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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 9/4/2008 1:46 AM
Romans 1: 4-4.  And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
 
 Jesus was declared to be the Son of God (notice it did not say he was declared to be God - it said the Son of God, by the   RESURRECTION  from the dead.
 
Rev. 1: 5.  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
 
Now Rev. 1: 5 says that Jesus Christ was the first  BEGOTTEN OF THE DEAD. 
 
Does not this agree with Romans 1: 4?
Do you agree with this?  or do you call it evil also?
 
Hebrews 1
 1.  God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
 2.  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
 3.  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

 4.  Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
 5.  For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

 6.  And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
 7.  And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
 
Now here God said He brought His first begotten into the world and told even the angels to worhip this Son.  Thou are my Son, this day have I begotten thee.  what day did God beget this son?  Let Peter answer it.
(do you think Jesus beget himself?)
 

 8.  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
 9.  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
 
See this anointing by God to Jesus is the same as Isa. 61?  He put his Spirit upon his servant?  Same anointing, see?
 
Here is Peter's answer ~ 
 
Acts 13: 29.  And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.
 30.  But God raised him from the dead:

 31.  And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
 32.  And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,

 33.  God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
 
( Now see, again God declares that He begot this Son on the Day of the RESURRECTION.  This is the apostles Peter's words ~~ I thought you claim to believe the Apostles' doctrine ---- well this is the apostles Peter's doctrine ---- that God beget the Son Jesus at the  RESURRECTION.  See same doctrine the Apostle Paul taught in Romans 1: 4.
 
 I am teaching exactly what Peter and Paul taught.  Also John, for he said the same thing in Rev. 1.

 34.  And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
 35.  Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
 
( now these verses above prove that Jesus was corruptible.  God is declared to be uncorruptible (Rom. 1)  and that it is a reprobate who claims God is corruptible man.  But this declares that Jesus was corruptible man.
 
So who is teaching truth,  me or those who claim Jesus in the flesh was God?  I say exactly what the Apostles taught.  So I am the apostolic    - not you.
 
Now see Peter spoke of the crucifixion of Jesus, then of God raising him from the dead and quotes Psalms 2 Thou are my Son, this day have I begotten thee ~~~~ and said the day of the RESURRECTION  was the day this was fulfilled.
 
See the proof that the day of the  RESURRECTION is the day God begot this Son of God in His likeness and his image.  Jesus is the image of the invisible God.
 
God anointed His son to be God with the God kingdom.  Do you hate this truth?  Why?
 
By:  Jo Smith
 



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/19/2008 3:12 AM
I understand fully, that you are delusional and totally out of the Word of God.
Jesus Never said he was a god, nor did he ever say he was equal with God.  the Jews falsly ACCUSED him of this lie.
They lied all the time about Jesus, just as you do about me.
 
The Word of God came to ANGELS, then angels took it to the PROPHETS, who then gave it to the people.
 
The ANGELS are these gods in psm. 82.  not human beings.
 
Jesus Christ was made LOWER than angels.  Heb. one.
surely you have read that?
 
Not one single one of us is BORN OF GOD.  We are born of flesh.  Jesus was born of FLESH....human flesh.
 
Jesus is the only one of us, who has been born of God, at this present time.
 
We now wait for the REDEMPTION OF OUR BODY.  We will then have a glorified body, like unto the glorious body which Jesus was given at his RESURRECTION.
 
But until then,  we are MORTAL, CORRUPITABLE FLESH, with the    Holy Ghost of God in those of us who have that Spirit.  You do not have it, for you deny the way it comes to us.
 
You are the one who is delusional.  You deny the true Baptism of the Holy Ghost, then claim you are a god.  bull-- you know what.
 
Jesus never said he was god.   those Jews LIED about him.  They knew no truth.  they also SAID HE WAS A DEVIL.  DO YOU BELIEVE THEM IN THAT?  if not, why believe that other junk they said?
 
They accused him of casting out devils by the spirit of satan.  you believe that?
 
If we cannot be born of God, coming from this fleshly life, then no one will ever be born of God.  You are just plain stupid.
 
To say that humans do not have a human spirit/mind is just plain stupid. and ignorant.  then we are not in the image of God at all.  He is not flesh.  So it has to be that we also have a spirit/ mind.
 
I showed you this once before, but you are dull of hearing.  here it is again, proof that man has a spirit of man.
 
<NOBR>1co 2:11</NOBR> For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the SPIRIT OF MAN which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Now call that a lie if you must,...but he said  man has a SPIRIT OF MAN IN HIM.

You are the liar and the deceived one.

A person has their own spirit BEFORE GOD GIVES US HIS SPIRIT.  else we could not live not one minute.

babies are not born with the spirit of God, or of satan in them.  yet they have a spirit of life, which is the babies own human spirit.

 

stop your foolish talk.  woman, you have no truth at all.  all you are is a babblying , babblying , tinkling symbol, without any distinction of SOUND.  babblying, babblying, is all you ever do!!!   begin to speak plainly, if you can.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/19/2008 2:30 PM
 
Skyangel says: Jesus never said He was NOT God either, nor did He say he was NOT equal to God.
If the Jews  accusations were false. Does this mean the WORD of God contains lies  or do you think the WORD of God is 100% TRUTH ?

Me:  foolish woman.  Just because the Jews and Satan's words are recorded in the bible, does NOT MEAN THAT THEIR WORDS ARE GOD'S WORDS

How you do err in your thinking!  God told us the truth.  He told us of the lies those jews told on Jesus, just as you continually tell them on me.

 

Besides I have much to do today and am not going to sit here and read your junk today.  so the rest of your mess here, will go unread.  I am about sick of your foolishenss and refusal to try to learn any truth.

 

go ahead down your road of destruction.  you do not wish to come into God's truth, so He will let you die in your delusions and sins.  but know now,  that you are NOT god and will never be god.   silly, silly, silly.  it is the same old lie of satan/adam/.  his spirit you do have.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/19/2008 2:39 PM
<NOBR>Re 1:1</NOBR> The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

<NOBR>Heb 1:13</NOBR> But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
<NOBR>Heb 1:14</NOBR> Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

<NOBR>Re 7:2</NOBR> And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
<NOBR>Re 7:3</NOBR> Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads(the seal is the Holy Ghost.)

<NOBR>Re 14:6</NOBR> And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

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<NOBR>Ho 13:13</NOBR> The sorrows of a travailing woman shall come upon him: he is an unwise son; for he should not stay long in the place of the breaking forth of children.
<NOBR>Ho 13:14</NOBR> I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

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<NOBR>Ro 1:3</NOBR> Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
<NOBR>Ro 1:4</NOBR> And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

<NOBR>Ac 13:30</NOBR> But God raised him from the dead:
<NOBR>Ac 13:31</NOBR> And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
<NOBR>Ac 13:32</NOBR> And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,
<NOBR>Ac 13:33</NOBR> God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

<NOBR>Ro 6:9</NOBR> Knowing that Christ being raised FROM THE DEAD dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

<NOBR>Col 1:18</NOBR> And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn FROM THE DEAD; that in all things he might have the preeminence.


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<NOBR>Ro 8:21</NOBR> Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
<NOBR>Ro 8:22</NOBR> For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
<NOBR>Ro 8:23</NOBR> And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

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Skydevil,  You are the biggest liar I have ever run into.  If you had one tiny bit of love for me, you would not be working your fingers to death slandering me, making up hideous lies about me.
 
You are so paronoid about me, that it is eating your mind right out of you.  What on earth has you in such a horrible, devil-spiting rage against me?  why are you so at war with me?  I have not picked up the sword and driven out after you.  You are the one persecuting me.
 
any idiot who reads your continual rants and rages against me could easily see that.  You have not taught one single truth here, yet you keep right on pretending that you have some great truth.  You are so steeped in darkness and evil that you call the eternal God, the serpent, which is Satan.
 
You call Jesus the serpent,  which is the devil.
 
Take scripture and prove one thing I teach to be wrong.  YOu have not done it and you cannot do it.  All you can do is run around screeming obsenitites at me, and making up a whole list of lies against me.  and you have the gaul to say you love me and forgive me?  Good gracious,  FORGIVE ME FOR WHAT?  wHAT KIND OF ROTTEN MANAIC ARE YOU?
 
yOU ARE a FILTHY LIAR AND A DECEIVER WORKING FOR sATAN.  I am about fed up with you and your ungodly lies.
 
You change the word of God to fit your filthy lies.  God did not say that his children were gods.  He said that the gods were his children.  big difference.
 
Jesus Christ never taught that he or any other human being is a god.  No apostle taught this lie.  I have already proven to you several times that both Peter and Paul rebuked this lie.
 
I am telling you right now, and I do not care how much your filthy lying mouth claims that it is out of fear or whatever else your rotten mind can come up with.....you have no truth, and I most certainly do not fear one thing from you...
 
but I see that you are the same as many other satanic missionaries, whom satan sent in here.....to try to tear down the glorious truth which God has given to me, and to fight me personnaly, and to stop me from getting some good teaching done here.
 
That is all your rotten mouth is about....slandering me personally,  attacking my site and TRYING TO KEEP ME FROM TEACHING SOME GLORIOUS TRUTH, BY HAVING TO FIGHT YOU ALL THE TIME.
 
SO NOW,  I have had enough of your filthy mouth.
 
Get out of my site.  You are nothing but a mouth for Satan to spew out his filth from.
 
You go right back to the slop hole you came from.  You are nothing but a trouble maker and a lover of evil.
I have not continually picked up evil and slung  it at you.  You cannot stop.  You must not be able to sleep for dreaming up more slanderous words to hurl against me.
 
So now.  I have had it with you.  Out you go!!!
 
You are so stupid, that you think you are born again,  yet still in this human dust body.  such foolishness.  When we are born AGAIN, we will be raised from the dead into IMMORTALITY.
 
Not before.  Sure, we have a portion of it in us now... no you... but those of US WHO DO HAVE THE TRUE HOLY GHOST.
 
But we are NOT BORN AGAIN YET.  WE ARE STILL HERE IN THIS MORTAL,  (HEADED TO DEATH) BODY.  tHAT IS NOT THE NEW BIRTH.  THE NEW BIRTH IS COMING OUT OF THAT GRAVE INTO A NEW BODY OF IMMORTALITY.
 
After we have the NEW BIRTH, we will not be able to die any more, just as Jesus could die no more, after his new birth, resurrection!!!!!!!
 
One more of these kinds of filthy lying posts about me, and you will not post here ever again.  I mean it.  I am sick, sick of your filthy mouth.  If you were a christian, and had any love you would shut up your filthy mouth and study the Word of God.
 
You care nothing for the word of God.  all you want is to slander me.  I refuse to continue this ugly fight with you.  I have much more important things to do than to continually have to defend myself against your ungodly LIES.
 
I tried, and hoped you could drop this stupidity and ungodly war of yours and sincerely study the Word of God.....but no......your words are drawn swords and you want no part of peaceful study.
 
so get out of here.  You are vexing my soul, and I am not going to continue taking up all my time defending myself against your evil attacks!!!!!

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