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Jesus : The Crucifixion
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 7/25/2007 3:06 AM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 12/30/2002 4:07 PM
 

  

John 19

 1.  Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him.
 2.  And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe,
 3.  And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands.
 4.  Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him.


 5.  Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!


 6.  When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.


 7.  The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.
 8.  When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he was the more afraid;
 9.  And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer.


 10.  Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
 11.  Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.


 12.  And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.


 13.  When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.
 14.  And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!


 15.  But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
 16.  Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.


 17.  And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:
 18.  Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.


 19.  And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.

 

 



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/25/2007 3:07 AM
From: joie Sent: 12/30/2002 5:47 PM
 

 

John 19: 20.  This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.
 21.  Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.


 22.  Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
 23.  Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.


 24.  They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

 25.  Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
 26.  When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
 27.  Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.


 28.  After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
 29.  Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.


 30.  When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.


 31.  The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.


 32.  Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
 33.  But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:


 34.  But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
 35.  And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.


 36.  For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
 37.  And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.


 38.  And after this Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews, besought Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate gave him leave. He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus.
 39.  And there came also Nicodemus, which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight.


 40.  Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury.
 

 

 

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/25/2007 3:08 AM
From: joie Sent: 12/30/2002 8:26 PM
 
 

 

Psalms 22

 1.  My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
 2.  O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
 3.  But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
 4.  Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
 5.  They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
 6.  But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
 7.  All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,


 8.  He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
 9.  But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
 10.  I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.


 11.  Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
 12.  Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
 13.  They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.


 14.  I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
 15.  My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.


 16.  For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
 17.  I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
 18.  They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.


 19.  But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
 20.  Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.


 21.  Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
 22.  I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.


 23.  Ye that fear the Lord, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.


 24.  For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.


 25.  My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.

 

The first time I ever read this chapter, I cried and cried.  If this does not touch your heart, your heart is hard as a stone.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/25/2007 3:08 AM
From: joie Sent: 1/3/2003 8:45 AM

Zech. 11: 7.  And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock.

(These two staves were the law and prophets)


 8.  Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.

(the three shepherds which Jesus cut off were the O.T. Prophets, priests and Kings)


 9.  Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.

(this is where Jesus turns away from that old covenant; see no food left in it!  anything staying there , he said let it be cut off; the rest would 'eat' the flesh, or word of each other; not the word of God)


 10.  And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.

(Remember, this is at the time of the crucifixion;  proof is below here ----- here is where Jesus cut off his staff called Beauty; which was the prophets which had been feeding the O.T. people the word from God; remember, it said the law and prophets were UNTIL John the Baptist; after this no more would God speak to the people by law and prophets; now he speaks to us by His Son.  See that He said this was for the purpose of  BREAKING HIS COVENANT (O.T. LAW)  WHICH HE HAD MADE WITH THAT PEOPLE.)


 11.  And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the Lord.

 

WHAT DAY?  IT WAS BROKEN ON THE DAY OF THE CRUCIFIXION.  JESUS NAILED IT TO THAT CROSS AND CARRIED IT INTO HELL AND LEFT IT THERE.

(THOSE WHO WAIT ON THE LORD SHALL RENEW THEIR STRENGTH.  RENEW THEIR STRENGTH? 

 SEE THAT THEY HAD BEEN CUT OFF; SO THERE WAS NO STRENGTH; 

BUT TO THE PETERS AND JOHNS WHO WAITED ON JESUS,  RENEWED  THEIR STRENGTH BY BEING GRAFTED BACK INTO THE PURE OLIVE TREE ON THE DAY OF PENTECOST. 

 SO THEY KNEW IT WAS THE WORD OF THE LORD TO CUT OFF THAT OLD COVENANT AND RENEW IN THE NEW COVENANT.

  I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE COULD MISS THIS TRUTH; IT IS ALL OVER THE WORD OF GOD)


 12.  And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.

(NOW, HERE IS THE PROOF THAT THIS IS SPEAKING OF THE CRUCIFIXION; FOR THIS IS THE THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER WHICH WAS PAID TO JUDAS TO BETRAY JESUS.)


 13.  And the Lord said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the Lord.


 14.  Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel

(NOW, HERE IS WHERE JESUS CUT OFF THAT OTHER STAFF = LAW.  THE WAS WAS THE BANDS, - OR BONDAGE-- THAT YOKE THEY COULD NOT BEAR.

SEE, IN DOING THIS HE  BROKE  THE BROTHERHOOD BETWEEN JUDAH AND ISRAEL.

NO LONGER CAN THE TWO WALK TOGETHER, EXCEPT THEY BE AGREED.

THEY MUST AGREE TO COME OVER INTO THE NEW COVENANT.

THEN THEY BECOME JUDAH, THE FAMILY OF JESUS.  THEN THEY BECOME THE SPIRITUAL ISRAEL.

THE OLD JUDAH AND OLD ISRAEL, THOSE WHO CLING TO LAW ARE CUT OFF.

AND LEFT TO DIE.

THAT WHICH DIETH, LET IT DIE.

SO SAID JESUS.

 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/25/2007 3:09 AM
From: joie Sent: 1/3/2003 9:02 PM

Isaiah 53

 1.  Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
 2.  For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.


 3.  He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.


 4.  Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.


 5.  But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
 6.  All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.


 7.  He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.


 8.  He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.


 9.  And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.


 10.  Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.


 11.  He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.


 12.  Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/25/2007 3:10 AM
This is such a beautiful thread, and wonderful messages of the death of JEsus,  (so few seem to focus on this anymore)  that I am so glad I found it.
 
I am so tired, and sleepy, and meant to stop a while back,  but am so glad I went on and found this beautiful message, to preserve it on the new Jesus board.

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