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| | | From: joie (Original Message) | Sent: 7/13/2005 2:04 AM |
What kind of spirit did those Jews of old have? Were they murderers? Did they have love and compassion? Let the Word of God tell us:
| Then the high priest rose up, and all they that were with him, (which is the sect of the Sadducees,) and were filled with indignation, | And laid their hands on the apostles, and put them in the common prison.
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(sorry for the lines, but it is the only way I can keep the referrences from moving down; this thing I copy from does crazy) Now the above, the Jews, their high priests, putting the Apostles in to prison was in resopnse to healings done by them. {was this nice, love? or was it hateful?} | When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them. |
this desire to slay, kill, the apostles was in response to truth Peter told them. they had murder in their heart for these true apostles of Jesus. They were MURDERERS and HATEFUL. | And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. |
So these 'nice' jews had to BEAT these apostles before they let them go. Nice, huh? | Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen. | | And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spake. | | Then they suborned men, which said, We have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses, and against God. | | And they stirred up the people, and the elders, and the scribes, and came upon him, and caught him, and brought him to the council, | | And set up false witnesses, which said, This man ceaseth not to speak blasphemous words against this holy place, and the law: |
They set up false witnesses against Stephen. Sound familar? Sure, those Jews did this way back against Naboth and also against Jesus to have them killed. Nice folks, eh? I am tired. Will try to resume this later. Want to get into all the horrible things those 'nice jews' did to Brother Paul. Do any of ever read the Word? |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 7/14/2005 11:51 PM |
I could do a long message one this subject, but for now I will only give a few verses. This is about Paul and how he was mistreated by his countrymen, THE JEWS. | Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews: |
| I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. | | And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. |
See that before Paul became a Christian, he also was persecuting and killing the Christians. He did this as A JEW. | And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee: | | And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. | | And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles. | | And they gave him audience unto this word, and then lifted up their voices, and said, Away with such a fellow from the earth: for it is not fit that he should live. | | And as they cried out, and cast off their clothes, and threw dust into the air, |
| And when it was day, certain OF THE JEWS banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul. | | This man was taken OF THE JEWS, and should have been killed of them: then came I with an army, and rescued him, having understood that he was a Roman. |
| And Festus said, King Agrippa, and all men which are here present with us, ye see this man, about whom all the multitude OF THE JEWS have dealt with me, both at Jerusalem, and also here, crying that he ought not to live any longer. |
| OF THE JEWS five times received I forty stripes save one. | | For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have OF THE JEWS: |
Now all of this and more, is in the Word of God, showing how evil and murderous the Jews have always been. Am I evil to say the very same thing? Judge righteous judgment. |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 7/14/2005 11:57 PM |
Who are the TRUE JEWS? Those of you who take issue with the ones who know the truth and are not into 'jews' worship, will hate, bad-name and tear down a true Jew, which is the CHIRSTIANS. See, those folks you contend for, and fight for are NOT THE TRUE JEWS. The children of the flesh are NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD. Yet you hate the children of God and love those who murdered them. | For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: | | But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. |
When will you all study the Word and LEARN? |
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Why do folks persecute the Jews ? There is no Jew or Gentile today, Paul wrote about that also. There is only the preaching of Satan, that Jews and Gentiles still exist, the Jews we condemn are dead and buried, we are in the last days, we are the way man was created in the beginning, the human race. Those folks known as Jews have received their reward, it is important to remember that Paul was a Jew, and the Messiah forgave and saved him. As you can see, only Yahweh knows the heart of men. It is wrongly understood that Noah preached for 120 years and only saved 8 people, that cannot be true, many had died believing Noah, they had been saved, for on the day of the flood, there were only 8 who still believed that were alive, as I say so often, the bible is a spiritual language, one has to rely on the Holy Spirit to teach him [her], you cannot wrestle understanding with a fleshly mind.
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I could do a long message one this subject, but for now I will only give a few verses.
This is about Paul and how he was mistreated by his countrymen, THE JEWS.
| Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews: |
| I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. |
| And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. |
See that before Paul became a Christian, he also was persecuting and killing the Christians. He did this as A JEW.
| And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee: |
| And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. |
| And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles. |
| And they gave him audience unto this word, and then lifted up their voices, and said, Away with such a fellow from the earth: for it is not fit that he should live. |
| And as they cried out, and cast off their clothes, and threw dust into the air, |
| And when it was day, certain OF THE JEWS banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul. |
| This man was taken OF THE JEWS, and should have been killed of them: then came I with an army, and rescued him, having understood that he was a Roman. |
| And Festus said, King Agrippa, and all men which are here present with us, ye see this man, about whom all the multitude OF THE JEWS have dealt with me, both at Jerusalem, and also here, crying that he ought not to live any longer. |
| OF THE JEWS five times received I forty stripes save one. |
| For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have OF THE JEWS: |
Now all of this and more, is in the Word of God, showing how evil and murderous the Jews have always been. Am I evil to say the very same thing? Judge righteous judgment. | |
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Jo, Christians as a group are no more holy than any other group, and you know it. You are fond of saying, unless it is written in the bible you do not believe it, well where is it written that the Christians are the true Jews ? Now I am speaking of the KJV 1611, because these new bibles written by man, those who change the bible from it's orginal writtings to suit their aims, not holding to the aims of Yahweh. You cannot find it, so you need to stop trying to make fleshly statements to suit your opinions, for truly I tell you, the scriptures are not for man, but to refresh the spirit. Man will not be obedient, for the flesh is too weak. In the Kingdom you will not find any jews or christians, so why assocciate with either, I will tell you why you do this, because you cannot see the Messiah as Yahweh, therefore you cannot see yourself as Yahweh, so you must belong to some group you can see, and declare yourselves as holy. Look this is a spiritual
language, these 3 ARE ONE! That is spiritual talk, unless you are in the spirit, you cannot see it, in the flesh this does not make sense, how can 3 apples be one ? Take a rest from the flesh, and get into your spiritual self more.
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 7/17/2005 1:22 AM |
Look this is a spiritual language, these 3 ARE ONE! That is spiritual talk, unless you are in the spirit, you cannot see it, in the flesh this does not make sense, how can 3 apples be one ? Take a rest from the flesh, and get into your spiritual self more. [Eric]
So, you think you understand spiritual talk, eh? You think you understand what.. these 3 are one means? Then please explain it! Now it did not say these 3 of something became 1 of something. That is NOT what is being stated. that very faulty reasoning is why the jesus-only folks thing God was saying there is only 1 person in a God-head. No, God was not saying that 3 somethings became 1 something. That is sheer foolishness. The word 'one' here means in a unity, of which it is necessary for there to be more than 1. There must be At least two or more for a true 'oneness' to exist. The foolishness of the 'oneness' teaching is that it takes more than 1 to have a 'oneness.' So, do you understand? No you do not. and I gave the Scripture saying that the Christians are the true Jews. Sure I know that in Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek or any other brand of people. But that is ONLY in Christ, which most people are NOT in Christ. The only reason I am saying this about Jews is because people think that because Jesus was born a natural Jew, that this somehow makes those natural Jews something special. It is a lie. The people of FAITH are the ones God loves and cares for. but this 'jew lie' causes people to believe the natural, God-hating physical jews, (if there is such a thing), are the ones they should love and bless. Those evil Jews have pounded this lie so much in church that almost everyone falls prey to this lie, even our government.! So it is important to know this truth. Nothing in God's Word is unimportant. learn this! Unless you learn the truth about Jews, you will never really understand the fake church today. No, the Word of God does not teach any yahsuer as you claim. It is a lie, made up of jew worshippers! Jo |
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 7/17/2005 1:38 AM |
The Israelites came up to the very border of Cannan, looked over into it, saw the beauty and the blessings, but turned and walked away in UNBELIEF. Thus they failed to make it into Cannan. They looked right over into the promised land, turned and walked away from it in unbelief! Many, many people have come in here, Build on the True Foundation, looked over into the promised land of true revelation, and turned and walked away in unbelief, to wander around in a wilderness of confusion for the rest of their lives! What a shame! Many folks who are deceived by law, Sabbath Keeping and such, have come in here and seen the truth of Grace taught, but they turned and walked away into the darkness and blindness of law, to wander around in confusion the rest of their lives. Many trinity folks have come in here and seen the absolute proof that this is a false teaching, with not one word of its teaching written in the Word of God. But they also turned and walked away into the darkness and blindness of lies and confusion. They reject the Word of God for the lies of Satan. Also many jesus-only folks have come in there and seen the full proof that their teaching is anti-christ and has not one single Scriptural proof in it. They have seen that there is no way Jesus could be his own father, yet they turn and walk away after the lies of Satan. I asked them questions which, if they tried to answer, would prove beyond a doubt that they are holding to false teachings. Yet instead of seeking the real truth, they turn and walk away into the night of false doctrine. They will all wander around in their wilderness of confusion until they lose their souls in hell fire, for full well they reject the Word of God for lies. What a shame! JO |
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Deut 6:4 hear O Israel, Yahweh our Elohim is a unity.
Yahweh is manifested in everything you and I can see and not see.
Of course you do not see this, because your mind is made up, not according the will or teachings of the Holy Spirit, but according to the teachings of man's wisdom. How many times must Yahweh tell you that His ways is not as man's [flesh-carnal] ?
It is written that almost the whole world is fooled by Satan, Christians make up a large portion, then Muslims and Jews, but the elect of Yahweh is few and far between, hard to find. Even us find it hard not to be fooled by Satan at times, if it were not for the Holy Spirit, being alive and well in us, we too would fall for the maddness of religion.
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| | | From: joie | Sent: 7/20/2005 1:51 AM |
.....THE MADNESS OF RELIGION.......now I do like that term......and it is sooo true! But know what? The glorious Holy Ghost, which Jesus gave to me, has led me out of that madness..........glory! He told me to leave them all........and I did........now I dwell in the presence of My wonderful God each and every day....not Sunday....or saturday.......but DAILY......as the Apostles did, so do I. Jesus led me out to victory.........those who are LED of the Spirit, these are the Children of God. HE will lead you and guilde you into all truth........those not being led,,,,,,,,,and led,,,,,,,,and led,,,,,,,,,into more and more truth.......are not being led of the Spirit......it is not a once in a life time move.....it is DAILY. Praise Him who is above us all. me |
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