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Genesis : Day Two and Four
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 12/21/2007 7:00 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 11/9/2007 12:09 PM

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Verse one is the crucifixion of Jesus. I know everyone says this is a seven year tribulation, down at our time or the end of time. But this is man’s carnal thoughts. It does not fit any Scripture. No such thing is taught in Scripture. Man made this up, to cover up the fact that they did not know the truth and to fit their false doctrines.

At the time of his crucifixion, is when our deliverance was done. That is when we were delivered. Now verse two is not to be taken that it took place exactly when verse one took place. This is how most people miss the truth of the Word. They do not know how to divide Scripture. They just read it as if it is all one big story, all taking place in direct sequence. God does not speak that way.

Surely you all know that there is a long period of time between that first resurrection and the second? Notice that BOTH resurrections are spoken of in verse two, and in the same sentence, as if they took place right there together. But we know from Revelation, that this is not the case. So if that much time passes between those two resurrections, spoken of in one sentence, surely you know that much time could have passed between verse one and verse two?

But notice verse three. This reveals to us what the firmament and the stars of the firmament is. What? Who? They that be wise and turn many to righteousness. This is the true ministers of the New Testament. It speaks definitely about the Apostles. They are this firmament and they are these stars. Those twelve stars on the woman’s head are these apostles, not those twelve tribes of Israel.

Old Israel is NOT the way into this new heaven and new earth. Those Apostles, their doctrine, is. What did their teaching do? It separated those in darkness, or law, from those who came into Grace, or light. It separated those under the firmament from those above the firmament. It separated Satan’s waters, or peoples, from God’s peoples or waters.

It is still doing that job. It is still separating God’s people from Satan’s people. It is not complete yet. So the second day is not complete yet. It is still in progress. Where is this firmament? In the midst of the waters, or peoples of this world. Believe it or not, I know that what I am teaching now, is part of this firmament which is dividing the waters from the waters. I know that I am teaching the very same thing which the Apostles taught. I know that it is in the same power to separate waters from waters, light from darkness.

God called this firmament Heaven. Paul said we sit together in heavenly places. We sit in Heaven. The whore sits on the waters, the beast, the seven mountains. Theirs is the darkness or night. Ours is the Day or the light. Jesus told his disciples, You are the LIGHT of the world. You are a City set on a hill to give light to all who come in. We are the lights in this firmament. We are the stars in this firmament. Who? The true Christians who minister this truth. On Day four, God speaks again of this firmament.

Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Let these lights in the firmament be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years. Let them give light upon the earth. Jesus said ye are the light of the world.

Here is a bit of prophecy about these signs and wonders: Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Joe 2:30 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Mr 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Mr 16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen

Ac 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Ac 2:19 And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

Ac 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Ac 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Ac 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Ac 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Ac 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.

Ac 5:12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch

Ac 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.

Ac 14:3 Long time therefore abode they speaking boldly in the Lord, which gave testimony unto the word of his grace, and granted SIGNS and wonders to be done by their hands.

Ro 15:19 Through mighty SIGNS and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

2co 12:12 Truly the SIGNS of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in SIGNS, and wonders, and mighty deeds.

2th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and SIGNS and lying wonders,

Heb 2:4 God also bearing them witness, both with SIGNS and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

Now all of the above Scripture is MORE than enough to show anyone that this early Church of people who were endued with power from on high, were showing those signs and wonders which was spoken of in Gen. 1: 14. So the Holy Ghost filled Church is this firmament. They are the stars giving out this light to the world. It is truly spiritual and not carnal. This Firmament was spoken of in both Day Two and Day Four. Do you suppose that God did not finish it on day two? …and had to work some more on it in day four?



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/27/2007 2:29 AM
This is also part of the full message.  I will just leave it all for now.