hold it, the Soul.  The Soul to be here, must have a flesh body as we do.
So the breath of life is like SUPER GLUE, and it holds the soul and body together, so the soul does not leave the body before GOD calls it? Do you have scripture for that?
 
11. So, the Soul houses our intellect, our Spirit.   Flesh bodies house the Soul/Spirit.  Upon request, Father gives us the Holy Spirit out of love for us and us for Him.
So you are saying that GOD will say: Come here soul...And it will leave the flesh body, and go to the Father...Like a puppy? What if the soul does not want to leave the body, when GOD calls it? Or what if the soul gets stuck because of too much super glue had been used to keep the soul in the body, so it would not escape? Now what is GOD gonna do when that happens?
 
12. This is the Trinity.  The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit really are one as a whole yet can divide into separate roles.
So if I said that the Father, Son, Holy Spirit really are ONE because they are like play dough, and you can break them apart into separate things. And yet be one?
 
Did you learn all of this in a church? If you did, I would suggest that you run as quickly as you can to your nearest PENTECOSTAL CHURCH..AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THE TRUTH...DO THIS IMMEDIATELY!!! And never leave that church..
 
 
Get A GOOD STUDY BIBLE...THOMPSON CHAIN..ANY KING JAMES BIBLE WILL DO...
 
If you want to ask questions here on this board, I will be available to help.
 
I will pray for you.
 
Tweety


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/28/2008 4:49 PM
Thanks for posting it.  You really answered with a lot of wisdom and put their foolishness into right perpesctive.
 
will be back later to look at these other posts.  right now, got to go do something else.