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God and Jesus : In the Mouth of Two Witnesses
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 11/22/2006 1:26 AM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 5/24/2003 12:42 PM

  

~~ In The Mouth Of Two Witnesses ~~

God has a law that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established. That truth is carried over into the New Testament. So it is still true today. Unless you have at least two ‘witnesses�?for every word, it is not established as TRUTH.

Every person needs to learn this principle. If you have only one occurrence of any particular event or only one Scripture saying a thing, it is not proven to be true. It is not established by God. God always establishes a thing with at least two witnesses.

So with that said think about the things in the Word, which you think only happened one time. Virgin birth for instance. God making Moses a God for instance. If these two things have only one witness of its happening, then it is NOT established by God to be a truth.

So with this principle before us, why would anyone think that I am belittling Jesus to say there was another virgin born son? This is the ONLY way it is established to be truth, is that it happened at least twice.

You might say then, well there was only one crucifixion for sins. Well, think about the countless sheep and goats that died for the sins of the people in the O.T. This could not actually take away their sins permanently, but it did put them off for a year at a time. And besides this, think of the many times someone gave their lives for the lives of others. See the sacrifice for sins is certainly accounted for with more than one witness.

There were even two creations. I have already taught this community that truth. So see, those who claim only one creation are making God’s law of needing at least two witnesses to establish a truth be a lie.

There is more than one heaven and more than one earth. God even says that there are seven spirits of God. See this �? and only 1�?theory will not hold up anywhere in God’s Word.

I taught the two virgin births fully in the Emmanuel message. You should go back and study that message. It is one of the most powerful messages on this earth. I don’t believe even Paul had anything any greater.

Isaiah 8

1. Moreover the Lord said unto me, Take thee a great roll, and write in it with a man's pen concerning Mahershalalhashbaz.

2. And I took unto me faithful witnesses to record, Uriah the priest, and Zechariah the son of Jeberechiah.

3. And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived, and bare a son. Then said the Lord to me, Call his name Mahershalalhashbaz.

4. For before the child shall have knowledge to cry, My father, and my mother, the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria shall be taken away before the king of Assyria.

Now read this passage carefully. God revealed this Scripture to me in 1980. Isaiah said he took faithful witness to RECORD this event of the birth of Mahershalalhashbaz. God spoke to Isaiah and told him to take a great roll and write in it with a man’s pen concerning this child. Why? Why would God tell Isaiah to take FAITHFUL witnesses to record this thing about the birth of this child? Why?

Notice Isaiah took two witnesses to record this event. See he stayed true to God’s principle of needing at least two witnesses to prove a thing true. So this is such an important thing happening about Mahershalalhashbaz, that God told Isaiah to take faithful witnesses to record this event.

Do you know of any other such event? Do you know of any other birth in which God told a person to take two witnesses to record the conception of the child? If you do, I would like to hear it.

Why do you suppose this is that important to God and Isaiah?

Now verse 3. And I went unto the prophetess, and she conceived, and bare a son.

Now Isaiah did NOT say I went IN unto the prophetess. That is how the KJV always puts it when it means the man and woman had marital relations. It said Isaac went IN unto Rebecca and she became his wife. It is all through the Word this way.

BUT Isaiah did not say he went IN unto the prophetess. He only said he went unto her. You have to watch the Word of God very carefully. Every Word in the Book is of importance. That is also why it is so important to believe and accept that every word is correct.

If you go unto a person or place, you only mean that you go to where that person or place is. Now be sensible, if Isaiah were going to have sexual relations with this prophetess, I ask you WHY DID HE TAKE THOSE FAITHFUL WITNESSES TO RECORD THIS EVENT? WHY DID GOD TELL HIM TO TAKE FAITHFUL WITNESSES TO RECORD THIS CONCEPTION AND BIRTH?

For the answer you must go back to the prophesy in Isaiah 7: 10. Moreover the Lord spake again unto Ahaz, saying,

11. Ask thee a sign of the Lord thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above.

12. But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the Lord.

13. And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?

14. Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

15. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.

16. For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.

At the time of this prophesy the king of Israel and the king of Syria were joined together to overthrow Ahaz, king of Judah. God had sent Isaiah to tell king Ahaz not to worry about this. He also told Ahaz to ask a sign of God that he would protect Ahaz from them. The sign was that a virgin would conceive and bear a son and that before that child was old enough to cry my father and my mother and to refuse the evil and choose the good, both of those lands would be forsaken of both her kings.

8. For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore-and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.

9. And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is Remaliah's son. If ye will not believe, surely ye shall not be established.

Now see that he said this would happen within 65 years? So this virgin born child had to have been within that 65-year period. It was Mahershalahbaz. Those faithful witnesses were there to prove to Ahaz that Isaiah had NOT touched that prophetess but that this child was virgin born.

Ahaz was a type of Christ. Those two nations wanting to overthrow Ahaz and set up another king in Judah types the world trying to make the human man Jesus the king instead of the resurrected Christ. The apostles were continually trying to talk Jesus into doing this. But he refused.

Even though Jesus was conceived in the womb of Mary by the Holy Ghost, a virgin birth, it still is NOT THE FULFILLMENT of Isaiah 7: 14. I know Jesus was virgin born, but this is not the virgin it speaks of as being with child and bringing forth a Son upon whom the government shall rest.

This virgin was Jesus. Yes. That is the answer. Within Jesus was the seed of God growing to produce the very first Begotten Son of God in the image of God. This was the resurrected Christ. This was the virgin born ‘Son�?of Jesus. Each of us have within us the Seed Word of God which is growing to produce at our resurrection a son of God in the image of His dear Son, Jesus Christ.

Mahershalahbaz was the type of this. For everything there has to be a type in the O.T. There has to be two witnesses of this. He was the sign to Ahaz, which had to be fulfilled within 65 years of that prophecy. He was the proof that virgin birth did happen.

Now for the shocker! If God could produce a human being inside a women with only his Word, and that person be a full human being, he most certainly could do it a second time. And that is exactly what happened.

This is the truth the whole world has missed because of going by the teaching of the whore church. They claim that Jesus was God. But it is just not true. Jesus was fully human, made in all points like unto his brethren. Now it had to be just like with Mahershalahabaz because of the need for two witnesses.

See then that the resurrected Christ being the first begotten Son of God in the likeness and image of God is the first happening of this. Those who are virgins to God here in this life, following the lamb wheresoever he goes, we will come forth at our resurrection the second witness of that virgin born Son of God. We will come forth in the likeness of the resurrected Son of God, Jesus Christ.

Jesus born of Mary was a full human being. He died. He went into hell. This was not God. This was fully human. This was the second human born to a virgin.

Then Jesus was resurrected into the GLORY of God the Father = glorified. This was the first time anyone had been born from the dead. This was the very first virgin born Son of God, coming forth from the dead into new life.

When we are resurrected like unto him, we will be the second virgin born Son of God, born from the dead.

People, if this doesn’t trill your soul, I just don’t see how you could be a child of God!

Now I know this is getting very long, but as I have said so many times, how in this world are you going to teach such things in only a few words?

Now I will show you the first witness of God making a man a God.

The first witness of this was Moses.

Read Ex. 4. Here we find that God told Moses to go to the children of Israel and lead them out of Egypt. But Moses was fearful that they would not listen to him. He also told God that he could not speak well. God told Moses that he would be with his mouth and give him what to say. But still Moses was afraid. At this God became angry with Moses. See? Moses was doubtful of God being able to make him speak well. I think Moses was overly concerned with his Human appearance here.

At this God told Moses that He would let Aaron His brother do the speaking for Moses. He said: verse 16. And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.

So Aaron became Moses�?mouth. Moses became Aaron’s God. So when the word speaks of the beast having a ‘mouth�?it means the people who speak for the beast. We became God’s mouth here.

Exodus 7

1. And the Lord said unto Moses, See I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

2. Thou shalt speak all that I command thee: and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he send the children of Israel out of his land.

Now here we have the Lord telling Moses that he had made Moses a god to Pharaoh, and that Aaron was Moses�?prophet!

Now there you have two Scriptural proofs that God made Moses a God.

Now if this happened there, (and it did)-- that God made a human man God, then there HAS to be another occurrence of this event! For it is not established unless there are two witnesses of it.

So where did God make another human being God?

Hebrews 1.1. God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

3. Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

4. Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

6. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, and let all the angels of God worship him.

7. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

8. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Now this says that the only begotten was the express image of God’s person. But when was this? Not when Mary birthed Jesus. Nope. For the Word plainly declares that Jesus was made LOWER than the angels for the suffering of death.

But notice here that it said (verse 4) that he was made so much BETTER than the angels. When? When He was brought into the world as the only begotten Son of God. That was at his resurrection. That was when He was given the brightness of His glory.

See John 1:14 declares that when the Word was made FLESH was when we beheld his GLORY as the only begotten of the Father. His Glory according to Romans 1 is when he is uncorruptible. Being mortal and corruptible is NOT GLORY.

We beheld His Glory in the only begotten Son of God. So this had to be at the resurrection. That is when the Word was made flesh.

Go back and read the above Scripture in Hebrews 1. It said this is when God set Jesus as God. He told all the angels to worship him now. God called himself God to Jesus and called Jesus God. (V9).

If you can’t see this, you need to pray for some understanding. Study it until you see it if you want to love the truth. Else you will believe a lie and be damned.

If you say the mortal man Jesus was this glory you make God a lie.

Romans 1: 23. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Now can’t you see from this that the glory is that of being UNCORRUPTIBLE? Jesus was corruptible before his resurrection. He was mortal; else he could not have died.

So to say he was God then is to be guilty of this in Romans 1: 23. You change the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image like corruptible man. Jesus was a corruptible man.

The resurrected Christ is alive forevermore. He received glorification, the image of God at his resurrection. Now he is alive never to see death anymore. Glory! This is when the virgin in Isaiah 7 birthed that virgin born Son of God, the day of Jesus�?resurrection!

I can tell you, carnal minded people will never be given this great revelation, but it is FOOD FOR THE SHEEP OF GOD.

Evermore Lord; Feed me thy bread from Heaven. Feed me till I want no more. Feed me till I overflow my banks and out of my belly shall flow Rivers of living Water to give a drink to a thirsty and weary soul.

Glory to my God! Jesus Christ is my God. His Father is his God. They are my God. I love them. I love THEM.

 

 

 

 

 



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 11/22/2006 1:29 AM
From: joie Sent: 5/26/2003 9:54 PM

I would love to see some more of our members get into these studies and study with us.  If you feel you can't help teach these things, then ask questions.  Or just make some comments.  Let us know you are at least reading these things.

Don't miss this opportunity to learn the deep hidden mysteries of God's Word which He is revealing now.  The Witch, that whore church has covered up all these great truths with her lies.  Forget her and get to Jesus and the truth.  Else you will believe a lie and be damned.

I am warning you over and over about this.  God has told me to warn you it is dangerous to believe a lie.  You will lose your soul 

 
   

Wow.  I am finding some great messages which we had way back.  Glad to see all of these things again.  Still not finding the one I am looking for, but it is always good when I go 'fishing' in the way back pages.  We have taught enough truth in Build on the True Foundation to save this whole world.

Yet who hears?