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I am going to copy and paste a thread here, which was done a good while ago in this group. I had wanted to move this once before, but was too tired. Now again tonight, I found this, and even though I am too tired again, I am going to try and push myself enough to move this. Hope it helps someone to understand why we believe in DEBATE! THIS PERSON, FlowerofGod, started this with:

I believe there should be no debates on the Boards at all. Because debates always end the same way,I also don't believe in leaving a subject on the board that causes so much debate. This group would be such a Christany group if the managers did not alow debate or get into the debates themselves. I dont believe The Heavenly Father wants all fighting over his word.

Thats all I well say, and I say it in Love, not wanting any debate over it.

Now if I spoke out of place, I want to say I'm sorry in the beginning, But I believe no debate no fighting!!!

Love in Christ Deanna

From: <NOBR>

SearERIC</NOBR>

Sent: 11/30/2003 1:35 PM

Angel; we debate, we stir it up & we learn from doing this.

Peace!

From: Isaiah

Sent: 11/30/2003 4:20 PM

AGardenAngel- This is why this board was established. To debate. If you do not want to debate, just do not enter into them. But don't expect everyone to agree with what you post and want to debate you. If you have read the posting guide you would have seen that debate is welcome. If you would also look in the 15 chapter of Acts you can see Paul was doing much disputing and no small dissension and disputation with them.

This is in out posting guide

Debate is welcome and desirable. Do all you want to of debating.

If you disagree with anyone, it is o.k. to say so and give reasons why.

This is not considered 'attacking'. It is part of debating.

From: joie

Sent: 11/30/2003 10:41 PM

Dear Angel,

This is one of Satan's greatest tricks to keep people from learning and helping others with the Word of God. He causes them to think debating is fussing and hate and evil. But it is not. It is absolutely one of the very best ways to get people to the truth. That is if the person wishes to find truth.

Satan is trying to SHUT UP CHRISTIANS. bUT IT IS CHRISTIANS WHO ARE TO SHUT UP SATAN.

We will 'SHUT HIM UP FOR A FULL THOUSAND YEARS AND THEN PEACE WILL BE.'

But until Satan is SHUT UP, then we must dispute and show as many as possible the error which the fake church and her friends have brought up. They are the wife of satan. They are God's enemies and the enemies of everyone's soul.

So do not try to shut up the wrong people. Do not try to shut up those whom God has taught and sent to help teach others.

We will not shut up! We are on the front lines of the BATTLE FIELD FOR GOD. We are in a battle for souls. We are not afraid for the firey darts Satan's evil army shoots at us. God is for us and nothing can by any means hurt us.

I wrote a message way back on this subject. I will try to post it again . Be sure to read it; In favor or Argument.

This is the error of most groups, = no debate. They are totally worthless as far as teaching anyone or doing any real good. They are really just a 'play ground'. Same as most churches;; just play grounds. It will lead to hell.

From: joie

Sent: 11/30/2003 11:10 PM

The Lord Just gave me this to give to you, Angel.

Jesus said to his disciples, will you also go away? Peter said to him To whom shall we go, Lord. Thou hast the WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE.

See? WORDS. Yes, that is it!!!!!! Words. Words of eternal life. What were those words? The Written Scriptures.

Nothing else. All kinds of things are set up and handed out to people as the 'food' for their souls. Poems. Pictures. Jokes. soothing ripples. kind praises. songs. phrases. great mens sayings. how-do-you-dos. see? Understand?

BUT ...........in all this world.....only one kind of WORDS has any true POWER.....only one kind of WORDS has life..eternal life.........and that is the words in the Holy Scriptures. NOTHING ELSE. NOTHING ELSE CAN OR WILL FEED YOUR SOUL... NOTHING ELSE CAN OR WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE.............

THE COMFORT OF THE SCRIPTRURE......NOW~~~~ JUST go through death of your dearest loved-ones. [I have]~~~~ Go through a divorce [I have]......

go through your new home being burned at two years old [I have]. Lay five babies in the grave [I have]. Loose all that you love [I have]... etc.

and I can tell you by experience....nothing in this whole world can comfort you on the inside but the HOLY SCRIPTURES.

Nothing else can prick your heart and convict you of sins and your need for a saviour...only the Scriptures. Nothing else can feed your hungry soul; only the Scriptures......thou hast the WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE.......

but if some slick talker, all churches are slick talkers,,, comes along and hands you a false word, then it will damn your soul to an eternal hell fire......

this is no light matter~~~~~~~~ this is no joking matter........... this is the most serious matter in all existence.......none had better make a mistake here.....none had better take it lightly....none had better let themselves be led astray.........it is too important.......for poems.....for jokes.......for songs........for cute sayings.......for devotionals.....or any such thing..only the pure, true word of God written in the KJV and spoken by Jesus and his apostles can give you salvation for that hell fire.

That is the only comfort for your grief;

that is the only hope of salvation;;

that is the only food for your hungry soul......

so why take chances with it? why think one should not debate with all their might, knowledge, and wisdom to try to get this truth to people?

It is those who play games, words games, poem games. song games. devotional games with souls headed to eternity somewhere ~~~that is the enemy of your soul;;;;; not those of us who spend our whole day and life sitting here as I am right now, my arms and finger almost too tired to keep moving , I just will them to, to tell you all the real truth to try to help you all escape hell fire and find eternal bliss and joy in Heaven; we are the ones who care and love and are sent by God to lead his sheep to his heaven.

No one else will get you there. Only those telling the same WORDS JESUS AND PETER AND PAUL SAID..........I WILL DEBATE AS LONG AS GOD LET'S ME LIVE TO HELP OTHERS FIND THEIR WAY OUT OF THAT JUNGLE OF BRIARS IN THAT FAKE CHURCH WORLD'S FALSE TEACHINGS.

Now if that means nothing to you, pray for understanding. See if peoms and devotionals and word-games will fulfill your spiritual needs? It can never do it.

From: <NOBR>

Freeborn22</NOBR>

Sent: 9/23/2005 10:22 PM

when I was in the back pages and found this, I also found the one and only other post this person did before unjoining. she/he had sent a poem about a butterfly.

and I thought of placing it with this, wish I had, but was too tired. I wanted to show you all what this person had in mind for this board to be 'fed'.

How in this world do so many people think that these silly little poems people make up can take the place of teaching God's truth and feed souls, and lead them into eternal life, is beyond me.

Now we have some in here now you seem to think that studying and learning the truth is something to be mocked. Let me warn you all again, knowing and believing TRUTH is your only hope of salvation.,......so you better hope someone cares enough to study, get the truth and take the time and labour to teach you.

I have sat under preachers who talked about themselves and their own experiences, but that never fed me. I know it takes the Word of God to feed a soul.

Junk, false doctrine, jokes, poems, devotionals will NEVER DO THE JOB. you will starve to death and land in hell fire.

I warn you. Jazz, I hope you read this. You had better get to taking the truth seriously.

Joie

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