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Genesis : Two Creations
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 1/17/2007 12:27 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAxs2-381</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 1/17/2007 12:58 AM
Joie, MSN is so messed up right now, it would take forever to find the Two Creations thread. I will find it when Msn is doing better. But for now I have it saved in my documents and will post just the message. Anyone interested in this message probaly needs to copy it and print it out to read it, it is so long, but it is a great message. Also Joie is right, I put many hours in taking this off the tape she did, but it was worth it to me, to God be the glory.  This is going to have to be in different messages,but as I said print it out to read.

Genesis:1&2

I would like to bring forth the great message that Joey was referring to about the first chapter and the second chapter of Genesis She has done a great job on this message.

I would like to show anyone that reads this great message. This controversial subject that everyone is mixed up about the creation. Even those men who fervently fight in the name of Jesus for the creation and they are right except they don’t have the true revelation of the Scriptures. They try to disprove evolution and that’s a good thing that they are doing but if they can only come in the truth what the book of Genesis is showing, they would be able even more to show what God is really showing.

This is a very deep subject and will take a lot of scriptures. Get your bibles out and get into the study with me. Let’s go to chapter 1 and chapter 2 of Genesis. I want to show you In God’s word that chapter 1 is not the creation of mankind as we know man. Chapter 2 is the creation of the dust man and all the dust creation as we know man. Chapter 1is another world altogether and has absolutely nothing to do with life from Adam and Eve made from the dust of the ground down to our day.

They do not appear in Genesis chapter 1. We can see in chapter 1 the time period where he did this on the first day, second day, 3rd day, etc. People of God that is not talking about the creation of man from the dust of the ground. It has absolutely nothing to do with our world.

It is a heavenly world that we have never seen, that we are yet to see. And I will prove to you by God’s word that there is absolutely no comparison, no similarity, with chapter 2 of Genesis and chapter 1 and I will prove to you that the dust creation that we are part of here has no time limit set on it whatsoever.

We have no record of how long this creation took, we have no record of when it came to be. The record in chapter 1 is not talking about this earth that we live on today. It is not talking about mankind in his fallen state. It is talking about a heavenly world where everything was and still is perfect.

Even the animal creatures there were perfect. They were made after God’s kind, they were not made like creatures we see today. Unless you see and understand that Jesus Christ is God’s Son and not God himself you will never see the truth of God’s word.

Every revelation in God’s word depends on that true foundation that Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God. The true foundation for the church and for the revelation is not that Jesus is God. The entire church world is preaching that Jesus is God, but that is just not the truth. Jesus is God’s Son, the Lord God. God had a heavenly Son that came to this earth in the state of all fallen man as Jesus Christ.

God himself did not do that his Son did. The word never any time said that God left Heaven and came through Mary, he said his son did. But that Is a different teaching. To see that teaching you need to look at -“The True Foundation�?and also “Jesus, God’s Son�?

It is necessary to see that Jesus was God’s Son to see what we are teaching here and anything that is in God’s words. Everything in God’s word rests upon that revelation that Jesus was God’s Son. Until you see this revelation you probably will not see what we are teaching here or anywhere else. It is impossible to see truth without knowing this revelation. If you think that Jesus is God and he is the only one you will never see the truth of God’s words.

Because in many, many scriptures especially in Psalms, God and the Son are talking to each other. How could you ever see that without knowing, that they are two separate beings?

The word says that God is a spirit, the word also said that God was not man. The word said that Jesus Christ was a man. Jesus Christ himself said that God is a Spirit and they worship him much worship him in spirit and truth. After the resurrection Jesus told his disciples to feel me and handle me to see that a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see me have. So you see even after the resurrection he was still not considered to be a spirit.

He was still a man. The word of God also said there is one God and also there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Christ Jesus is a man and he is a mediator and other words the go-between us and God. So in order to understand what we are fixing to tell you, you need to understand that.

Genesis chapter 1 is a world created by God. God the Father- Capitol God- You look at chapter 1 and you can go all the way down through there it always said God created, God did this, God did that, God did the other. When it switches to chapter 2 and goes into the creation of man from the dust of the ground it said the Lord God did this. All the way through chapter 2 it said the Lord God did this. You see there’s a reason for this.

Chapter 1 is a heavenly world created by God himself in the likeness and image and the glory of God which is a spirit. He created a spirit world of perfection and that was the creation that had day one, day two, day three, not the world we live in. These people that are trying to backup creation by saying that we were created in six days don’t know what they are talking about.

This creation down here was not created like that. That’s the heavenly world and we do not have any Idea and it does not matter how much his days was. It could have been a million years for all that we know and it could have been one day. God’s time is not like our time, he was dealing with another world altogether. To prove that looking at Genesis chapter 1

In the beginning, he didn’t say in the beginning of what, there are many beginnings. It could have been the beginning of a new heaven and the new Earth or it could have been the beginning of a world back yonder on the other side of the dust of man.

But anyway he said in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth was without form , and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Gen1:3-- And God said, Let there be light: and there was light ( now let me show you something, he’s not talking about the light of the sun, he’s not talking about the light of the moon. Because we can see this is the first day of creation. Now look at the 14th versus where he created the sun, moon, and the stars, you see this was on the 4th day.

So on the first day he created light but it was not the light of the sun. He said- Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness

5 “And God called the light Day,�? with capitol D which means it is talking about a person.

The DayStar rising in your heart, here he is talking about the Son of God Jesus Christ.) “and the darkness he called Night �? capitol N here is talking about Satan.) “And the evening and the morning were the first day.�?Now that is not talking about the world we live In and we will see this and just a minute when we go to chapter 2 that this is not pertaining to our world.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. ( now you know that the waters show people, (let me add this for Spiritwalker here is one of your symbols showing waters as people) so what he is doing is dividing some groups of people here that was In a heavenly world that we absolutely know nothing about.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 “And God called the firmament Heaven,�?(Capitol H that is showing the abode of God the heavenly world where God is.) �?And the evening and the morning were the second day.�?/STRONG>

You need to print this out where you can study this and compare Genesis chapter 1and chapter 2 to see what we are telling you where you will be able to concentrate on this study. When I first heard this message it took me a very long time to see what was happening in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. First of all you need to lay aside all that you have been taught on this subject. Because no one has really taught this on this like it should have been.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; ( now this is not talking about the dry land that we live on, he is talking about the Earth in another world.) “and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.�?

Now watch this- 11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind,( talking about God’s kind) “whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.�?( this seed in itself shows life, not the kind of life we have on this earth, not temporal life, it means that it had the God life in itself eternal life.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself,( that means it had life in itself) after his kind( the God kind) and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.( so you see on the third day he brought forth the grass and fruit trees and all of that but he is not talking about the grass on this earth that we see.)

Now the 4th day of creation- 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;( see the small d & n this is referring to day and night as we know it) “and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:�?/STRONG>

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.( on the 4th day he brought in the sun, moon, and stars. This was not the light that he was talking about in vs. 4&5 where he said the light was called Day.)

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, ( hear he is talking about the small day and the small night which means the regular day and night) “and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.�?/STRONG>

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Can’t you see in the first day of creation when he divided the light from the darkness what he was doing he was dividing the holy angelic host that was true to God from the angelic host that fell away from God. Because you see that was on the first day where he divided the light from the darkness by the capital D Day and the capital N Night which is talking about Jesus and Satan ( another symbol for Spiritwalker)

Now on the 4th day when he is dividing the light from the darkness he is talking about the regular day and regular night by the regular moon and stars with a small d and a small n see that was on the 4th day. So he divided the light from the darkness to on two separate days of creation. The first day, and the 4th day so he had about be talking about two different creations.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life,

( hath life that is talking about eternal life) �?and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.�?/STRONG>

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 6th day -And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind,( see the creatures in the 5th day came out of waters, now these creatures here are coming forth out of the earth) �?Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.


25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.( See God created a man and a woman in his image and likeness on the 6th day. This is not the Adam and Eve that we know about.)

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.


29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. ( In other words they were not going to eat to any animals.)

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.


31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. ( Now you see on that 6th day of creation he said every living creature was to eat herbs and grass. Not one creature on this earth that he Is talking about will kill and eat another animal. It is not to be seen.

   


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/17/2007 12:28 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAxs2-381</NOBR> Sent: 1/17/2007 1:09 AM

If you will read Isaiah speaking of the millennium he said they will not hurt of destroy in all of his holy mountain. The lion will eat straw just like the lamb. He said that the bear and the lamb would lay down and play with each other. They will all be eating grass together. So you see that is not the world you and I know.

He said in one place that he declared the end from the beginning. In chapter 1 of Genesis God is declaring the way that it will wind up in its perfection. The man and the woman created in the image and lightness and glory of God the Jesus Christ and his wife.

This is not talking about the man made out of the dust of the ground. This is talking about a perfect world where everything was good and every thing was perfect. It will always be that way. It did not fall away from that. That is not the world that fell. That world has never fell and never will.

Chapter 2 - Genesis 2
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

What this is saying is that In the millennium that is the Sabbath day rest. Where man is created in the image and the likeness and the glory of God, Jesus Christ and his bride.

Verse 4 of chapter 2- After he said that this was finished and was very good look what he said. He starts over, people thinks that he is repeating himself here for what he said in chapter 1. Now why would he be repeating that? There is absolutely no similarity whatsoever of the two creations.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth (small h and small e) when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens. ( We have switch from talking about capital God to the Lord God. We are talking about God’s Son making a world.

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, ( it was somewhere else before it was in the earth) �?every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.�?( chapter 1 has already stated that God created a man is in his image and likeness why is it stating here that there was not a man to till the ground. If he had already created a man in the likeness and image of God and that is who we are talking about in chapter 2, why would he say there was not a man?

This man In chapter 1 was creating to rule, he was created as a King and given total dominion over the entire and everything upon it. This man that we are fixing to read about now was created for the sole purpose of tilling the ground. In other words a servant.

This man in chapter 2 was made to till the ground. The man in chapter 1was made to rule the whole earth. Two different men for two different purposes, two different worlds, two different creations. People of God we are not in the image and likeness of God, we are in the image of sinful man.

6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.( Let’s go back to chapter 1 and see what he said about the fifth day and also the sixth day
.

GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.


23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.


25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Then on the sixth day we see that he made the man and the woman the last thing.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Now the first thing that is said in chapter 2 that the Lord God made was man from the dust of the ground. Now in this part and time the man does not have a wife. He made man from the dust of the ground and then after that he said.

Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Now we know from the study of Trees In the Garden that these trees are not natural trees that we can look at.

A tree in the Scripture is symbolic to a person or kingdom. Jesus said I am the vine meaning the tree your are the branches. All through the Scriptures nations are referred to as a tree. So here the tree of life is referring to Jesus Christ and his kingdom. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is talking about Satan and his kingdom. But this is not the study that we are on now. To see this you’ll have to read Trees In the Garden.

10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. ( River in the Scriptures also refers to a nation, he refers to Egypt as a river. This was four different nations of people that went out of the garden of Eden.

15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.( See what he put him there for. He did not put him there to have dominion and rule. He said he put him there to dress it and to keep it. He was put there as a gardener, a servant. He was not put there as a King, he was not there as a ruler having dominion over the whole earth. Never at anytime was the man of the dust of the earth given dominion over the whole earth.

16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:


17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. ( he is not talking about natural food here but he Is talking about the word of God. He is talking about what we are to feed on, what he listens to, what he takes in his mind. That’s how you feed, you take somebody’s word in your mind and you feed upon it and your spirit.

He told this man not to eat, not to partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which is Satan. Satan’s word, Satan was the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Already fallen away from God.

18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. ( we see here where he said the man was all along - go back to chapter 1 on the six-day and see where he created the man and the woman together.

Gen 1:27- So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.( you see they were created together. It did not say they were separated. The man in Genesis 2:18 was all along.)

Now look what God said next- 19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

That is not how the creatures in chapter 1 came to be. He formed these from the dust of the ground. Every beast of the field, talking about the beast of the earth that we live on now. Jesus said In a parable that the field was the world. ( Spiritwalker another symbol) The field is this earth.

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.( See he had not made Adam a wife at that time, notice that it has not said one word always down through here about any time period. We have no time period given for this creation of the dust of the ground that we know today. There is absolutely no time period set on it.)

21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof ( no connection whatsoever about the creation that what he did in chapter 1 with the man and the woman, he did not say one thing about putting that man to sleep, or any of this that he is saying about the man in chapter 2. Totally to different creations.)

21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.


23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Now let’s get into chapter 3

Genesis 3
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. ( Seem how that is worded, he did not say the serpent the most subtil beast of the field. We have a teaching in the land that is very deadly and evil. This teaching is saying that the serpent was a creature between a man and a animal. The missing link that is what it is called, foolish talk. This said that the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made, so he is not comparing him with the beast of the field.

As being one of them, he said that he was subtil than any of them, Subtily comes from the devil. If you practice subtily that means that you practice deception. Trying to pretend you are something that you are not. Trying to deceive people, you need to realize that spirit comes from Satan.

Subtily does not come from God. God said to be honest and open. The Serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made including Adam and Eve.

“And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden�?( see what he is doing, he is making her doubt God’s word.)

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.


4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, ( He is talking about their understanding, he is not talking about that she was blind and could not see
.

He was saying that this will give you understanding in your mind that you don’t have to-day. So the fruit of the tree had to be something that would go in the mind, it had nothing to do with the fruit going in the belly. It was his words. He said that if you will just listen to me, and take my words your understanding will be open. Actually what he was saying I know more than God. Listen to me.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/17/2007 12:29 PM
 
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAxs2-381</NOBR> Sent: 1/17/2007 1:16 AM

Now back to Gen. 3:5-

And ye shall be as gods, ( small g gods be as gods) knowing good and evil.( we also have a false teaching in the land that tells people they are God. That is a very deadly teaching, If you search the Scriptures you will see he was saying that about angels. When he said he called them Gods unto who the word of God came.

He was not talking about the prophets, nor was he talking to people. God gave his words to angels and they carried it to men. Look in Rev. and you can see where an angel brought it to John. This is a different message so we don’t want to get to involved with that right now. That is the original sin, man wanting to become as God.

What happened here is Satan tempted them to worship him. We know that when Jesus fasted for 40 days that this is what happened that Satan told him that if he worshipped him that he would give him these kingdoms. That is what happened in the garden of Eden they accepted Satan’s word or his offer which is nothing but the carnal mind. The carnal mind of this man was talking to this woman. So this man had already turned away from God and he subdued this woman with his own thinking.

He said that ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil, proving that this was coming off the tree of good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,( here this is talking about spiritual food) and that it was pleasant to the eyes,( in other words the lust of the eyes) and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, ( In other words she did not think that she was wise enough from the hands of God, she wanted to have the knowledge of good and evil.

She wanted to do good and evil just like Solomon. Solomon said he searched out to know good and he also searched out to know evil. He was not satisfied just to know good he also wanted to know evil. That is what is happening here, they wanted to know good and they also wanted to know evil.

She took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. ( In other words she accepted those words of Satan and accepted him as her God instead of the Lord God.)

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. ( This is not talking about that they could see their sexual parts and they realized they were naked. This has not one thing to do with that.

It is the same kind of nakeness that God spoke to the Laodicean church. That they were naked, wretched, blind and miserable. That means that they had broken their fellowship with God. Now they were not under the holy covenant of God’s spirit. They had come out from under God’s holy covenant and now they had become of Satan’s evil spirit. That is the nakeness that it is talking about.

And they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.( In other words they tried to cover this up with their own works. The works of their own hands.

8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.


9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. ( when you are covered with the covering of Jesus Christ you are not afraid of God’s presence you love it, you long for it, you hunger for it. But when you are in sin and covered with Satan’s spirit you are afraid of God presence.)

11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? ( It was not that God didn’t know , he was giving Adam a chance to confess. But you can look in Job and other scriptures and see that Adam never did confess. Adam never did repent, he never did confess to his wrong.

11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? ( see God was giving Adam a chance to repent. He laid it out before him what he had done but it was necessary for Adam to admit to it for him to ever receive forgiveness. But he never did admit to his sin. We can look at the book of Job and see where Job said that Adam hid his sin in his bosom. In other words he blamed his wife.

12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. ( Here is partly blaming God, when he said the woman you gave me, she is the one that caused me to do this.)

The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. ( So we can see that God just let it go and did not say anymore about it. He did not argue with Adam about it, he just let it go, he saw that Adam was not going to admit to his wrong. So he turned to the woman and gives the woman a chance.)

13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.( So now God turns to the serpent)

14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; ( See he did not say every other beast, Satan is never linked to the beast of the field like people think. He was not one of them, He was the anointed cherium that God had created.

Upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: ( Now he is not telling him that he was changing him to a snake and he was going to crawl around on his belly all the days of his life.

God was telling him that he would no longer be able to move in the spirit world, which means that he would no longer be able to receive worship in the spirit . He would only be able to receive worship in the dust of the ground. That only this dust creation could ever be his. You can see this if you read Eze. 28.

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, ( see the enmity is between the serpent and the woman not the serpent and man) and between thy seed and her seed;

Her seed is Jesus Christ. His seed is people that worship and serve the devil, they are his seed. Read the parable that Jesus spoke of the sower, he said the wheat was the children of the kingdom and the tares was the children of the wicked one. There is always enemity between the true people of God and the people of Satan. That is what he is saying here.

It shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.( He is saying that the seed of the woman, (speaking of Jesus Christ) the prophecy that Jesus would bruise the head of Satan and that Satan would bruise his heel. So has it been down through the ages.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. ( In other words what she needed would have to be supplied to her by her husband. This is the first time that she was told that the man would rule over her. That was the punishment for her yielding to Satan. She was not under his ruler ship at the beginning, there were equal.

When Jesus came upon this earth he fixed it back that way again. He said in Christ you are all 1, you for all the same. That does not mean that the woman is not to honor and reverence her husband, and it also doesn’t mean that he is to rule over her and tell her what she can do what she can not do. That is not what God is talking about.

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17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;


18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

See that is not the man in the image and glory of God. This man created in chapter 1 in the likeness and image of God had eternal life and he always lived. He was not from the dust, and never will be from the dust. Because if had been he would not have been in the image and lightness and glory of God. Because God is a spirit.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
( Everybody says here that God killed an animal and put the skin on them. This is where God reduced them to mortal flesh where we are now. They were not in mortal flesh from the beginning. Where this is saying is that he changed them into mortality.

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: ( In other words he was not going to be able to take of Jesus�?tree now. To take of the words of Jesus which is eternal life and to live for ever in the rebellious state that he was in.

23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.( In other words he had made him of the dust of the ground some where other than the garden of Eden. Remember after that he had made him he took him and put him in the garden of Eden. So he was not made from the dust of the ground in the garden of Eden. He was put there, he was not part of the original garden. A garden means different plants, different people that God put there. There were many nations of people in the garden other than Adam and Eve. It is a heavenly world. You have to study the scriptures to get into these deep things of God and we will not go there now. If you will
study Ezekiel chapter 27through 32 you will see where all these nations came out of the garden of Eden.

Gen 3

24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Now let’s go to Philippians and let me show you something that needs to go along with this message. This is another mistaught scripture that has taught people that they are equal with the living God. That is a dangerous deadly teaching and it is a mistwisting of God’s word but it goes alone with what we’re teaching in Genesis.

Philippians 2:5- 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: ( There are some so-called preachers that will read this and will not go any farther they will stop right there. But that Is not a complete sentence because you have a: after God which means that is more to it, there is more coming to complete this thought.

Now remembered in chapter 1 of Genesis where God created a man in the image and likeness and glory of God that was Jesus. Jesus was in the form of God and at that time he thought it not robbery to be equal with God. He was God’s heavenly son before he came to this earth and he was in the form of God.

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: ( Now go back to Genesis chapter 2 and look at the man that was made from the dust of the ground, he was made to be a servant. He was not made to be a ruler. That man from the dust of the ground even in his garden state before he fell away from God was not given dominion over this earth.

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:


10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Now I hope you can see that he was not telling people to let a mind be in you to think that you are equal with God. We are not equal with God, never have been and never will be. Jesus said is the resurrection that we would be equal with the angels. He never did say that we would be equal with God. Jesus in the beginning was in the form of God.

That is when he thought it not be robbery to be equal with God. But when he came to this earth he was made in the likeness of sinful man. The word plainly says that he was in the likeness of sinful man, made into all points like unto his brethren. He came here to this earth as a fleshly man. For people to teach that he walked around on this earth as God himself is to totally deny the entire purpose and the entire work, the entire sacrifice that Jesus did for us. He suffered everything as we suffer, he went and prayed to God continually for strength to go on. There are scriptures in Psalms where he was in doubt of even where he would be able to accomplish the work that he was sent here to do.

There is Scriptures in the book of Psalms where God comforted and told Jesus that he was going to do these things. He went through that as a man. Jesus suffered as we suffer, and to say that he was God walking around here and knowing everything ahead of time and being able to magically do everything is to deny the sufferings of Jesus Christ as a man. If you say that he was God walking around on this earth you are denying the whole sacrificial life and death of Jesus. He came here as a man, he died on the cross as a man. God cannot die, men cannot kill God.

Not only that he went into to hell fire for us. People don’t preach what Jesus did for us. He gave up his heavenly world and came here and suffered on this earth as a man, and died a horrible death on the cross and then went into hell fire and suffered the pains of hell, you can find it in the book of Psalms that the pains of hell got hold upon him. Even his prayers, he prayed to God even while he was in hell are recorded in the book on Psalms. People don’t always understand the book of Psalms because they always think that it Is talking about David, it is not about David it is about Jesus.

The man that was wandering about, the people being rich and prospering and being upset about it in the Scriptures was talking about Jesus not David. David was a King, he wasn’t the one to going around poor and worried about that, David only recorded the words of Jesus.

Do you remember in one of the gospels, that Jesus said my “Father is greater than I�? He never said that I was equal with God and he never stated that he was God. He always admitted to being the Son of God, but he never claimed to be God. The apostles never said that he was God.


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Read in Romans 1:4 where Paul said that he was declared to be Son of God with power by the resurrection. He did not say that he was declared to be God. He said that he was declared to be the Son Of God by the resurrection. Up until that time he was the Son of Man. Unless you get this straight you will never see revelation of God’s word. It is impossible to see the truth of God’s word without knowing this true foundation.

When Jesus asked Peter who do you say I am? Peter said thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God. Jesus said that flesh and blood,( now remember that Jesus himself was standing there talking to Peter in flesh and blood) have not reveal this to you, but my Father which is in heaven has revealed this to you.

And upon this rock ( foundation) I will build my church. Upon that revelation, you will never see the truth of God’s word without knowing the true revelation, that Jesus is the Son of God and Not God himself. That is the foundation that the church was founded upon, that solid rock.

Hebrews 1
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past (old testament) unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days (NT.) spoken unto us by his Son, ( in other words no more prophet speaking God’s word. John the Baptist was the last of that type of prophet) �?whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;�?( That was the creation in chapter 2 that was made by the Son of God.)

3 Who being the brightness of his glory,( this is when he made the worlds back yonder when he was in the heavenly creation with God, he was In the image and glory of God. He left that image and glory of God and came to this earth in the image of sinful man.

So if he left image of God and came to earth as the image of sinful man then sinful man is definitely is not in the image and glory of God. People are always saying that we are in image and glory of God now. We are not in the image and glory of God, we are in a mortal corruptible body, and God is not in a mortal corruptible body. The Son of God was not in a mortal corruptible body before he came to this earth through the birth of Mary, he was in the image and glory of God. He went back to that Image after the resurrection.)

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins,  that was when he died on the cross and went into hell, paid the price for second death) sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

4. Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. ( That is just what we have read, that God gave him a name above every name. That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow.)

5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

6. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, ( that is talking about when he was resurrected. That is when he begot him from the dead.) he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. ( see they were not told to worship Jesus and his earthly state. They were told to worship him after the resurrection. When he had fulfilled his entire life in complete obedience to God. If he had failed as Satan did, and Adam failed he would not have been resurrected as our savior, and everything would have been lost. He could have, he could have failed but he did not fail because he trusted in God and he looked to God to keep him from failing. You can find that in the book of Psalms.)

7. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

8. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. ( There he called his Son God.) In Hebrews chapter 2 it said-

4. God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

5. For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.

6. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?

7. Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: ( Now a lots of people say this Is talking about mankind but it is not, it is talking about Jesus.)

8. Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. ( Now if you will read 1st Corinthians chapter 15 you’ll see that God the Father put everything in subjection under Jesus�?feet.) For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

9. But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. ( Now see he said right there that he was made a little lower than the angels.)

vs.-16. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

18. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, ( see Jesus Christ was tempted, God cannot be tempted.) he is able to succour them that are tempted.

Now can you see that Jesus Christ was made just like us in every point. And it said for in another place that he was made perfect by his suffering. I hope you see that Jesus Christ was put here to suffer just like us. He would make perfect, he was perfected in the things that he suffered. The living God never had to go through such things, the living God never left Heaven to go through such things his son Jesus did. All through the scriptures he is called the son of God and he constantly talked about his father.

He came to this earth a little lower than the angels, he didn’t even come as an Angel. He took upon him a state below the Angels. Peter said that the Angels are greater in power and might than we are. We’re not liked the angels, and Jesus did not come hear like an angel, he came here as a man.

In all points as his brethren, he did not come here and walk around on this earth as God. He came here as a mortal being just like you and me. He was begotten by the Holy Ghost in the womb of Mary but he came here as a full flesh and blood man. He had to pray constantly for God to take him through what he was tempted with and he suffered as no other man has suffered because he knew that the salvation of the entire creation rested upon his shoulder.

If he had failed as Satan failed, if he had failed as Adam failed, the entire creation of God would have been lost. But he never failed, he never did sin, he obeyed God in every thing.

When he came out of that grave in his glorified state then God lifted him up to the level as God himself. Then God gave him all power in Heaven and Earth as God himself had. He said the Angels of God and all of us to worship him. Jesus is our God, but he is not God the Father. He is God’s holy Son.

Hebrews 4

14. Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

15. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

16. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.( I hope you can see that Jesus was tempted in all points as we are the word of God says that God cannot be tempted. Jesus came to this earth and went through everything as a man, he was made like unto that man that was made from the dust of the ground in the second chapter of Genesis.

That man was not the man in the first chapter, the man in the first chapter was a perfect created being that is still in the glory and image of God.

Hebrews 5

8. Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; ( see he had to learn obedience just like we do.

9. And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

See he came here and went through everything growing up and having to learn to be obedient and sufferings, man of sorrows, antiquated with grief, these things do not describe God. These things describes the earthly son of God. The heavenly Son of God back in Genius chapter 1 created this dust creation, that’s why it’s saying that Jesus came unto his own and his own received him not. That is why they did not recognize him. They did not recognize this fleshly man as being the God that created us. You see that he is the God that created us because God said let us make man in our likeness and image.

He was talking to somebody, he was talking to his son. God the Father is a spirit and in the first chapter of Genesis he created a spirit world.

The word of God says in 2nd Corinthians chapter 5 that ties in with this -

1. For we know that if our earthly house ( he is calling this fleshly body a house) of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

3. If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.( See that is the nakeness that Adam and Eve found themselves in after they had sinned in the garden of Eden. They found themselves put out of their glorified bodies and put down here in a mortal body.

That is also the nakeness that he is talking about to the Laodiceans in the book of Revelation chapter 2, they are naked and don’t have on the glory of God.

But you see that he said that when we put off this earthly house then we have another house eternal in heavens not with hands. That is talking about the glorified spirit bodies that God created in the heavenly world back in Genesis chapter 1.

 

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We have a matching body up there that is eternal, that is part of that spirit world. That’s the image and glory of God. We do not have the redemption of our body yet. When we receive our glorified bodies we come forth in the likeness and image and the glory of God. We receive a house from heaven that is already there, already in the heavens eternal into the heavens.

But you see we have never lived in that house, that is why Paul said that which is first

is that which is earthly because we bare the image of the earthly first. He said as we have borne the image of the earthly we shall also bare the Image of the heavenly. So you see we are already in the image and likeness of God.

How could it say then that as we have borne the image of the earthly we shall bare the image of the heavenly, see we are not in the image of the heavenly now. We are in the image of the earthly. See the Scriptures are full of this, that is no Scripture anywhere that shows that we are in the image of God in the state that we are in now.

The words shows that even Jesus himself became subject and obedient to the father when he came on this earth as a servant. He came on this earth in the likeness of sinful man and humbled himself and became obedient. Go back to Philippians chapter 2 again and read that, that’s the mind that he’s telling you to let be in you. That mind of humbleness and obedient. Because we are still in this earthly corruptible body. If you are not humble and obedient to God, you will never have your glorified body.

Jesus obeyed God at all times and never at any time on this earth said that he was equal with God. Never said at anytime that he was God. He always lifted his father up and always said my father is greater than I. Always saying that he would do only the things that pleased his father. Being totally obedient to God. That is the only way that we have salvation is because Jesus never disobeyed God at any time.

Now back to second Corinthians chapter 5:4-- For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.( Read this and also first Corinthians chapter 15 which shows that we are in an earthly body that is mortal and corruptible and that at the resurrection we will be given an immortal incorruptible body. That’s the one in the image and likeness and glory of God.

In Psalms 103:14- For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust. ( We are in a body of dust right now and that Is not the glory and the image of God. That was not in the creation that had the first and second and other days. In the image of God was in the first chapter of Genesis where he created the heavenly world.

Go back and read chapter 2 of Genesis and see where he made the dust creation. First he made the man from the dust of the earth, he put him in the garden to be a servant, and then he made the animals of the dust of the ground. Last of all he took Adam and put him to sleep and took a rib and made the woman.

Now go back to Genesis chapter 1 on the six-day.

1:27- So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

All the animals had already been created, you see everything the fish, creatures, all the creeping things were created before the man and the woman. The man and the woman were the last thing to be created in chapter 1 but you go to chapter 2 he starts off with the creation of man. Then he made the animals and brought them to Adam and Adam named them and then he made the woman. So you see it does not match the first chapter any kind of way.

They are two different worlds, a spirit perfect world which someday we will be part of if we obey God and come up in the first resurrection and receive a glorified body. We will be part of that heavenly world then because we will be given a body which is from heaven. Eternal in the heavens not made by hands. It was not ever made from the dust of the ground. That’s the body that he Is in the likeness and image and glory of God. That’s the body that Jesus was given at the resurrection. You know it said that he was in another form. He came forth in his glorified state. Then he was in the image and likeness and glory of God and then God set him to be equal with himself and gave him all power and authority in heaven and earth that God himself had. We are never gseoing to be put there, we will always be subject to them.

First Corinthians chapter 15 said when Jesus gets through reigning in the millennial and brings everything under subjection to him that he offers the Kingdome up to God the Father and he himself become subject to God. We always going to be subject to God, we will never be equal with God never at any time. Jesus said at the resurrection that we will be equal to the Angels, but he said that the angels are not equal to God. Jesus Christ is the only one that God ever elevated up to that place to ever be elevated to be God himself, that he would be called our God. Jesus is the only one that God has elevated to that place and he is the only one that he will ever elevate to that place.

That is what the original sin was, wanting to be God. Let’s go into Ezekiel chapter 28 starting with vs. 1.

1. The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

2. Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, ( this is talking about Satan) Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, ( capital God) I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas;( this was the Kingdome of Satan coming upon the earth. He said I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas in other words he was saying I am down here on this earth amongst all these people and I am God. I see in the seat of God. See this is this spirit of Satan, wanting to be God is the original sin.) yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

3. Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:

4. With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:

5. By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:

6. Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;

Read this chapter because we do not have the time to get into this now. If you will read this you will see that is where Satan was in the garden of Eden.

The word said in this chapter verse 13-

13. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the Beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

I hope you can see from all of this that this is showing that he was back there in the garden of Eden. He was a beautiful creature that God had made, but he turned wicked. But what made him wicked? He was jealous of God and he wanted to be God. What did he tempt Adam and Eve with? Wanting to be as God. It was the sin that was committed in the garden of Eden not sex that some say.

Go back and read in Genesis that was the first blessing that God ever put upon man or creatures. He said God blessed them and said be fruitful and multiply. There is not but one-way to do that and that is to have sex. Eve never had sex with anybody but Adam. Adam was the father of Cain and Adam was the father of Able. Adam hid his sin in his bosom and never repented.

The book of Job said even those that have not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression who hid his sin in his bosom. Hid means he never repented, he never confessed it. If you have sin in your life and you never repent, and you never confess it, you deny it. In other words you are in denial, you refuse to admit that you have sinned. If it had been pointed out to you. See God came to Adam and pinpointed what he had done wrong, but Adam refused to admit it. So God left him because he never admitted his sin. God never forgives anyone for their sins unless they confess them. If you deny what you have done God will never forgive you.

Eve repented, because she knew that after Abel had died, she knew that God had promised her that her seed would bruise the head of Satan. So when Seth was born to her, she said that God has appointed me another seed in place of Able whom Cain slew. So you see right there that she wanted that holy line to continue to bring forth Christ.

The Scripture continues to point out Adam’s sin always down to the end. The word of God says that he remembers your sins no more, but he kept remembering Adam’s sin. You read in the book of Job where he said about Adam hiding his sin under his bosom and also where Paul said death reigned over them from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression.

See his transgression is pointed out and named to be a greater transgression than anybody else. He lifted himself up to be God. He never did repent, he never did confess it so it is still held against him. You don’t quit holding a sin against a person unless they admit they have done it, unless they repent. If you don’t repent, if you don’t confess your to sins, if you practice subtlety and try to make people think that you all right with God when you are not. Make people think you never say things that you say and try to make people think you are something that you are not.

That is the spirit of Satan, that is the spirit of subtility that was at work in the garden of Eden. You need to get rid of it anybody that had this spirit of subtility. It is a whole lot better to let man think something wrong about you down here than to have to face it with God at the judgment. God said that if we judge ourselves that we would not be judged. If we confess our sins and repent he is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteoususness.

But he does not cleanse people that does not repent and don’t admit to their sins. I just don’t see in the scriptures where Adam repented. I don’t see in the Scripture where Adam ever got any forgiveness.

God raised his son Jesus up, Jesus is the one that was given dominion over this earth. Jesus is the one. Read over there where he put all things under the feet of Jesus. He never put all things under the feet of Adam, he never put things under our feet. It is not in us. God never put it in any of us. We cannot even run our own lives how can we be capable of running this earth.

Study the book of Genesis verse by verse and also study the book of Ezekiel beginning at chapter 28 about Satan. Also read in Hebrews where it said that Jesus was made a little lower than the angels. Read in Philippines chapter 2 where he said let this mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus. He was talking about the mind that was in Jesus after he came to this earth as a man being found in the fashion of a servant. He humbled himself. He said over there before the crucifixion where he washed the disciples feet, he told them that I am among you as a servant. He never came here as a ruler, he never came here to lift himself up. He came here with a humble spirit. He said that I am meek and lowly. He was humble, he was a servant.

If we ever make it we are going to have to walk just like he walked, if you want to be like Jesus that is what you are going to have to do. To be humble and meek just like he did and to become a servant as he did.

Jesus is the only one that has been elevated to that state of being God. He is the only one that ever was and ever will. Do you know why Jesus was elevated to that place because he never wanted to be. He never said that he wanted to be God, and he never said that he was equal with God. The word said that when he was in the form of God in the beginning, when he was in heaven.

Then he created a fleshly world that matched the spiritual world that God made so they could be united as a man and wife and become one. He had power to create as God. When he said let us make man in our likeness and image. God made man in the likeness and his image, a spirit world, and his son made a fleshly world in his likeness and in his image because he was flesh. This fleshly world will some day marry the spiritual world. That is the marriage. Some day when we receive our glorified body from that spirit world and it swallows up this mortal body and we become one that is the marriage. The tree that had life in itself in Gen. 1 is that glorified body. The seed that had life in itself that is the husband.

That world marries this world.

That heavenly body marries this earthly body. We become one. Gods�?world marries Jesus�?world. God himself will come down and be our God. That means that God himself married this earth and puts Jesus as the King. The whole earth, the King and all subjects are considered one being. One unit to God and the heavenly world with God the Father being its head and all the heavenly hosts is the male part that marries the female part. The new heaven and the new earth. The Bride and the Bridegroom. Here comes the Bride and Bridegroom.

A deep glorious revelation and God is the only one that can show you this to you. Pray and search the scriptures and he will open your understanding to this message if you will allow him to. Study this out and allow God to open your understanding. Pray for me and I will also pray for you. May GOD BLESS.

 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/2/2008 12:11 AM

That is what the original sin was, wanting to be God. Let’s go into Ezekiel chapter 28 starting with vs. 1.

1. The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

2. Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, ( this is talking about Satan) Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, ( capital God) I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas;( this was the Kingdome of Satan coming upon the earth. He said I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas in other words he was saying I am down here on this earth amongst all these people and I am God. I see in the seat of God. See this is this spirit of Satan, wanting to be God is the original sin.) yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:


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