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Sent: 10/14/2004 6:48 PM

1 Tim3:16- And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. ( God, meaning God the Father was manifested in the flesh. In other words God put in spirit in Jesus and manifested his glory in his son Jesus Christ. Just like his spirit is in us and we are to manifest God on this earth. Manifest means to make known or reveal. That’s all that means. It doesn’t mean that God himself came to earth. It also does not mean that God himself came forth from Mary’s womb. The eternal God was not borned of woman. God was in Christ. The eternal God was not taken to no cross, where sinful man grabbed him up and nailed him to the cross and killed him, and put the eternal God in hell. No, his fleshly son Jesus came on this earth and did.

Jesus was made sin for us and put in hell because of us. It was not for something that he did. He did it willingly for us. The eternal God didn’t do that. He sent his son and we will see more of this in this study. God was in Christ, remember where he read that God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself.

He said in John chapter 17 �?You’re in me�?( Talking to the Father) and I’m in you. I’m in them and they are in me that we all maybe one as you and I are one.�?( God the Father was in Jesus but it also said that Jesus was in God. It said that Jesus is in us, but it also says that we are in Jesus. There is where the mystery is. He puts his spirit in us but he also put our spirit in him.

From: joie

Sent: 10/14/2004 6:49 PM

Mateo, believe me, I know the deception you are under......for I was also at one time under this same deception.....but God himself spoke to me and brought me out of the deception.....

Now just study these things without being antagonistic. Read for your own sake....

open your heart up and let God speak to you.......else you will never see truth.....

Now.....

I explained how Isa. 9: 6 is........it was NOT speaking of Jesus the Son of Mary........ [please take the time to study my message on Emmanuel]....it is a stationary page here........so you can find it easy..

Jesus was the VIRGIN, which bore the manchild........which was the Emmanuel.....which was the beginning>>>>>but the beginning of WHAT?

I also have a message here explaining this,,,,,,,the Beginning.

It does NOT mean Jesus was the Beginning of eternity.........for eternity had no beginning...it is saying that Jesus is the BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF SONS IN GODS IMAGE.........BUT THIS STARTED AT HIS RESURRECTION.

Now, Jesus was the one who brought forth a Son of God in the image of God,,,,,,not Mary. That Son of God was Jesus' own perfected life............. same as we must accomplish........at our resurrection.........to bring forth a Son of God into glorification.

Jesus is the Virgin who brought forth Emmanuel.....not Mary. It was Jesus at His own resurrection. It was the Son of Jesus. Christ in US,,,,,,,CHRIST IN JESUS..........THE HOPE OF GLORY.

Glorification..........at resurrection........which will not be accomplished unless we bring forth Christ in our own lives....

God set Jesus up on His own throne to be our God and our Father.........this is how Jesus is now almighty. But this does NOT MEAN JESUS IS GOD.......NOR THAT GOD IS NOT ALMIGHTY......THEY ARE ONE WITH EACH OTHER........NOT [1].....AS MEANING JUST [1] BEING.

Sure the Father was in Jesus..........BUT......did you never read that Jesus was also IN THE FATHER?

Again read John 17.-v22---[have any of you ever read this?]-------And the glory which THOU GAVEST ME.....[see someone GAVE this glory to Jesus]-----I have GIVEN THEM; [now does this make us God?]---that they may be ONE, EVEN -------AS-----WE [WE IS PLURAL]---ARE---ONE.

v21---that they ALL [how many?}----ALL----may be-----ONE-------; AS----thou [you]---Father, are in me, and I in thee,,,that THEY also may be-----ONE-----in us: that the world may believe ---[what? that Jesus is God? did he say that?}----believe what?-----that thou [ you]....hast SENT ME...........

Now Jesus did not say that the world may believe that I am God and that I came to earth,,,,being God in flesh.....now did he? If this is the truth,,,,,,,,then WHY........why......did not Jesus say so?

Why are all of you saying something which Jesus himself never taught?

If Jesus and His Father being ONE means they are the same 1,,,,,then how are we all ONE?? If the Father being IN Jesus made Jesus the Father,,,,,,,then how it is they are in us? Are we the Father?

Better do some serious studying and QUIT listening to lies.

Did Not Paul say, You are ALL......ONE?

Did not Jesus also say, My Father is GREATER THAN I?

Why is it none of you ever go to that Scripture? Afraid of truth? Lies will not save you. You must believe the truth.

Truth must match and fit ALL SCRIPTURE. Fit your belief into these Scriptures in John 17

Show me where the Word said God came to earth in human flesh........It does not say that.

Sure Jesus manifested God..........so did Paul ........and Peter....and John.....and me.

From: joie2

Sent: 12/31/2004 8:36 PM

Hello Apostolicminister. It is good to hear from you again.

I see you are still not studying and asking God to teach you truth. We have already taken everything you have said here and truly explained how you are missing the real truth of each of those verses. I will not do so again right now. It is no use. If you did not read what I wrote before and study those verses you REFUSE to deal with, then you will not do so now either.

If Jesus is his own Father, it makes not one bit of sense how he continually speaks of His Father. It is very clear that he is not speaking of himself and calling himself his own father.

Both His Father and He are our saviour because His father sent his son here to die for us. Thus both are our saviour. Jesus is never one time said to be God. Sure I showed you how God set Jesus up to be worshipped as God with the God kingdom.

The Word is not Jesus. The word spoke through Jesus most of the time. Jesus had the Word inside himself. There is one God AND one mediator BETWEEN GOD AND MEN -----THE----MAN-CHRIST Jesus.

Now deal with that one for a change. If you do not desire truth, you will die in your lies and be lost. Lies is the sand the house which fell was built upon. You are on a false, sand foundation. It does not match what Peter confessed to believing and which Jesus said is the true foundation.

Now if you do not wish to build on the true foundation, your spiritual house will crumble and fall. So will everyone else's house which is build on these lies.

Jesus Christ bore the Son of God which is the EMMANUEL, not Mary. Emmanuel is Christ. Christ is a total DIFFERENT generation from Jesus.

Count the generations from Abraham to Christ and you will find that Jesus is generation 41, while Christ [Emmanuel] is generation 42. Now what do you make of that? How do you get around this?

From: Isaiah

Sent: 4/21/2004 8:41 PM

Jn.8:40 -"But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God."

Jn.14:28 - "My Father is greater than I."

Acts 17:31 - "Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead."

1 Cor.11:3 - "The head of Christ is God."

Col.3:1 "Christ sitteth on the right hand of God."

1 Tim.2:5 - "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

From: Isaiah

Sent: 4/21/2004 9:05 PM

Lu 4:41 - And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.

Lu 8:28 - When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.

Joh 1:34 -And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

Joh 1:49 - Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

From: joie

Sent: 1/9/2003 11:59 AM

Now, what are 'the seven eyes on one stone' mentioned at the start of Zechariah?

Now this questions is very easy to answer:

The stone is Jesus; he is the rock foundation of the Church.

The seven eyes are the seven Spirits of God. Proof:

Rev. 1:4-- 4. John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Revelation 3

1. And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Rev. 4: 5. And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Rev. 5: 6. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Now, this is the only way to teach. When you can give exact Scripture for the things which I will raise questions to later, then we will consider them. But unless you know Scripture for what you say, then it is just someone's surmissings, which are ALWAYS WRONG.

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