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Gifts of Spirit : Freeborn is bad stuff..so says many folks
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 6/25/2008 9:56 PM
Larry, do you remember this?  I just found it in our back, way back, pages.  It is delightful.  I got a real good laugh reading this again, and thought you might too.  I changed the title, to draw attention.
 
Hope lots of folks read this.  I mean read it all.  It is so true.  It is what beffers,  false bishop, and loads of others say about joie, aka, freeborn, and loads of others.  lol.
 
I claim to be in the same boat with Mr. Paul.
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From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 8/22/2003 5:14 PM

 I found this to be on the funny side but yet so still true.

MYSTERY BABYLON DENOMINATION

FOREIGN MISSIONS BOARD

Rev. Saul Paul

First Christian Church

Antioch, Syria

Dear Mr. Paul:

I have your application for missionary appointment before me, and will be as frank as possible concerning your qualifications as a foreign missionary. We have to be very careful in choosing our missionaries, and our Missions Board has reviewed your case thoroughly. We have decided that it would be unwise to send you to the foreign field for the following reasons:

1. It has come to our attention that you are doing secular work on the side. We do not feel that making tents and full time ministry go together very well. It seems that you do not have enough experience in trusting the Lord for your income. You should make up your mind whether you want to preach or continue your profession.

2. Your previous actions have been very rash and unseemly for a minister. We learned that in a public meeting you opposed Dr. Simon Peter, an esteemed minister with a high reputation. We also hear that you argued so violently with some of our ministers that a special council meeting had to be called at Jerusalem to prevent a serious split in the churches. We frown on such radicalism. For your own good, I am enclosing a copy of Daius' Carnegus book on "How to Win Jews and Influence Greeks. "

3. We understand that you do not agree with all the points in our constitution end by-laws, and do not even believe in all our doctrines. In checking back, we discovered your Christian education consisted of a three year course in Arabia. We find that the Arabian school has not been approved by our accreditation board and we hear that there are some strange unknown doctrines being taught in that school. We also hear a rumor that; you are a snake handler. Such a reputation could only hurt the true cause of Christ and the Church. We don't have all the details on that episode at Melita, but we understand you claimed immunity to harm from snake bite through a promise of Christ. It has come to the attention also that you preach much about "the Power of God ", and "the gifts of the Spirit". Also that you speak in tongues a great deal.

Surely you realize that such as this only drives off the better class of people, and attracts only the riff-raff. It would be better to tone down those more sensational forms of worship. You sound as though you are "off the deep end", and it has been proven to our satisfaction that you had hands laid on you at Antioch with prophecy going forth, with none of the Apostles or Headquarters brethren present to conduct this ordination services in the prescribed manner. You must remember that prophecy is a dangerous thing unless handled properly, end we fear that you are associated with that "so called New order of the Early Rain". Stay away from that brand, it could ruin your ministry.

4. We see here that you have a jail record in several places. If this is true, it puts you in a bad light, for our denomination has always stood for a high standard of holiness, and I fear it would damage our reputation to have someone representing us that had served time in jails and prisons. Frankly, Mr. Paul, we seriously doubt you could have been innocent and the judge wrong in so many cases. It just doesn't look right.

5. It seems that you are a trouble maker Mr. Paul. Several business men of Ephesus have written us that you were the cause of severe loss of business to them and even stirred mob violence. You must learn to cultivate the friendship and influence of men such as these. We also have some details of a lurid"over the wall in a basket" episode at Damascus, plus a stoning at Lystra, and several other violent actions taken against your ministry. Haven't you ever suspected that concilliatory behavior and gentler words might gain you more friends? We have never condoned such sensationalism in the ministry. This is just not the type of ministers that we send out. We have learned through channels that following some trouble with a preacher on the island of Cyprus, you had to change your name. This does not seem to us to be conduct becoming to the ministry.

6. You admitted in your application that in the past you neglected such needy fields as Bithynia, just because "the Spirit didn't lead that way", and that you undertook a hazardous journey on the strength of a dream you had at Troas. Mr. Paul, surely you don’t expect us to go along with such flimsy and fantastic excuses for your seemingly purposeless wanderings. Many times you did not stay long enough, in our opinion, to get a church established. You left your converts many times without even a pastor to guide them, and without setting the church in order ins some good fundamental denomination. We hear also from Troas that you preach too long, one sermon lasting almost twenty-four hours, even to the extent that a young man fell asleep and was seriously injured. We Understand that you claim to have restored his life and raised him from the dead by falling on him and embracing him.

What nonsense! If the man was injured, you should have called in a competent physician and had a rigid physical examination made. And instruct the church to carry sufficient liability insurance to take care of a situation like that. We need practical men in the ministry, Mr. Paul, not high strung emotional radicals. our advice is for you to shorten your sermons considerably. We find that about twenty minutes is the longest a minister can hold the attention of his audience these days. our motto is "Stand up, speak up, and shut up".

7. We understand from your own home church that you could not get along with your fellowministers, that John Mark, a commendable young man and nephew of one of our leading ministers, had to leave your party in the middle of a journey, and that you had a violent quarrel with gentle, good natured Barnabas. Now these men are well thought of in Jerusalem, and we wonder why you are always having trouble with your fellow workers ? We have notarized affidavits from three fine brethren, Diotrephes, Demas, and Alexander, to the effect that it is impossible for them to co-operate with either you or your program. From what we hear, you seem to have a self-exalted spirit, boasting about your revelations and that God has chosen you to reveal some "new Mystery". Can't you realize that any new truth that is to be revealed would come through Headquarters to the recognized, more mature brethren, and that after it had been checked by our Procedure and Doctrine Committee that we would pass it on to the ministry? On top of all that, we hear that you are claiming to be an Apostle. We know nothing of this being passed upon by the proper authoritative channels, and wonder how you could back that claim up, when the last Apostle was voted into office right here in Jerusalem. That is a dangerous doctrine Mr. Paul, and I advise you to forget it.

As you see, Mr. Paul, we feel definitely after close scrutiny of your case, that you are undoubtedly the most unqualified applicant we have ever seen, and my advice for you is to find a church where you can work in harmony, and use your past education as perhaps a Sunday School teacher. I hope I have prevented you from making a terrible mistake in your life.

Most sincerely yours,

J. Flavios Fluffyhead

SECY.

Joie have you ever heard some of this?

 

 



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/25/2008 10:00 PM
p.s.  the above post was originally titled:  Rejected, by Bill Britton, as Larry found this in Bro Britton's teachings.
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Here is my response  (for the sake of those who jump off the deep end and make up evil for this kind of stuff....it was all in fun.)
 
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From: joie Sent: 8/23/2003 12:29 AM

Dear Mr Larry,

You are undoubtly the most UNQUALIFIED Manager I have ever set up!   You have acted in  an ungodly manner here in placing such a piece of rifraff on this here board witout the approval of the more qualified and experienced managers here on dis here bottf bd.

How dare you insinuate that our high sounding counsel has made a mistake on Mr Paul's unseemly actions?  He is a most hotheaded trouble maker and we cannot let such actions as his and yours stand on this here dignified board.  You are being very unresponsible in such actions as to post such an outragious message from another high trouble maker, Mr Bill Britton.  It has been brought to our attention that Mr Britton is telling people to leave our churches and get out into some desert off all by themselves; without our qualified leadership.

Now I see that Mr Paul, Mr Britton and yourself are all three of a kind.  We cannot and will not condone such rash actions from a new manager.  You must go before our board and ask permission to post such wonderful, delightful and truthful messages which will undoublty expose our own hypocrite lives and actions against being led by the Holy Ghost. 

We are very much against this CHARISMATIC mess of speaking in tongues in these here donominational churches.  We are the cream of the crop, and we will not tolorate such enlightening actions as you have demonstrated here in publishing this indictiment against us by Mr Bill Britton.

That man crossed all our by-laws, as did Mr Paul.  And I have heard that you teach baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins just as Mr Paul does.  We cannot and will not tolorate such trash in our club.  Even though it has come to our ears that Mr Peter has also delved into this heresy, we know at least he is still staying put in Jerusalem.  It is this Mr Paul and Mr Britton and also yourself you are guilty of trying to take this heresy to the whole world.  So on the strength of this unresponsible actions of yours, that we must call for your resignation from this here board of managers; as of rite now.

Yes, that joie on your mangerial board has also been guilty of all the same crimes against organized religion as you and Mr Paul have.  she is one of the very worst.  She also teaches that Jesus is NOT GOD.  Can you imagine this evil.  We killed God and you all know it.

And it has come to our ears that she also teaches this foolishness of speaking in tongues when one receives the Holy Ghost.  She also advocates quitting going to worldly doctors in favor of prayer for the sick.  Such FOOLISHNESS.  We all know that God gave our modern day doctores the ability to heal.  Prayer for the sick passed out of existance 2,000 years ago.

So on the evidence against her, we must also call for her resignation.  It has been stated against her by thousands of past members of her board that she is a trouble maker denying the trinity, the church membership, the salvation by only believing, teaching speaking in tongues, and worst of all denies the Saturday Sabbath.

Now in sight of all this, she is very definitely unqualified to teach the word of God or manage this here board.

CASE  CLOSED.

Out wit the vermits, Mr Paul, Mr Bill Britton, Mr Larry, and that troublemaker, a woman who dares to state that she can teach the word of God.  We all know that God forbids his daughters to teach.  So throw her out on her head.

 
   

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/25/2008 10:01 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©</NOBR> Sent: 8/23/2003 12:50 AM
well yall it was fun while it lasted. I had been told time and time not to fool with dat crazy woman and not to believe att that mess she was talking about. not only has it got me dismanager but it got pore ole Bill that is in the grave in trouble. well bill i hope you know that you started dis mess, and i guess i should not ever got dat there link from Hoss. Hoss u in trouble to. By the way do u preach that thing about baptism in the name of Jesus with receiving the Holy SPirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues? well if you do bie to you to.   
 
also do u say those ole 10 commandments are for us today? well paul and me and bill got pore mouth fer teaching agaist that thing and because we wer trying to say if you go back to dat law u done gone and u done messec uself up and u have fallen uself from grace.
 
FOLKS IT WAS NICE AND I WILLS MISS YALL . YALL PRAY FER ME HERE YALL.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/25/2008 10:02 PM
From: joie Sent: 8/23/2003 1:13 AM
yall pray fur me too, since me is been rejected also on de same grounds as Mr Paul, Mr Britton, and Mr Larry.
They threw me out on me little head and now it is hurting too bad to write anymore cute letters to you all.
 
So me may go on to meet my new found friend, Mr Bill Britton real soon; for they gave me a big bump on me head when all dose law keepers ganged up on me.
 
But me thinks me teaching on tongues just as Mr Paul did ,is the main problem wit all the denominations church leaders.  They have ousted me from me country and told everyone that i is de worst trouble maker ever to hit these gorgeous shores of Internet groups.
 
So bye to all uv you truth seekers.  Maybe Mr Larry can help youse out a little more before they throw him out on hes head also.
 
used to-be-manager  uv  BOTTF.
joie

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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 6/26/2008 12:54 AM
I be dawg, whys iz me still here. forgot i was dismembered.  

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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 6/26/2008 12:56 AM
or dismanagered.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/27/2008 9:49 PM
well, seems you lasted, but poor old joie had to go..dey messed wit her password, and made her havta go.  well freeborn done took over de job.
 
dis is still cute as can be.  me has done jest read it all again.  just loves it.  but if certain hateful vermits come around and seeze it, dey will condemn us to internet hell fur having a bit uv fun and not speaking curruct english all de time,  even do we both knowx it good as dey doze.
 

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