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God and Jesus : Abraham saw his day
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 12/3/2006 3:32 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameIsaiah·</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 6/17/2003 4:21 PM

Now my question is when was this day?

The question was- Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. When was this? 
 
First of all we must realize that this is spiritual and not natural.
To see Means to know, get knowledge of, understand, perceive.
It is not  meaning to see  with your natural eyes  as sometimes we think.
 
To see my day is saying that he came to the light.  Day means light.  It is just like when Jesus opened the apostles understanding,  he opened their eyes.  In other words they saw just as Abraham did.
 
Gen 22:2   And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
 
John 3
16   For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Gen. 22:3
And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and saddled his ass, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son, and clave the wood for the burnt offering, and rose up, and went unto the place of which God had told him.
22:4 -
Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off. ( Now  how many knows what happened on the third day?)
Mr 9:31
For he taught his disciples, and said unto them *, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.

So this is the day  that Abraham saw afar off.   The heavenly world, the New Testament  where Jesus was crucified and rose on  the third day.

22:5

 And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you. ( Now what did Jesus say?) 

 

John 14
3   And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.the notion whom

22:6   And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together. ( Now once again let's  compare it to Jesus)

Isaiah 53:4  Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

22:7   And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?
8   And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together. (See this was a prophecy of the day of Jesus)

This day was the scripture fulfilled-

Joh 1:36
And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

We also know that this was a type and shadow of things to come-
Abraham as God, Isaac as Jesus.
So this was the day that Abraham saw.




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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/3/2006 3:34 AM
From: joie Sent: 6/18/2003 11:16 PM
Isaiah,  That is such a wonderful message.  So full of spiritual food.  It fed my soul.
 
Yes, that is how Abraham 'saw' Jesus' day,  He saw from that experience and revelation the day Jesus would die for all of us and rise again the third day.
 
Also here he showed that Jesus was God's Lamb.  How do people get that a lamb was God?  that Lamb died on the cross  ------ so  to say he was God is to say God DIED ON A CROSS.
 
UHH   people, wake up.  God DID NOT EVER DIE.  IT IS BLASPHEMOUS TO SAY SUCH A THING.
 
Jesus was a human man;  not God.  YOu think I am terrible to say this; but right the opposite is true.  For I am staying true to the Word of God.
 
God said if you believe not that Jesus was God's Son, You call God a lie, for you believe not the record that God gave of his SON,  NOT OF HIMSELF.
 
People think those Jews thought Jesus was God.  But look what they  REALLY thought:
 
John 8: 48-- Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou are a Samaritan, and  HAST A DEVIL.
 
Now that dear readers is what those Jews Really thought of Jesus.   Never one time did they confess that Jesus was God.  They  ACCUSED JESUS OF SAYING THIS.
 
Why? For they knew this was killing grounds!  They bore FALSE WITNESS OF HIM.  They lied about him

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/3/2006 3:34 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameIsaiah·</NOBR> Sent: 6/19/2003 10:23 AM
Gen 22:6   And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.( This is a type and shadwow of Jesus bearing the cross and a type of our sins that was put on him.
John 19:17
And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:
1Pe 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

But if you will notice the sacifice was not offered at that time. Issac was just a shadwo of the great saccifice that was to be offered. The sacifice was not offered until Jesus came along. The only perfect sacifice.

Gen 22:10   And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.
11   And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.


12   And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
13   And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/3/2006 3:35 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameIsaiah·</NOBR> Sent: 6/19/2003 3:03 PM
Gen 22:8   And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.( also see that Issac was willing to go as Jesus was, because it said they went both of them together. If  Issac had not been willing he could have refused, but he went willingly. So they both received this on faith.
 
See the prophecy was that God would provide the sacifice. He was to provide a lamb not a ram. Also God was not the sacifice himself as some say. His Son Jesus Christ was. He said he would provide a lamb not provide himself as a lamb. I hope you see the difference here.
Ro 4:13
For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Ro 9:7
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Ga 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Heb 11:17
By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

 

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