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Ghost and Spirit are NOT PERSONS. there is no such thing written in the word of God as a 'PERSONALITY IN THE GODHEAD.'

Now if you think there is, please quote that verse here for me. I want to read that.

Now if you will do a search, you will see that Holy Ghost is NOT ONE TIME MENTIONED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.

Do you have any idea why? Of course you do not. You think it has something to do with old English words, or some different greek words. It has nothing to do with either. God does NOT MAKE MISTAKES OR ERROR.

If the KJF is full of error, it is not God's word at all, so why bother to read it. And if it is false, how much more are all the others false. Then you find yourself without one solid thing to stand on.

Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit are NOT THE SAME THING, AND NEITHER ONE IS A PERSONALITY.

In the OT, the only times ghost is mentioned [and I say if the word has something to do with a difference in usage in Hebrew or Greek or English, then why is it even rendered as ghost 11 times? Surely they knew the difference in the words, ghost and spirit?]

Holy Spirit is used only 3 times in the Old Testament. Each time ghost is mentioned in the OT, it is connected with someone dying; death.

God is a SPIRIT. It does not say God is a ghost, now does it? Do you think God is a ghost?

SPIRIT.....means a supernatural being or essence. It also means to give life to the physical organism.

But what about GHOST? Have any idea at the difference? No you do not. You have not sought God's Word and Spirit for this truth. You jumped all around in man's tales and junk for answers. Carnality! The carnal mind is DEATH.

Now. GHOST means the disembodied soul. : the seat of life or intelligence:.. the soul of a dead person believed to be an inhabitant of the unseen world or to appear to the living in bodily likeness.

Now that is from the Webster's Collegiate.

It fits what the word of God teaches.

Spirit, or Holy Spirit is God. it is the Father. He can send or place His Holy Spirit on certain people. But since it was only mentioned three times in the OT, it is something he did not do many times.

Now on the other hand, Ghost....is the disembodied soul, or the life or intelligence, of a dead person believed to be inhabiting the unseen world or to appear to the LIVING in bodily likeness. SOUND FAMILAR? It should if you ever read Acts 2.

The HOLY GHOST DECENDED IN FORM OF A DOVE!!!!! what was it? The disembodied soul of JESUS CHRIST.

True. and wonderful in its meaning. It is the POWER from on high to empower those disciples who stood true to Jesus. Jesus had told them, the things that I do SHALL YOU DO ALSO, because I go to my Father.

Why? Because then, AFTER GOD GAVE JESUS THE SAME POWER AND AUTHORITY AS GOD HIMSELF POSSESSES, TO GIVE LIFE TO WHOM HE WILL, AS DOES GOD, THEN JESUS HAD THE SAME ABILITY TO SEND HIS OWN..........GET THIS.....GR.....AND ALL OF YOU......GET THIS.....LISTEN AND LEARN TRUTH FROM GOD...NOT SOME LITERATURE OR TV BOOKS OR PROGRAM..........FROM GOD'S WORD.

TO SEND HIS OWN GHOST BACK INTO HIS DISCIPLES......CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE ENORMITY OF THIS? JESUS CHRIST SENT THE GHOST [DISEMBODIED SOUL] JESUS' OWN SOUL OR HIS OWN SEAT OF LIFE AND INTELLIGENCE.......BACK INTO HIS DISCIPLES!!!

GLORY TO MY GOD....... ! WHEW! THIS IS WHY PETER COULD NOW RAISE THE DEAD,,,,,,,AS JESUS HAD.....HE NOW HAD THE SOUL OF JESUS INSIDE HIMSELF!!!!

WOW. NOW PETER COULD HEAL PEOPLE JUST BY PASSING BY THEMMMMM.........POWER!!!!!! PAUL COULD ALSO RAISE THE DEAD....FOR NOW JESUS LIVED INSIDE HIM.... whew this is just about too much.

They could turn the world upside down, for Now Jesus lived inside them. It was unseen to this world. they saw the works but understood not how these natural men could accomplish these mighty deeds.......they knew Jesus had done these things.....but now these fishermen were healing everyone who asked for healing.....they were raising dead folks....they were doing might works and miracles...just as Jesus had done.

People you have no idea what you are doing when you mock this Holy Ghost. It is the very soul of JESUS CHRIST. It is not God the Father. It is not the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Ghost. the disembodied soul of a DEAD PERSON.

That is what the dictionary says. This dead person was JESUS. Yes, folks, he had to die before He could send this Holy ghost back onto us. We have received this ghose of Jesus because he had to first die, before he could send his disembodied intelligence back into us. It is the power from on high to annoint the Apostles and us to be His Witnesses.

Unless you can perform the supernatural, you do not have any Holy Ghost. It is certain that you do not have any Holy Spirit. God the Father does not send that to us. He gave us to His Son, Jesus.

Jesus sends us His soul, his intelligence. This is why he said the things which I do shall you do and more, because I go to my Father. After he went to his Father, he could then send his Ghost upon us.......for God gave Jesus the power God has.

Jesus is our God. It is his soul in us. Jesus lives inside me. It is the HOLY GHOST.

I will never deny this HOLY GHOST......FOR JESUS DIED TO GIVE IT TO ME.

People wake up! quit listening to carnal minds taking away your glory, your truth from you. Listen! If you have the Holy Ghost in you, It is Jesus Christ living inside you, in ghost form.

He had to die so it would be his ghost. the disembodied soul of a dead person. It did not come from the Father, for the Father never died.....indeed cannot die. So he is never said to have a Holy Ghost. His is the Holy Spirit.

Of course all of you who believe they are one and same person, or a trinity, of equal beings, you have no chance of seeing this great and wonderful truth.

Paul said it is CHRIST .......IN....YOU.......THE OR YOUR HOPE OF GLORY.

thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your Ghost to teach me your thoughts!

Jo Smith

9,/17/ 05

Jodi, Jesus was given the very same power and authority of the Living God. God set him there to rule as God. This is what confuses so many people into thinking that Jesus IS God. But no, Jesus is still God's SON.

Jesus said as the Father has life in himself. .. so has He given to me to have life in myself. see? same life; same way; same power; able to GIVE that life to others.

As the Father quickens [makes alive] so has he GIVEN to Jesus to be able to QUICKEN whom he will.

Also remember that we all have a SPIRIT body, eternal in the Heavens.

So did Jesus......and that Spirit body is the HOLY GHOST. Jesus was given this Spirit at his baptism. A few people had this Spirit, Holy Ghost Before the initial outpouring at Pentecost. These people were brought into the NT Covenant....... Elizabeth, Mary, and Zacharias.

Now, since we belong to Jesus....for God gave us to Jesus....then Jesus is our God.

Jesus is the one who fills us with His Spirit, the Holy Ghost.

Yes. His Spirit, the HOLY GHOST can be sent to others while he himself is still filled with the same Spirit.

See, when the Lord God placed his Spirit upon Jesus to anoint him, God still had his Spirit, didn't he?

He did not rid himself of His Spirit in order to send it to Jesus.

Jesus does not rid himself of His Holy Ghost in order to send it to us.

He gives us of His Spirit, just as God gave of his Spirit, to Jesus. Am I making this clear?

Only with Jesus, his Spirit is called a GHOST, for Jesus died in order to give us of that spirit. God, the Father has never died. He cannot die for he is a Spirit. Jesus was a human man. He was given the Holy Ghost so he was filled with that Spirit, but he was still a human man, just as we are.

See how wrong this teaching of Jesus being God is? It cannot be true in any kind of Way. It would make the entire truth of God wrong. God cannot die.

Jesus gave up the GHOST AND DIED. The word 'ghost' is mentioned several times in the OT. Always it is in connection with someone dying.

Holy Ghost is not mentioned in OT Scripture. It is truly the soul of Jesus sent back to us. And most people mock this Holy Ghost and dispise the sound of the words. I love them.

They think they can baptize in the name of the father, thus rebelling from being under the authority of Jesus. We cannot invoke the name or power of the Father. Only Jesus is allowed to do this. See how the ignorant false teaching of man changes all of this?

Jodi, this thing of the 'soul' being separate from us, the person, is part of the revelation God is teachng me right now. It is in with the notes I wrote on few nights ago, when I was up until 5am. but I need some more on it yet before I bring it out.

thanks for you interest in truth.

I find this study very interesting. would like to lern more about it.

Isaiah 44:3 - For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:

Joel 2:28 - And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Joel 2:29 - And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Zechariah 12:10 - And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

A fountain was opened for everyone to drink from this fountain. This fountain opened is the pierced side of Christ. It is opened for all believers. Do you want to drink from the fountain? Still there is plenty of water at the fountain. There is a well there that will never run dry. The spring that will never run dry. The new spring that will never grow old. Behold a fountain opened for us to wash in, and streams flowing to us from that fountain..

There Is A River

There came a sound from Heaven,
Like a rushing mighty wind,
It filled their hearts with singing,
And gave them peace within,
The Prophet gave this promise,
The Spirit will descend,
And from your inner being,
A river with no end.

There is a river
That flows from deep within,
There is a fountain
That frees the soul from sin,
Come to this water,
There is a vast supply,
There is a river
That never shall run dry.

There was a thirsty woman,
Who was drawing from a well,
Her life was ruined and wasted,
Her soul was bound for hell,
Then she met the Master,
Who told of her great sin,
And if you drink this water,
You'll never thirst again.

There is a river
That flows from God above,
There is a fountain
That's filled with His great love,
Come to this water
There is a vast supply,
There is a river
That never shall run dry.

John 4: ⁷There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.

⁸(For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)

⁹Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

¹⁰Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

¹¹The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

¹²Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?

¹³Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:

¹⁴But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

¹⁵The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.

Joh 7:38

He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly SHALL FLOW rivers of living water.

Joh 7:37

In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

Joh 6:34

Then said they unto him, Lord, EVERMORE give us this bread.

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