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On Jesus only : 'Jesus-only' expounded, by Tweety
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 5/19/2008 9:42 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR> Sent: 5/19/2008 8:40 AM
 I just thought I would show you what I wrote on the other board. Before they deleted it. I know that they will. Have a good day. Off to work.  Tweety
 
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR>  in response to Message 23 Sent: 5/19/2008 8:35 AM
Was Jesus Christ devine from birth? And if so, why did he not perform miracles when he was a child? Or did he? So he was God HIMSELF when he was born?
Are you saying that GOD THE FATHER (WHO IS A SPIRIT) Got up off the throne, and put on flesh and came down here? And your saying GOD did this?
God is so powerful, all he had to do is speak what he wanted from heaven and it would be. Maybe he lost some power or did not feel like using it. So if you say that GOD(Who is a Spirit) came down here with flesh to teach us HIS WAY-why not do it from heaven? And if GOD could do that-why send HIS SON? Oh! I forgot. Jesus CHRIST is the FATHER AND THE SON. So The Father and Jesus Christ were here on earth and the Holy Ghost was on the throne while the Father was here?
I take that back. Jesus Christ is the Holy Ghost too. So in reality nobody was in heaven. They were all on earth teaching us. I bet you that is how Satan got in and made all of those angels rebel. You know: When Daddy is away the angels will play? And then Jesus Christ died. And he raised himself from the grave. I guess he got tired of wearing the flesh suit. And he rose from the grave after 3 days, and went to heaven. Did he have the same flesh as when he died? 
Let us talk about John the Baptist. He had the Holy Ghost inside of him inside his mothers womb. So if Jesus is the Holy Ghost. That means Jesus was inside of John the Baptist. So we could also say that John The Baptist was GOD too. I guess it was a plan between God and John The Baptists parents. So the Holy Ghost was inside John the Baptist, and then who did he Baptise? Jesus!!! Yeah that's right. So Jesus Who is GOD, jumped out of John the Baptist and went behind a bush and put the flesh back on, and came down the road. And John says here comes the Lamb of GOD. And God came down the road because he had to be baptised because somewhere between his birth and baptisim he sinned. God sinned? Yes. and he had to be baptised because baptisim takes away sin. Now, while GOD and John the Baptist were standing in the river the Holy Ghost came down from heaven. (How did he get there?). Well Jesus since Jesus Christ is the Holy Ghost and divine too can be in 2 places at once. So he told the Holy Ghost to go and check on heaven and come back down. And when Jesus who is GOD came straightway out of the water-he looked up and saw the HOLY descending like a dove from heaven. See God can change into a dove too. But if Jesus is God and he was being baptised-how did he get up into the air and change into a dove, and then he had to race back down and put the flesh back on and get back into the water.? When you say Jesus was devine-HE sure was. Why was he being baptised again? Oh Yeah! God sinned and had to have His sins remitted!
 
I just thought I would explain to everyboody how thsi oneness stuff that you are spewing forth sounds. Please visulize this while you are reading it. Because that is the way it looks to me on some of your explanations. Please read the Bible, and stop going by what man says. Read for yourself. Don't have someone else dictate to you what you should believe. Have a blessed day.  Tweety



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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 5/22/2008 12:05 AM
I just thought I would paste this here so everyone could read what I posted on another board. I have not finished with this person yet.  Tweety
 
 
Omniscient----all-knowing. He knows everything about all things.

Then if Jesus is all knowing, then why did he say this? (Tweety)

Mark 13:32 (KJV)
13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

So I ask you this: If he was God then why would he say that neither the angels or the Son or man know the hour when the second coming will happen, but only the Father? You claim Jesus is the Father, so why did he not know this? Did Jesus lie to us? And you say that the Son and the Father are the same? So which is it? Do you not see that they are two different things? God the Father is omniscient. While Jesus was here with us-he was not all knowing. For if he was, then please explain this scripture: (Tweety).

Isaiah 7:14-16 (KJV)
7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.
16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.

Now if Jesus was God he would already know good from evil. You did say above that he knows all things. And it says right here in the above passage that he may know to refuse the evil and choose the good. If he was GOD he would always choose the good. He had to learn what good and evil was. If he was GOD and all knowing he would already know. Let us look at another scripture: (Tweety).

Isaiah 11:1-4 (KJV)
11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
 

This above passage is speaking of Jesus. You can not say that GOD The Father was the stem of Jesse.  Jesse was a man. For the Father GOD has no FATHER. And I ask you would Jesus Christ if he were GOD he had to learn to fear HIMSELF? I guess you might say that he was afraid of HIS own shadow. (Tweety).
 

Let us examine this scripture and see what you come up with?

John 3:16-18 (KJV)
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Now Jesus Christ HIMSELF said these words. How can you not know what he says? If Jesus said that GOD HIS FATHER loved this world so much, that he sent his only begotten SON to save us. How can you twist that scripture to read that Jesus is the FATHER? It would read like this: I loved the world so much that I sent myself into this world so that whosoever believeth in me should not perish, but have everlasting life. For I sent myself not to condemn the world, but that the world through me might me saved. You would have to change scripture in order for the scripture to read the way you believe. (Tweety).

Another scripture that I would like for you to take a look at:

Matthew 19:17 (KJV)
19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Why would Jesus Christ say he was not good if he were GOD? He said GOD was the only one that was good. And that he was not good. (Tweety).

Jesus Christ never claimed to be a Spirit. But made up of flesh and bones. Even after the resurrection Jesus Christ was flesh and bones.

Luke 24:39-40 (KJV)
24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

John 19:34 (KJV)
19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

So are you saying now that GOD has blood? A Spirit does not have blood. (Tweety).

If Jesus said the above then why would you say that Jesus Christ is GOD? For Jesus Christ HIMSELF said that GOD WAS A SPIRIT: (Tweety).

John 4:24 (KJV)
4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
 

Did not the New Testament writers called the Father, The GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. Let us look at the scriptures and see:

Ephesians 1:3 (KJV)
1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Ephesians 1:17 (KJV)
1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Ephesians 3:14 (KJV)
3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

1 Peter 1:3 (KJV)
1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Matthew 27:46 (KJV)
27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

John 20:17 (KJV)
20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

And Jesus Christ has always in scripture been called the "SON OF GOD". NOT GOD HIMSELF: (Tweety).

2 John 1:3-4 (KJV)
1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.

Matthew 16:27 (KJV)
16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Revelation 1:6 (KJV)
1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Revelation 14:1 (KJV)
14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Matthew 7:21 (KJV)
7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

On  occasions Jesus thanked HIS FATHER THAT WAS IN HEAVEN, (For GOD ALWAYS HAS AND ALWAYS WILL DWELL IN HEAVEN.) Now if Jesus was GOD why would he lift up his eyes towards heaven? Do you know where heaven is? (Tweety).

John 11:41-42 (KJV)
11:41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.


Omnipotent--all-powerful. His power is sovereign above all power.

Show me in scripture where he showed any power and he contributed that power to HIMSELF (Tweety)

 
Omnipresent--all-present. He is everywhere at all times.

I would need to see that in scripture also where Jesus Christ was one place and somewhere else at the same time (Tweety)

 
You do not need to know Hebrew to understand the Bible; that is why God sanctioned His word to be translated into language we can understand.

Are you saying that GOD commanded somebody to write the Bible in English? When was this done? (Tweety)

You do absolutely have to have the help of the Holy Spirit to guide and teach and help you understand; otherwise, you are just reading words.

I would also suggest that you read the words and understand them also. (Tweety).

 
God's word is living and just as relevant today as it was in the past.
 
And this....Jesus was NOT just like you and me when He went to that cross; otherwise, he could not have done what he did....He went into the depths of hell to pay OUR sin debt so we would not have to.

He was just like us. His soul went to hell. And if you keep twisting GOD's words your soul will end up there too, and you will not be preachin when you get there either. (Tweety).

 
Tweety.....if you believe that Jesus was not divine and Holy...you are being blinded by satan..

I read the WORD of GOD. I study to show myself approved. I study and read atleast 20 chapters a day. How much do you read? How many chapters? (Tweety).

.because as long as you do not understand the truth satan has you in his grips.

I say the same to you. Read your Bible. God will open your eyes to the truth. NOT being on a board discussing what you clearly do not understand. (Tweety).

...that is true of all people who refuse to believe the truth.

I believe what is written in GOD's WORD ALL OF IT. (Tweety).

 
Do not let satan win...

Satan can never win. I showed you that you are wrong. So somebody must have mislead you.... Satan perhaps? (Tweety).

give your life to the Lord Jesus Christ....get to the Father in Heaven through His precious Son because there is no other way.

I say the same to you. (Tweety).

 
Blessings.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 5/22/2008 1:30 AM
Thank you, for posting this here for us, Tweety.  It is a master-piece of work.
 
You sure got into the ministry with this message.  good work, girl.  and may you increase in faith and ability to fight this good fight of faith.  wish more people could and would get into the true ministry of upholding the Word of God.
 
Bless you, In Jesus name.
Jo

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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 5/22/2008 2:57 AM
Very good message,Tweety, why no one understands this great message is a mystery to me.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 5/22/2008 3:02 AM
Amen, brother.  same reason they cannot understand any Scripture....blinded by false teachers......do not study for themselves.  This seems to be Tweety's message  >>> study the Word for yourself.  Great admontion.

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