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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©  (Original Message)Sent: 9/18/2006 4:41 PM

* William Branham’s teachings: True or false? *

Today is Monday, Aug. 2, 2004. I am going to show a few of the teachings of William Branham today and compare them with the Written Word of God. The reason for this message is that there are millions of souls deceived by this man’s teachings and the man himself. Most of his followers call him an OT type prophet to whom we must go to receive the Word of God. But what saith the Scripture on this matter? Now that is all that counts = is it the truth or not? Is it according to the Word of God or man’s false teachings?

According to the NT teachings, we are all ONE. This means we are all on equal grounds. It means we may all come before God and receive from Him. We do not need any prophet going between God and us. That was OT Law stuff. If you go back to that, you fall from grace. Under grace we are ALL kings and priests to God for ourselves. Jesus is our only high priest. We need no prophet to tell us the Word of God. We need not that any man teach us IF we have God’s anointing spirit within us. Under grace we do not esteem one above another. If you hold one above another, as they do this man Branham, then you have fallen from grace back to OT Law and will be lost. To show partiality is sin. Only under law does one rule over another; not in grace. We are to love and respect any and all members of the body of Christ just the same as any other member. If not, you are not under grace.

After John the Baptist, there are no more OT type prophets who give the Word of God out to others. Proof? "Mic+3:6" Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the SUN SHALL GO DOWN over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.

If God put them into darkness, He will never bring them to light again. This means God was forever finished working through a prophet. This is borne out in Heb. 1 that God speaks to us in these last days by His Son. So to set this man or any other man up as the spokesperson to which we must go to receive a word from God is to fall from grace back to law and the dead OT Covenant.

A very destructive teaching was this: Branham taught that men could have as many women as they choose but a woman cannot do this. He compared it to a bull in a pasture full of cows and a rooster in the yard full of hens. (So am I to believe that we are on the same level as animals?) This caused many of his followers to start marrying several women. But the worst part of this teaching taught that a man could be justified from fornication but a woman could never be justified from this sin. HUH?

Now this tells us that Jesus only brought salvation to men; not women. So all of the women these men commit fornication with are bound for hell, while the men guilty of this same sin, and in most cases was the one pushing to do the sin, is able to be saved or justified or cleansed from this sin.

But what does the Scripture say about this? The Word says that all who come to God He will in no wise cast out. All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. God is not willing that any should perish. Jesus died to give salvation to the entire world, not just men.

The woman taken in the very act of adultery (notice the men did not take the guilty man; wonder why? They had to have caught him also.)--But Jesus told this woman “neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more�? So He justified her right there. To hold to this doctrine is to tell women they can never be saved if they ever commit fornication. Yet a man can do all the fornication he wishes (with women) and still be justified. Now I ask anyone who believes this man’s teachings to bring me one single verse of Scripture, which says such a thing. I tell you, it is a lie from hell. No Scripture teaches this lie.

Now my whole purpose for this message is to show that none of this man’s teachings fit the Word of God. If it does not fit the Word of God, if it is not written, it is a LIE.

The woman at the well was also guilty of this sin. Yet Jesus forgave her, told her to sin no more and sent her out as his very first evangelist. She brought a whole town to Jesus. Did he justify her? Of course He did. Two witnesses of this justification for women.

To me the very worst of Branham’s teachings came out of a book by Josephus. Branham taught much of his stuff out of Josephus. Now I have never read any Josephus in the Word of God, therefore it could not be truth, which we should believe or teach. This hideous teaching is called the serpent seed doctrine. They say that Eve committed physical adultery with some creature that they claim is the serpent in the Garden of Eden. They claim this serpent was some animal creature between man and monkeys. They claim that the devil used this serpent and talked through him and deceived Eve into committing adultery with him. They claim that from this adulterous affair Cain was born. They claim that Adam was not the father of Cain.

But what does the Word of God say about this?

Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Now is that hard to understand? I don’t see how anyone could miss the meaning of the above verse. It is plainly saying that Adam had marital relations with Eve and from this holy union Cain was born.

I am asking anyone who believes this lie to find me one single verse, which says any of that stuff. It cannot be done. It is NOT written in God’s Word at all.

So, who was this serpent who deceived Eve?

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Now that verse plainly said that the old serpent is the same as the Devil, Satan and the great dragon. They are all one and the same being. So this proves that the serpent was NOT any animal creature, but indeed the very devil himself. Any other verse prove this? Sure. Cast out? Where is that in the Word? In Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Now how much plainer would it need to be said? Both of these verses say clearly that the dragon is that old serpent, which is the Devil and Satan. See?

Now back to the garden for more proof:

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

This says that the serpent was MORE subtle than ANY BEAST of the field. Yet this false doctrine says that he was one of the beast of the field. If this were true, then the verse would have had to say, the serpent was the most subtle beast of the field. But this serpent is never connected with the beast this way. If he were more subtle than ANY BEAST OF THE FIELD, then this is including any and all of the beast in comparison.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Above is another verse showing that the serpent is never compared with the beast of the field as being one of them. He was cursed above every beast of the field; all of them. It is that carnal mind. As in Adam all die. To be carnally minded is death. The day you eat you shall die. The law is death. This is the carnal mind. Adam hid his sin in his bosom. He never repented; he never confessed. He lied, so his sin is held against him forevermore. Adam is the devil and Satan.

Did any of these people believing this lie every look up the meaning of the word serpent? Apparently not. It means a wicked man. So some wicked man deceived Eve. Who was it? The father of Cain.

1John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

They use this verse to say that Cain was the son of the devil. Well, this is actually the truth; but not the way they are teaching it. Cain was of that wicked one, that old serpent, the devil and Satan. So who is this? The father of Cain. Who was this? Adam knew Eve his wife and she conceived and bear Cain.

There you have it. ADAM. Yes, Adam was that old wicked serpent called the Devil and Satan who deceived his wife into taking of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the LAW. Does not the Word say by the LAW is the KNOWLEDGE OF SIN? Sure it does. Does it not also teach good? Sure it does. Yet this false teaching says that sex was this tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Where is any written Scripture saying this? I know of none. Do any of you have even one verse saying this? Let’s see it if you do.

Now another very obvious way to prove this is a lying teaching, one which those who believe this lie completely overlook, is this: The Word clearly says that Adam did the very same thing which Eve did. Adam ATE of the very same �?I>tree�?which Eve ate of. So if Eve’s sin was having sex with some animal called the serpent, then SO DID ADAM! It is time this truth is brought to the light!

If Eve committed adultery, then Adam committed homosexuality! For they claim the serpent was a male creature, then Adam had sex with another male. But you never hear them get into this part of the Scripture. Why? Because they just believe and accept any lie mama Jezebel brings up with her Baal prophets. Yes, they claim the teacher of this lie was a prophet. Well I just for the first time agree with them; yes, he was a Baal prophet. If not, then he could not have taught such an ungodly lie!

So now I ask all of you who teach this filthy lie, to bring and show me even one single verse which says Eve committed physical adultery with someone or a beast. Prove it by the Word. Prove all things. You must find at least two verses, which say a thing for it to be established as truth. Is it written? If not, it is lies. Let God’s Word be true and every man’s a lie.

The things men have ADDED to God’s Word in order to teach this filthy lie is just unbelievable! Especially to hear those who openly proclaim that we must go by the Written Word and not add to it! Yet they don’t hear themselves speaking all these added lies! They have spiritual scales over their eyes. They are blind. They tell us that all Adam did was have sex with his wife. If this be true, then pray tell me how he ‘ate�?of the ‘tree�?of the knowledge of good and evil! The Word declares that he ate of this tree also.

So if you claim all he did was have sex with Eve, then are you saying that Eve was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? And if this is the answer then how did Eve eat of this tree? How did she eat of herself? See? There are just too many questions, which their lie cannot answer. How was having sex with his wife a sin? God had blessed them and told them to be fruitful and multiply and reproduce the earth. There is only one way to do this. Having sex with his wife could not have been a sin. He did the very same thing she did. He ate of the very same tree she ate of. You, who believe this lie, you had better get into the Word and do some serious studying. Get out of that man’s books and into the KJV Word of God!

Branham also taught that Adam was not guilty, that he only accepted this place of condemnation to be with Eve for she had been placed under condemnation. I tell you this is a hideous lie. No Scripture says this lie. This was ‘added�?to God’s Word. Paul said by one MAN sin entered the World; he did not say by one woman. Job also shows that Adam hid his sin in his bosom. He lied about it.

Because Adam talked Eve into partaking of law [the tree of the knowledge of good and evil]; and under law the woman is ruled over by the man; for this was her punishment for listening to him and letting him deceive her into accepting law instead of the grace they were already in; so then this being ruled over by her husband is part of the law or a yoke of bondage. The law is bondage. Jesus broke every yoke. Yet most people today still hold that a woman is to be silent and under the rule of her husband. So this places her still under law and therefore lost. By law shall no flesh be justified. No man and no woman. No justification under law. Adam was not deceived. He took of law willfully so he could rule over others. This is the desire of most today = to rule over others. Under grace no one rules over the other; we are all on equal grounds. Equality is the very essence of Christianity.

Another hideous thing Branham taught along this line was that a snake could wrap around a woman and give her sensations, which a man could never touch. This is filthy and evil. The serpent was NOT a reptile snake! This proves he did not have the true revelation of who the serpent was. He had evil in his mind. No reptile snake could wrap around any woman and her like it! It was a thing designed to place evil and hatred in the hearts of men for women. It is SICKNESS!

To make it worse, Branham told this to a full congregation of people. He told them (I heard this on tape myself; in fact everything I am saying here, I heard Branham teach it myself; it is not ‘hear-say�?-- that he had lots of other stuff of this sort, written on notes, which he could not say in front of a mixed group! He told the men to meet with him later, privately, and he would tell this evil, ugly, ungodly mess to them! Can you imagine what evil it must have been! [Now of course he did not call it those words, I did.] But he did tell them he would reveal the stuff to them, which he could say in front of the women. He had openly stated the ugly thing about the snake wrapping around the woman. Such evil to place in women and men’s minds! I can tell you without reserve; nothing of this sort came from a Holy God!

He also told the world that women were worse than a dog [basing this statement on the wonderful fact that God made the woman so she could have loving with her husband any time and not be dependant on ‘seasons�?as are animals.] He told how dogs only have sex for the sake of their babies. Thus he placed the thought that loving between husbands and wives just for the sake of loving is wrong! Such a lie!

In fact he taught that Eve was ‘coming�?into her ‘season�?when she was tempted with the animal serpent. God does not show that any such thing was ever true of a woman. He made this stuff up to cause hatred between men and women. It is of the devil. Why would she be worse than a dog because God made her so they could love each other anytime? Such foolishness!

He also told the world that the serpent was the missing link between men and the Chimpanzee. Now I have never read in the Word of God that there was any ‘missing�?link. This is saying he upheld the lie of evolution. Where does the Word say anything about some missing link? It is a lie!

Now another big lie, which stemmed from this serpent seed doctrine, is that those descended from Cain’s or the serpent’s seed can never be saved. They say that some people are predestinated by God to be lost and some to be saved. Thus they twist the truth and beauty of predestination as taught in the Word of God. But what does the Word say about this?

God said he was not willing for any to perish. He said Jesus died for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD; not just part of us. He said that whosoever will may come and take of the water of LIFE freely. He said all who come to me I will in no wise cast out. He said all who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. The Word says there is no difference in anyone. To all that believe on the name of the Son of God, He gave them power to become Sons of God. All. Every one of them. God has never chosen some to be lost and some to be saved. It is to whosoever will. So see then that the predestination they teach would cross this Scripture.

God predestinated that we who come in by faith shall be saved. That is what is predestinated = HOW we are saved; not who can be saved. Besides that, it appears that all of Cain’s descendants were destroyed in the great flood. None of his family was on the ark that we know of. So this is another big lie from Branham. It has folks thinking some of them are predestinated to be saved, and they can just live in sin or whatever suits them. This is hard-shell Baptist doctrine. Branham started out as a Baptist.

He taught that the Jesus-only teaching was false. Yet most of his followers believe this lie. They claim to believe what he taught, so then why do they believe the Jesus-only lie when Branham said it was wrong? He also said the trinity was wrong; yet he did not tell what was right. So I say he did not know.

Branham then proceeded to tell that certain things were wrong between husbands and wives. This caused many to lose the good relationship they had. They became afraid of marital relationships. I have heard some of the claim that they were no longer supposed to have sex. Some of them believed certain kinds of acts were dirty and sin. Branham told men they must live ‘clean�?with their wives. Yet the Word of God does not condemn any of this. In fact Paul said in marriage the bed is UNDEFILED. His teachings led some of them to a stale, dead marriage; while at the same time leading others into polygamous relationships.

The Word of God teaches for men to have one wife. Bishops must be the husband of one wife. So where did this lie come from?



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Now when someone questions his followers about any of these teachings, they will deny that he taught them. So apparently they know in their hearts that these things are lies, yet they cannot break away from his hold on them and acknowledge that they are lies. If they listened to his messages, they would know he taught these things.

So if they know they are lies, why do they hold to him and claim he was a prophet of God? Especially in the face of the fact that God stopped prophets of that nature with John the Baptist. The law and the prophets go together. So if you accept either one today, you fall from grace and will not have salvation. If you fall from grace, then Jesus Christ is of no effect to you. Paul plainly taught this.

They base their faith in Branham more on the ‘supposed�?miracles he worked, than on what he taught. But I say to all, staying true to the Word of God is the very most important thing. Not only that, but I have read personal accounts by men who worked right with Branham in his ministry. They believed in this man very deeply. But after awhile they met too many people to whom Branham had pronounced their loved ones to be healed, who had died in only a few days after the ‘supposed�?healings. So most of his stuff was just ‘faked�? Maybe even all of it as far as I know.

I see ministers today following in his ‘footsteps�?and faking healings to deceive people with and get their money. They, as he, count on the hope that no one ever catches on that the people are not really being healed. But if you watch it close enough with an open mind, you can easily prove this. They say one will ‘lose�?their healing because they did not have strong enough faith. Then the people go home doubting their own faith, knowing they themselves were not healed, as the fake minister said, and in their minds believe the others were healed.

This is how these fake minister get by with their deception. This is how Branham deceived the world. When the people leave the ‘meetings�? there is no way to know that all those supposed healings did not really take place. Most of the people never see each other again. But God let some of Branham’s workers discover that the people were dying instead of being healed. So it is with the fake ministers today. If it were truly of God, these ministers would know not to tell people they are healed when they are not. Jesus did not have such a ministry. When he told people they were healed, it was so.

Then there is another lie, which says that Mary was not even the mother of Jesus. He said she was just an incubator. Branham said that God did not have to use a woman to bring his son into the world; that He could have put His seed on a stump! Can you imagine such an evil statement? And millions of ‘supposed-to-be Bible-believing people�?just accept this lie without question.

What does the Word of God say about this matter?

Lu 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Lu 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

This says that Jesus was her son. So what do you believe?

Lu 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

Lu 2:43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.

Lu 2:48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? Behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.

Now these are not the only verses which say that Mary was the mother of Jesus; but I have given five different verses saying this. So, who do you believe - this lying prophet or the Word of God? People, this is very serious business, so don’t take this message lightly or scoff at it. If Eve, the woman, was the bad one, and Adam was the good one, as they teach, then WHY did God use the woman to birth his Son instead of the man? If he were bypassing the sinful one, why did he use the woman?

Now another lie he preached along this same line was that John the Baptist was dead in Elizabeth’s womb until Mary came to them. But I have never found that statement in the Word of God. Remember, if it is not written, it is a LIE. Do not ADD to God’s Word, lest he call you a liar. He will also add the plagues of His Book to you. Do not take away from His Word for He will take your part out of His Book of life if you do.

Another lie Branham taught was that of the ‘immaculate conception�?taught by the Catholic Church. I have never found that teaching in the Word of God. It was ADDED.

Branham prophesied that the ‘rapture�?would take place by 1977. Yet the Word of God does not teach any such thing as a ‘rapture�? He said we would be in the Millennium by 1977. His followers say that the church age ended in 1965. Yet obviously none of this proved to be true.

I cannot possibly bring out every one of Branham’s errors in this message, but I do wish to show this one other here. This teaching is so easy to disprove with the Word of God that I cannot see how he or anyone else could believe what he taught on the Two witnesses of Rev. 11. Branham taught that the two witnesses are Moses and Elijah. Most of his followers just go along with this lie without ever really studying the Word and seeking the real answer.

So I am asking anyone who believes this to show one single verse of Scripture which backs up this lie. It is just not in the Word of God. Are we to believe that God did not give us the answers to all the Scripture questions? I certainly do not believe this. Jesus said search the Scriptures. We are told to study them to shew ourselves approved to God. Now if the answers are not in the Scripture, why study them? What good will it do? Are we to listen to this man who preached the lies of Josephus?

The Word said it is appointed once unto man to die. Moses already died. He will never be brought back to life, only to be killed and die again. Elijah was transported to Heaven to never see death. So how could they be the two witnesses? The word ‘two�?here does not mean the digit 2. It is not showing 2 individual men. It is showing two different anointed groups of believers with the power of God.

Go into the Book of Acts. You will see several times where the NT Church of the Apostles called themselves His Witnesses. Yes, they were the first witness anointed with power from on high by the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. With this power they turned the world upside-down.

Now after the close of the seventh church of Rev. there will come forth another group of power-filled people. These will be anointed with the Baptism of Fire to bring the Judgment and wrath of the Lamb on the earth. Psm. 149; Joel 2; Isa. 13; Zeph. And many other places show this group of witnesses bringing the written judgments upon the earth.

So that is the Scriptural true account of the Two Witnesses. William Branham’s false teaching of it being Moses and Elijah has kept his followers from seeking and finding this true answer. Also the false teaching of a ‘rapture�?of the Church has blinded people to this true working of God after the seventh Church. Branham also taught this false rapture teaching. He just simply did not have any true revelation of the Word of God.

There are many other such things he taught which are contrary to the Written Word of God. But I will stop here. Anyone who is ‘willing�?to open their eyes and ‘see�?there is enough here to prove this man did not teach truth.

If a ‘truth�?you think you have causes you to close out someone or something else, such as this message, then it is not of God. It is a binding spirit trying to rule over you and cause you to fall. Know that under GRACE we are ALL ONE. This means we are all the same; equals. One does not rule over another under Grace. Nor is one set above another under Grace. It is under LAW, the tree of knowledge of good and evil, where one is set up above others.

When the Sons of God [those in grace; first Adam] saw [understood] the daughters of men [law people; power to rule] then they ‘went�?in unto them [the carnal mind] and had ‘children�?by them. This means the ones God had placed in Grace went into law for the very purpose of ruling over others; or in other words, to be as gods. . To be looked up to. To be worshipped. Adam did this to rule over Eve and others. This is how he became the first ‘head�?or ruler over the ‘beast�?kingdom. This is those under law.

This is not speaking of sexual doings with men and women; it is totally spiritual. God speaks of things from His standpoint; not human flesh. It is not speaking of our bodies. It shows that Adam spiritually brought forth another person, his own self, corrupted away from God; away from simplicity or the love of God; grace. Under grace he could not rule over Eve or others. He had to take it to law in order to become as gods; or to be worshipped, or to be a giant among men. I pray to God you can see or understand what I am saying.

‘Children�?were born to them, means they brought forth their own selves under law, setting one up above the others, which was the men of renown, giants. It is not speaking of the size of their bodies; it speaks of men like Branham, who were lifted up above others as giants. [Understand?] When you set him so high, you cannot discuss him, it is worship. In other words you make him your god. This is not good. You should see him as any other person. You should not esteem him as more in the body of Christ than anyone else. We are all one. This is a great mystery.

Now when you lift one above another, this is a form of worship and it is of law. This is death, for by the law shall no flesh be justified or saved.

I am just as much a part of the body as any other person. If you do not see this and hold it so, then it is sin. Partiality is sin. Right?

Just think of this: if --yes- if -- the present church were teaching truth, by which is power, then why is it powerless? Why did God say the last one is naked, blind, wretched, miserable, lukewarm and ready to be spewed out by God? Think on this.

People can easily see that we are said to have a ‘new�?man, or another ‘person�?living inside us at conversion. They know the Word teaches us to mortify the outer man so the inner man can live. They know the Word shows that we become a new creature in Christ, yet we still have our old nature also. Yet when it comes to going back and understanding what went on in the Garden of Eden, they completely forget this principle of Spirituality. That is exactly what happened with Adam. He lost his glory he had with God in the beginning. Adam was in grace to begin with. He was a glorified person, in the likeness and image of God.

But when he sinned and became jealous of God, wanting to be God, to sit in the seat of God, then he took on another nature, that of carnality. He lost his glory and his glorification. He now had a sinful nature or person inside himself. This is because he went from grace to law. This inner, sinful person was that serpent. Yes, they partook of the law, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. This brought death to them. God then clothed them with human skin. They became mortal instead of immortal. That is why Eve was told Adam would now rule over her, for she let him deceive her into going to law. Only in grace is this bondage or yoke broken. So all who hold to this matter of man ruling over the woman are still under the bondage of law. There is no salvation under this law covenant.

Just study the Word and see if it is true or not. Compare what he taught with the Word. Compare what I teach with the Word. If one crosses the Word, then set it aside as false. If you can find where I teach something which is not according to the Word, then you should show me. Why do you not believe in discussing and proving these things? God said to do this. It is necessary. To not do it, is to stay in darkness and blindness. If what I teach is true to the Word, then acknowledge that God is teaching me. If Branham’s word crosses God’s Word, or is not written, then acknowledge that he lied.

To believe he is that type of prophet is to go back to the Old Covenant which is dead. God did away with the law and the prophets. It is not under grace. This places you back under the law head, which is hell-bound. Only in grace, or the New Covenant is salvation. Those kinds of prophets are NOT in grace; they are in law. Giants are not in grace, they are in law. Gods are not in grace, they are in law. [Idol gods, that is].

You who believe in Branham talk of �?I>the message�?/I>. The message of the hour. The man of God for the hour. Now I ask you, please tell me WHAT THE MESSAGE IS. I have heard it and heard it; now I want to know -- WHAT IS IT? What is this ‘great�?message you all speak of? Do you know?

Where does the Word teach a ‘man of God�?for any hour? Where is one set up above another this way under the New Covenant = Grace?

What did Branham TEACH you? Did he enlighten your mind to the truth of the Word? Did He explain the Word to you? If so, what? Take the Word and show it to me. If you can’t, why not?

If you are more concerned with what your ‘church�?thinks about you than you are about what God thinks, then something is wrong. Are you not concerned about what God thinks and knows about you?

Do you believe that you can just ask for forgiveness every night and that makes all sin all right with God? You MUST repent, or give up your sins BEFORE God will forgive you. If you live one way out of church and try to appear another way in church, it is hypocritical and deceptive.

Something has deceived most church folks, and ministers, into believing they can live in sin all they wish and ask forgiveness at night and that makes it all right. I tell you it is a lie of Satan.

God requires us to live a Holy Sacrificial life. We cannot do as our flesh desires and please God.

By: Jo Smith

8/11/04


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This was taken from the message that William Branham did on the serpent seed
Now, the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD GOD had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, has God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?... the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:But of the fruit of the tree in the midst of the garden, God has said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest ye die.And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day that ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened,... (See? Hunting new light.)... and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

15-4 See, how these fellows are today trying to take away from the Bible. "Why, isn't it just as easy to pour, or sprinkle, this way or that way?" No, sir. God put down a program, and that's what we're supposed to follow, This.

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to make--to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also to her husband with her; and he did eat.
And their eyes of them both were opened, and they knew... they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made them aprons.

16-1 I would like to stop here for a minute. Now, there's got to be a beginning of everything. You had a beginning. Now, we--here's where I want to base the whole thing on now that we've talked about in these last two meetings in the year. Now, this morning we went back and dramatized in the Bible that when God was making the earth, that when He was forming the gases (and then them gases become calcium and potash, and--and different things) He was making your body. He was laying the building out like a great master builder, like a contractor laying out his materials to build a housing project. He was making your body, and He had it laying there. He knew just exactly in His mind what was going to be done. This hand... God made that hand before He--while He was making the world. But my spirit, He made before there was a world. Now, but this hand and this body, He made when He made the world; 'cause this body came out of the earth, and going back to the earth. God made that. He laid it all out in His great blueprint and His program. Now, when He went to making the earth, He made the man, and the man didn't look just right.

16-2 Now, we had that this morning, went through the drama, how the--the Father came down and looked at His son made in His image, and so forth. Then he made him a wife, a helpmate.
Now, remember, that all of the creatures of the earth, Adam had named them. He had made the--the cattle and the beasts, and everything. And today, we chronologists and--and different great minds of science have been trying for six thousand years to find out that missing link, why that animal... Man is animal life; we know that. That we're made... And a woman is just a part of a man, a byproduct. A woman was not in the original creation. God had done quit creating for years and years and years, until He made the woman out of a rib out of his side.

16-4 Adam had done named all of the creation, everything else. But he wasn't nothing for himself, so He made Him a helpmate: took a rib from his side, closed up the gash, and made a helpmate to him. And man in his spirit was both man and woman. And a woman is just a part of a man.
And when a man takes to himself a wife, and if she's correctly his wife, a God-given wife, she'll be just to him as part of him.


That's the reason you have so many scruples in the marriage. Is because you go out and see some girl with pretty brown eyes, or blue eyes, or something like that, some pretty figure, and you fall for her. First time she has her first baby them teeth comes out, and she gets wrinkled and old, and then you want to kick her out.
And some of you women find some little boy with his hair slicked down, his mammy's lard can half dumped on it, and curly; it'll all fall out. I know that by experience. But what happens? What is it? You fall for that. You ought to pray first, 'cause a woman is part of you.
And if you've embraced a woman to your bosom, and taken her for your wife, and she makes an imprint on you... (We'll say it like this so you'll understand) and any other woman against that bosom won't fit that print. And God will hold you responsible for it. You just remember that.

17-5 You that take somebody else's wife out and... I heard today of a little girl here in town, a poor little thing, I know her. And some gambler buying her big fine clothes and things, and trying to play up to her like that. A rat would do a thing like that, can't even be considered a human. You know a dog ain't that lowdown, and yet you call a mother dog a slut. She's got more morals than half the women of Jeffersonville has got. And you call an old mother hog a sow, and she's not--she's a lot more moral then--than the women of this United States, many of them. That's exactly right.
Now, I know that's flat, and I told you I was going to grind it home, and I want you to know it. And that's true. The old women nowadays don't even know what moral is. Say, "It don't hurt my conscience." Well, you haven't got any. Notice. Yes, sir. When you know what's right and wrong...

17-7 Now, notice. This man, when he was created, God separated his spirit, and He took a piece off the man, his side, and made a woman out of it. And then He took the feminish, dainty spirit of the man and made a woman out of it, and He made the man masculine, burly. And when you see a--a man that's little, you know, manicuring (or whatever you call it) his fingernails and, you know, four on one side and five on the other, and--and is slicking his hair down, and holding his mouth open in front, and such stuff as that, one of these pretty boys; you just remember, sis, there's something wrong with that bird. There's something wrong. You better keep your eye on him.

18-1 And when you see a woman with a cigarette in the side of her mouth, with a pair of overalls on, and saying, "I tell you, 'feller', what it is." Brother, you watch that old gal. There's something wrong with her.
A woman's supposed to be a woman, and she's supposed to dress like a woman. When God made a man, He made him one thing; and He made a woman something else. And when God dresses a man, He dresses him one way, and a woman something else. And the Bible said it's a abomination for a woman to put on a garment that pertains to a man.

18-3 And you women, putting on these little old pants and things, and wearing them out here, little old (What is it you call them?) Knickerbockers... Or what is it? What is that, sisters? No, no, it's not shorts, it's that--got the long legs in them: pedal pushers and overalls, dungarees...
Go and they said, "This is for the ladies."
I said, "No, you're mistaken. Ladies don't wear them things: women might, but ladies don't." That's right. The Bible said it's an abomination for a woman to put on a garment... And for a man to put on a garment that pertains to a woman... And man is becoming more sissified everyday, and women is becoming more masculine. What's the matter? (We're going to find out in a few minutes by the Bible.) Women ain't women no more. I don't mean you Christian women. I'm talking about the general run. They want to act like men, want to cut their hair like men; put their hand upon a bar like that and sing "God Bless America" with a cigarette out of the corner of their mouth.

18-5 Go down the street, back out like that of riding the highway... We counted... I want to tell you something. And you women drivers... Listen. Billy Paul and I on this last campaign around the nation (six months), I kept a count of how many scruples on the road. And out of three hundred mishaps on the road, guess how many of them was women drivers? There was only lacking nineteen of them were men, and two hundred and eighty, or I believe two hundred eighty-one of them would be women drivers: women drivers.
Now, I'm not saying there ain't good women drivers. But she'll turn any way, and you just try to get back at her. Let her be kind of nice looking and stand there, push that hair up when a cop comes up there. "Why," he'd say, "sure you're in the wrong." We ain't got no law. They proved that the other day in the tax suit I'm just coming through. We ain't got no laws. If there are...

19-2 No wonder that great Lords of England said, "Democracy was all sails, no anchor." That's right, stand on a soap box electioneering. The democracy's rotten, and so's dictators and all the rest of them. The whole thing is rotten. There ain't but one thing for God to do: is to destroy the whole thing as He said He would do, and start anew.

19-3 Now, watch how close you are to the coming. Now, when this woman, He made him a helpmate, and she was to be his helpmate.
And then... Now, here I've never had a preacher to agree with this yet. And they try to make it some other way, but yet it don't make sense to me. They try to say that Adam and Eve eat some apples. Brother, if... I don't say this for a joke now, but I want to say it for... If eating apples makes women realize they are naked, we'd better pass the apples again. You know that's right.
You know eating an apple, that wasn't what they did, made them realize they were naked. Certainly, it wasn't. It had to come through sexually. It had to be, 'cause they realized they were naked when they taken this forbidden fruit.
Ain't a woman a fruit tree? Aren't you the fruit of your mother? That was the fruit that was forbidden to be taken.

22-8 Now, watch the serpent, this serpent which was first. Let's draw a picture of him now. He's a great big fellow. He's between the chimpanzee and the man. And the serpent, the devil, Lucifer, knew that that was the only blood that would mix with this human blood. The only person he could deal with... He couldn't deal with the chimpanzee. That blood wouldn't mix. He couldn't deal with different things. He couldn't deal with the sheep. He couldn't deal with the horse. He couldn't deal with any animal. He had to deal with this serpent.
Let's take him now and see what he looks like: Great big fellow, prehistoric giant. That's where they find these big bones, and I'll show you this in the Bible. Now, watch closely then. All right. This great big fellow, let's say he was--he was ten foot tall, great big shoulders, looked just like a man. And his blood, after coming down, coinciding one animal to another...

23-2 You can cross animals. They kept getting higher blood, higher form of life, higher form, till it climbs up into the man realm. But the last connection here between here was cut off. How many knows that science can't find the missing link? All of you know that. Why? Here he is, the serpent.
Here he was a great big fellow. And the devil comes down. Now, he says, "I can inspire." Now, when you go to looking at women and actions of women, remember you are anointed of the devil, if it's not your own wife. Notice. Now, the devil come down and got into the serpent, and he found Eve in the garden of Eden naked. And he talked about the fruit in the midst, the "midst" means "middle" and so forth. You understand in a mixed congregation. And he said, "Now, it's pleasant. It's good to the eye."

23-4 What did he do? He begin making love to Eve. And he lived with her as a husband. And she saw it was pleasant, so she went and told her husband; but she was already pregnant by Satan. And she brought forth her first son whose name was Cain, the son of Satan.
"Now," you say, "that's wrong." All right, we'll just find out whether it's wrong or not. "And I will put enmity between thy seed and the serpent's seed." What? The serpent's seed. She had a seed, and he had a seed. "And he shall bruise thy head, and you shall bruise his heel." A "bruise" there means "to make an atonement."
Now, there's your seed of the serpent. Now, notice, here comes these two men out.
Now, this serpent, when he stood there... This great big giant of a fellow stood up there. He was guilty of committing adultery with Adam's wife. Where's sin lay today? What makes things the way they are today? (Now, I--I... Surely you can catch what I'm talking about.)

And there he was. And when he did, God said, begin to call for Eve and Adam. And he said, "I was naked."
And He said, "Who told you you was naked?" Then they begin to--in army fashion, passing the buck.
Said, "Well, the woman You gave me done it. She was the one who persuaded me."
And she said, "The serpent give me an apple." All right, preacher, get next to yourself. She said, "The serpent beguiled me." Do you know what "beguile" means? Means "defiled." The...?... The devil never gave her an apple. "The serpent has beguiled me." And then the curse came.

24-1 He said, "Because you listened to the serpent in the stead of your husband, you took life from the world; and you--now you'll multiply your sorrows, and your conception shall be to your husband," and so forth. "And because you listened to your wife instead of me--I took you from  you from the dust the highest specie--back to the dust you go." "And serpent, because you did that, off goes your legs; upon your belly you'll go all the days of your life. And you'll be hated, and dust shall be your meat." There you are. There's that missing link.


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The Serpent's Seed

In spite of his apparent humility and consecration, Branham had great difficulty controlling a strident, hateful attitude toward women. In his own poor English, transcribed from a sermon, Branham stated, "But I remember when my father's still up there running, I had to be out there with water and stuff, see young ladies that wasn't over seventeen, eighteen years, up there with a man my age now, drunk. And they'd have to sober them up and give them black coffee, to get them home to cook their husband's supper. Oh, something like that, I said, 'I...This was my remarked [sic] then, THEY'RE NOT WORTH A GOOD CLEAN BULLET TO KILL THEM WITH IT.' That's right. And I hated women. That's right. And I just have to watch every move now, to keep from still thinking the same thing."(25)

This attitude toward women may have played a part in the development of Branham's bizarre "Serpent Seed" teaching. This was based on a twisted interpretation of Genesis 3:13, where Eve is recorded as saying, "The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." The word "beguiled" Branham defined as "seduced sexually." He claimed that Satan and Eve engaged in an adulterous affair out of which Cain was born. Since that time evil has passed from generation to generation through women, who keep the seed of the serpent alive.(26)

He seemed to think that women are responsible for the evil in the world because of their enticements. The "Serpent's Seed" teaching obviously indicated that Branham didn't take the Scriptures literally, where we read, "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived and bare Cain..." (Genesis 4:1). His animosity toward women led to the preaching of a rigid moral code that lambasted them.


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From: joie Sent: 9/6/2004 11:51 AM
Thank you Larry, for finding this message and posting it here for us.  I once listened to all of Branham's messages.  I listened to every tape he made and read the books.  I saw that he strayed too far out of the Word of God at every point.  And even though I beleived in him at that time, I still questioned most of what he said because I saw that it crossed the Word of God.............
 
So finally I began to do some serious studying and comparing his words with the Scripture.  Then I saw that there was absolutely NO WAY this man could have been of God.  He taught some of the 'pukiest' mess which has ever been taught on this earth.......and millions upon millions of people STILL today are caught in this man's tangled 'spider webs'.
 
        I always questioned how Branham could have seen that those WOMEN was so bad......and yet never saw that those MEN were just as bad......if not worse........those MEN where the ones enticing those young girls and leading them astray......yet, as the Pharisees of Jesus' day, only blamed the woman.......not the men involved in the VERY SAME SIN.
 
Actually none of this false teacher's words match the pure word of God.  Now I wish to say here that Branham himself did not make up this tale of the serpent........he said that he got it out of the book of Josephus.  In fact almost all Branham taught came right out of that Josephus book.
 
The 'Brannamite' believers went out and bought Josephus Books and study them, laying aside the Word of God.  They seem to think now that Josephus was the only true Bible.
 
I do hope we can reach some people with this truth.  Keep trying.
 
Jo

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From: joie Sent: 9/6/2004 11:57 AM
Here is a little more I added to the above message about Branham's teachings.  This was not in the original message, but I added some more to it and had meant to redo this and post the new one.  but I had not done this and since Larry has already posted his 'find' under it, I will just add this:  [I do hope all of our memebers will study this and try to reach others with this eye-opening truth against this false prophet, William Branham.]
 

Branham prophesied that the ‘rapture�?would take place by 1977. Yet the Word of God does not teach any such thing as a ‘rapture�? He said we would be in the Millennium by 1977. His followers say that the church age ended in 1965. Yet obviously none of this proved to be true.

I cannot possibly bring out every one of Branham’s errors in this message, but I do wish to show this one other here. This teaching is so easy to disprove with the Word of God that I cannot see how he or anyone else could believe what he taught on the Two witnesses of Rev. 11. Branham taught that the two witnesses are Moses and Elijah. Most of his followers just go along with this lie without ever really studying the Word and seeking the real answer.

So I am asking anyone who believes this to show one single verse of Scripture which backs up this lie. It is just not in the Word of God. Are we to believe that God did not give us the answers to all the Scripture questions? I certainly do not believe this. Jesus said search the Scriptures. We are told to study them to shew ourselves approved to God. Now if the answers are not in the Scripture, why study them? What good will it do? Are we to listen to this man who preached the lies of Josephus?

The Word said it is appointed once unto man to die. Moses already died. He will never be brought back to life, only to be killed and die again. Elijah was transported to Heaven to never see death. So how could they be the two witnesses? The word ‘two�?here does not mean the digit 2. It is not showing 2 individual men. It is showing two different anointed groups of believers with the power of God.

Go into the Book of Acts. You will see several times where the NT Church of the Apostles called themselves His Witnesses. Yes, they were the first witness anointed with power from on high by the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. With this power they turned the world upside-down.

Now after the close of the seventh church of Rev. there will come forth another group of power-filled people. These will be anointed with the Baptism of Fire to bring the Judgment and wrath of the Lamb on the earth. Psm. 149; Joel 2; Isa. 13; Zeph. And many other places show this group of witnesses bringing the written judgments upon the earth.

So that is the Scriptural true account of the Two Witnesses. William Branham’s false teaching of it being Moses and Elijah has kept his followers from seeking and finding this true answer. Also the false teaching of a ‘rapture�?of the Church has blinded people to this true working of God after the seventh Church. Branham also taught this false rapture teaching. He just simply did not have any true revelation of the Word of God.

There are many other such things he taught which are contrary to the Written Word of God. But I will stop here. Anyone who is ‘willing�?to open their eyes and ‘see�?there is enough here to prove this man did not teach truth.

If a ‘truth�?you think you have causes you to close out someone or something else, such as this message, then it is not of God. It is a binding spirit trying to rule over you and cause you to fall. Know that under GRACE we are ALL ONE. This means we are all the same; equals. One does not rule over another under Grace. Nor is one set above another under Grace. It is under LAW, the tree of knowledge of good and evil, where one is set up above others.

When the Sons of God [those in grace; first Adam] saw [understood] the daughters of men [law people; power to rule] then they ‘went�?in unto them [the carnal mind] and had ‘children�?by them. This means the ones God had placed in Grace went into law for the very purpose of ruling over others; or in other words, to be as gods. . To be looked up to. To be worshipped. Adam did this to rule over Eve and others. This is how he became the first ‘head�?or ruler over the ‘beast�?kingdom. This is those under law.

This is not speaking of sexual doings with men and women; it is totally spiritual. God speaks of things from His standpoint; not human flesh. It is not speaking of our bodies. It shows that Adam spiritually brought forth another person, his own self, corrupted away from God; away from simplicity or the love of God; grace. Under grace he could not rule over Eve or others. He had to take it to law in order to become as gods; or to be worshipped, or to be a giant among men. I pray to God you can see or understand what I am saying.

‘Children�?were born to them, means they brought forth their own selves under law, setting one up above the others, which was the men of renown, giants. It is not speaking of the size of their bodies; it speaks of men like Branham, who were lifted up above others as giants. [Understand?] When you set him so high, you cannot discuss him, it is worship. In other words you make him your god. This is not good. You should see him as any other person. You should not esteem him as more in the body of Christ than anyone else. We are all one. This is a great mystery.

Now when you lift one above another, this is a form of worship and it is of law. This is death, for by the law shall no flesh be justified or saved.

I am just as much a part of the body as any other person. If you do not see this and hold it so, then it is sin. Partiality is sin. Right?

Just think of this: if --yes- if -- the present church were teaching truth, by which is power, then why is it powerless? Why did God say the last one is naked, blind, wretched, miserable, lukewarm and ready to be spewed out by God? Think on this.

People can easily see that we are said to have a ‘new�?man, or another ‘person�?living inside us at conversion. They know the Word teaches us to mortify the outer man so the inner man can live. They know the Word shows that we become a new creature in Christ, yet we still have our old nature also. Yet when it comes to going back and understanding what went on in the Garden of Eden, they completely forget this principle of Spirituality. That is exactly what happened with Adam. He lost his glory he had with God in the beginning. Adam was in grace to begin with. He was a glorified person, in the likeness and image of God.

But when he sinned and became jealous of God, wanting to be God, to sit in the seat of God, then he took on another nature, that of carnality. He lost his glory and his glorification. He now had a sinful nature or person inside himself. This is because he went from grace to law. This inner, sinful person was that serpent. Yes, they partook of the law, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. This brought death to them. God then clothed them with human skin. They became mortal instead of immortal. That is why Eve was told Adam would now rule over her, for she let him deceive her into going to law. Only in grace is this bondage or yoke broken. So all who hold to this matter of man ruling over the woman are still under the bondage of law. There is no salvation under this law covenant.

Just study the Word and see if it is true or not. Compare what he taught with the Word. Compare what I teach with the Word. If one crosses the Word, then set it aside as false. If you can find where I teach something which is not according to the Word, then you should show me. Why do you not believe in discussing and proving these things? God said to do this. It is necessary. To not do it, is to stay in darkness and blindness. If what I teach is true to the Word, then acknowledge that God is teaching me. If Branham’s word crosses God’s Word, or is not written, then acknowledge that he lied.

To believe he is that type of prophet is to go back to the Old Covenant which is dead. God did away with the law and the prophets. It is not under grace. This places you back under the law head, which is hell-bound. Only in grace, or the New Covenant is salvation. Those kinds of prophets are NOT in grace; they are in law. Giants are not in grace, they are in law. Gods are not in grace, they are in law. [Idol gods, that is].



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/18/2006 8:41 PM
MY  Goodness!   thanks you, dear.  But I do not want you to wear yourself out doing this.
 
Just do a little at a time.  I do so much appreciate your help.
 
I sat here almost all day yesterday.  am not going to do that today.
 
Rhonda and I went to SC to get milk today.  First time I had gone in  a while.  sure was good to have some good milk again.  We had a good day.  (took a biscuit into the Graveyard.  We really enjoyed the visit.)
 
gots to work tomorrow.  Told her I cannot do it there anymore.  Those dogs just too much.
 
have a great day.  by.

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