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Jesus : Continuing the study by Alexader
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 12/12/2007 3:13 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/2/2006 6:15 PM
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:14 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAlexader546</NOBR> Sent: 10/2/2006 7:17 PM
I always saw the Bible as a history of biblical times about many diffrent people. Now I understand that it is solely about Jesus. Now the Bible will be considerably simpler and easier to understand. I guess I just never thounght of the Bible as being about a single person.
 
Thank you for revealing this to me. My wisdom has truely grown today. And again thank you for explaining this to me.
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:14 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/2/2006 8:33 PM
You are very welcome, Alexader.  Now when you can understand HOW it is all about Jesus, then you will have come into great light.
 
when I have more time, I will show you more on this.  tonight I must get to bed early, get up early tomorrow and work all day.
 
Wanna is sick, and I must take her place tomorrow and work two shifts with a dying woman.
 
groan! 
 
When you read the accounts of people's lives in Scripture,  it is to reveal truth about Jesus.
David showed Jesus.
 
Abraham showed Jesus.  Joseph showed Jesus.  Job showed Jesus.  Lamentations is about Jesus.etc.
Some showed Adam, the devil.
 
Goodnight.
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:14 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR> Sent: 10/3/2006 9:17 PM
Dear Freeborn,
I read Isa. 53 and it is the Crucificition of Christ. I have read that so many times before. Thank You for opening my eyes. Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:15 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAxs2-381</NOBR> Sent: 10/4/2006 3:20 AM
Jeremiah 18: 1. The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,

2. Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.

3. Then I went down to the potter's house, and, behold; he wrought a work on the wheels.

4. And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

What vessel was this, which was marred in the hand of the Potter.

Link it to Isaiah 53

Isa. 52: 13. Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.

14. As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

Jesus was that vessel which was marred in the hands of the potter, God, and then made into a new vessel of honour. He was declared to be the only begotten Son of God in the likeness and glory of God by the Spirit of Holiness by the resurrection from the dead. Rom. 1:3. Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4. And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:15 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/4/2006 10:43 AM
Hi Tweety,  I am so glad you saw this wonderful truth.
What a shame and pity it is to me, that so many have missed all this glory in the Scripture, about Jesus.
 
I tell people, you learn a lot about Jesus from the OT Prophets, which are not really revealed in the NT.
 
When I have time,  I have lots more glory to show on this subject, which will trill and feed the true Sheep of God.
 
Axs,  than you for this beautiful message.  It is so true and so wonderful when one sees it put together this way.
 
Love ye all,
Jo
 
(Pray for me this evening, as I will be doing a feeding tube, which I have never had experience with this before.)

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:16 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameeelyahomaika</NOBR> Sent: 10/4/2006 5:40 PM
Oh boy, it seems that msn is causing trouble again.

Great message Freeborn and Axs.

I have a question about Isaiah, but I'll do it tomorrow.
It's too late here.

eelya

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:17 AM
From: Isaiah Sent: 10/6/2006 5:01 AM
More proof that Isaiah 53 was speaking of Jesus
<NOBR>Ac 8:26</NOBR> And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
<NOBR>Ac 8:27</NOBR> And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
<NOBR>Ac 8:28</NOBR> Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
<NOBR>Ac 8:29</NOBR> Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
 
<NOBR>Ac 8:30</NOBR> And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
<NOBR>Ac 8:31</NOBR> And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
<NOBR>Ac 8:32</NOBR> The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
<NOBR>Ac 8:33</NOBR> In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
<NOBR>Ac 8:34</NOBR> And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
<NOBR>Ac 8:35</NOBR> Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:18 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/7/2006 2:36 PM
That is a wonderful message, Isaiah.  Thank you for this PROOF that Isa. 53 is the crucifixion of Jesus.  All Scripture is about Jesus.  How sad that so few know this! 
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From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamelovejoy742</NOBR> Sent: 10/7/2006 3:44 PM
I was reading this and looked at this verse.  I see that it is showing the same thing here that you are speaking of.  see what you think.
 
It seems to me this verse is talking about Jesus, for he said he was the tree and the followers were the branches.  so he was by the river of life and we are his fruit.
 
<NOBR>Ps 1:3</NOBR> And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
 
 

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From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamerollingstone444</NOBR> Sent: 10/8/2006 2:22 PM
now if you want a good laugh, read the book called Zechariah cp12 v4.
i read that today and thinking of this literal stuff, i had a good imagination and laughed good and hard.
 
think of this:  God said he would smite every horse with blindness and his rider with madness.  he will smite all horses with astonishment.
so picture this.  everyone riding on horses, suddenly the horses go astonished because  (guess, they went blind)  and then they are all blind and their rider goes mad.
 
some more funny pictgure.
 
does this mean every horse in the world?  and everyone riding on them suddenly goes mad?  boy that is a funny one, if you take it literal.  is it literal?  will god suddenly smite all the horses in the world with blindesss? 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:20 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR> Sent: 10/8/2006 6:33 PM
Dear Rolling Stone,
That verse applies to the Millennium. God will blind all riders and horses that are in the anti-christ's army that will fight against Judah. This is how God will protect the people. Now since I have explained this verse-is it still funny? Or does it show God's power that he has? Tweety

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From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamerollingstone444</NOBR> Sent: 10/8/2006 8:28 PM
well, thanks, tweety.  but what I am really wondering bout... is this real, literal horses?  and does God truly make them literally blind?  how do you know the anti-christ's army will actually ride on horses?
 
do you think that the white horse which Jesus comes back from heaven, riding on,  is a real, literal horse,  like we know 4-legged horses?
 
I mean, does he come riding down through space on a horse? or a cloud?
 
why would Jesus ride down on a horse?  did he go up on a horse?  it said he would come back in like manner as he went up.  so did he go up on a horse.
me not trying to be a smarty or anything like that.... just wondering about these things. 
 
i was kind of wondering if these horses and their riders might have to do with those four horses in revelation.  do you have anything on that?  sure would appreciate you explaining that to me.
 
i am just starting to learn a little about all of this,  so please be patient with me.
 
thanks.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:20 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR> Sent: 10/8/2006 9:10 PM
<NOBR>Ge 2:16</NOBR> And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
<NOBR>Ge 2:17</NOBR> But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Now to show you the what the knowledge is -
<NOBR>Ro 3:20</NOBR> Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Adam and  Eve fell fron Grace and went back to law. The law is the knowledge of sin. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen FROM GRACE.

If you go by the law you are debtor to do the whole law and Christ is become of no effect unto you  

Let me explain something here ********

The Lord God commanded the man Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

In the Garden of Eden, before the partook of the tree of good and evil, Adam and Eve were alive, that being, that they were "spiritually" alive. And being spititually alive meaning they walked in perfection, and oneness with God. That is the meaning of true oneness, just as Jesus was one with God, so was Adam and Eve. Just as Jesus was one with the Father, I do only what My FATHER DOES, I say only what my Father says. Jesus and the Father were in true unity with on another. I and my Father are one.**********

On that day when they diobeyed God and ate of the fruit, they died a "Spiritual" death and sin entered in and they were sepatated from God. That is the death. For as in ADAM all die They died in the day that thou eatest thereof . If you partake of that tree ( law) whichs brings death,you are going to die.It is appointed unto man to die and after that the judgement.

 

Dear Isiah,

I like this message. I was taught this in church-so please correct me if I am wrong-But before Adam & Eve at from the tree they were innocent. They did not know what evil was. They were one with God. And then when they ate from the tree, they died. Just like God said they would. They were separated from God spiritually when they ate from the tree. My pastor said that there are 3 types of death. Spiritual, Natural, Eternal. (I think I got that right). So since we are all born in sin-we at birth are spritually separated from God. That is why we need to accept Jesus Christ. For without him we can never be with God the father because of sin. I wish more people would understand that. Thanks for that greatr message. Tweety.



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:20 AM
From: Isaiah Sent: 10/9/2006 2:50 PM
message 24........... now that one is funny..........  

message 25...... So since we are all born in sin-we at birth are spritually separated from God. ( TWEETY)


Tweety, I do not see it that way, We are not borned in sin. Jesus has cleaned us all.

The being born in sins and iniquity refers to those born before Jesus�?time. Jesus said in ......

<NOBR>Mt 18:3</NOBR> And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

<NOBR>Mt 19:13</NOBR> Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
<NOBR>Mt 19:14</NOBR> But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

, Of such is the Kingdom of Heaven. They had not yet rebelled against him.

You come into the world as a clean baby; but when you hear and reject Jesus, go out and commit sin, then you are lost and on your way to hell fire.

Anyone who denies this, please give Scripture saying babies are sinners and on their way to hell; I mean in the NT. If this were true, Jesus would not have accepted those little children, He said the kingdom was of their kind. So, if they were evil and defiled, how could this be true? Jesus cleansed us all there on the cross, and that includes being borned from birth, we were cleansed by the blood of Jesus. How can a baby sin that knew no sin?    



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 12/12/2007 3:22 AM
P.s.  we all got in on this study and had a real good time of it.  I do wish more of these kind could come forth.
But there is still a good many more posts in the original thread, as I think there is enough in this one,  so I will again start a new thread for the rest of this study.

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