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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 11/22/2006 1:21 AM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 12/23/2002 8:34 PM
 

The word ‘FLESH�?has been so misunderstood in the Word of God, that it is causing many to completely miss the true meaning about one of the most important things in all the Word.

This verse, 1Tim.3:16--- is one of those teachings being twisted out of its real meaning by misunderstanding this word ‘flesh�? in it’s Scriptual meaning.

To really understand what is meant by this verse you must first find out what God meant by ‘flesh�? In order to do this, read Romans 8:9----But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you....

Now, it said you are not in the FLESH if Christ be in you. So, is this saying you are not in your human body?? No! Of course not! So what does it mean? Remember, you must find Scriptual answers; Scriptual meanings.

John 6:53---Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the FLESH of the Son of man, and DRINK his BLOOD, ye have no life in you.

v54---Whoso eateth my FLESH, and DRINKETH my BLOOD, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day..

v55---For my FLESH is MEAT indeed, and my BLOOD is DRINK indeed.

v56---He that EATETH my FLESH, and drinketh my BLOOD, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

v57---As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that EATETH me, even he shall live by me.

v58---This is that BREAD which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this BREAD shall live forever.

Now, Jesus told them over and over they (we) must EAT his FLESH and DRINK his BLOOD in order to have eternal life. Do you think that flesh is his human body? If so, how are we going to take and eat his human body? How are we going to get some of his blood from his human body and drink it? Unless you do this, you have no life in you.

Now remember Romans 8 said you are NOT in the flesh if Christ is in you. So here the flesh could not be speaking of your human body; for you surely know that you are still in your body; for if you are not in your body, you would be dead.

Look back at v 6---For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

v7---Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

v8---So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Now don’t you see, that this could not mean if you are in your human body, you can not please God? For then, how could anyone ever please God? You would have to die and be out of your human body, if that is what he is speaking of.

But, he said he means a MIND. So, then the FLESH is a MIND; A THOUGHT; A WORD. It can be either a carnal MIND or a spiritual MIND. That is the FLESH he is meaning. The FLESH is A MIND. THE KIND OF MIND, THINKING YOU HAVE.

Now, go to John 1:14---And the Word was made FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

So this grace and truth is a MIND. This FLESH is a MIND; WORD.

Now put all that together. It will clearify what is meant by eating his flesh; it means to understand his Word; to read or hear and understand his Word. His Word is his Flesh he said we must eat. Eat = understand; feed off it; take it into our mind. This gives us a spiritual mind which gives us life. See, to be spiritual minded is life; to be carnal minded is death. So, we must EAT his WORDS (FLESH) to have eternal life.

Now, take that and apply it to 1Tim.3:16-----when it said God was manifest in the FLESH, it does not mean Jesus�?human body; it means the Word that He gave us; this was his flesh we are to eat.

So, he manifest God in the Word. God is the Word. The Word is God. The Word was made FLESH and dwelt among us. That is how he was God with us; it was the Word in him. The Word did not die; for indeed it can not. His Word is forever established in Heaven. In the beginning was the Word; this was NOT the human man, Christ Jesus. It was the FLESH of God = His Word; the spiritual mind.

God sent that spiritual mind, the Word, here in his Son, Jesus. That is what Jesus said we must eat to have life; not his human body.

This is the great mystery. This Word, this mind, this FLESH, was justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Now don’t you see, that if it is speaking of the human body of Jesus, it could not have said it was ‘preached unto the Gentiles�? for Jesus had already gone up to Heaven before the Word was preached to Gentiles. What was PREACHED to the Gentiles? The WORD OF GOD; this is the FLESH; this is the BREAD; this is the SPIRITUAL MIND; this is the LIFE; this is the LIGHT.

Don’t you see that he said this is the BREAD? Bread is food. Meat is food. So, if it is something to eat, then eating must mean something other than what we do at our dinner tables. It is feeding our minds. It is reading, taking into our souls and minds the WORD of God. So, the Word is God, the Word is the FLESH we must eat. This is how God was manifest in the FLESH; IT WAS THE WORD.

If you can’t see this truth, this clearly explained, you really need to pray and do some serious studying.

If you believe it means the man Jesus, when it said God was manifest in the flesh, then please take that concept, of eating his FLESH and teach it and all these Scriptures in this message. When it said the Word was made FLESH, if you think that means the man Jesus, then please explain to us how we are to eat that flesh. For we must eat it in order to have eternal life.

Now all you people using (or rather misusing) 1Tim.3:16--- to try to say that Jesus was God, please explain how we are not in our flesh if the Spirit of God is in us. How did that take me out of my body? How are we to eat the body of Jesus? You must find the answer to these verses in the ‘light�?of the flesh meaning Jesus�?human body. Or else, you must come to see that this is not what is meant by saying God was manifest in the flesh. Thy Word, oh God, is forever settled in Heaven. Amen.

 

 
 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 11/22/2006 1:21 AM
From: joie Sent: 12/23/2002 8:36 PM
This is one of my first messages in this community.  It is very much needed by all today. Many of you misunderstand the word 'flesh' according to the Scriptures, and that is why you miss the real truth of who Jesus was.
 
Please take the time to study this if you really desire truth.  Print these long messages out and study them of the internet. YOu will get much more good out of them that way.
 
Hope someone gets the truth of this message.
 
Jo

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 Message 3 of 3 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 11/22/2006 1:22 AM
From: joie Sent: 3/5/2003 10:29 PM
Here is another message on this vital subject which should really clear all of this up for you.  See I wrote this a long time ago; sent it back one time.  still no one has dealt with this.  If you want truth, study this.  Take it to the Word.  Prove all things by the Word.

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From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©</NOBR> Sent: 9/23/2004 3:43 AM
Prove all things by the Word.