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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 1/8/2008 1:38 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 8/13/2007 12:27 PM

For the gospel’s sake

1Cor 9:16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

1co 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

1co 9:18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

1co 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

1co 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

1co 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

1co 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

1co 9:23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

1co 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

1co 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

1co 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 1co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

1Cor 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

1co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

1co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

1co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

1co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

1co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

1co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

1co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

He that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. The carnal minded think they can judge the spiritual, but it is impossible. Many times the spiritual do things which appear wrong to the carnal. They thus try to judge the motives and actions of the Spiritual with their own carnal, human minds. They have no concept of a spiritual understanding of the Word of God, so they have no idea what the spiritual person is doing or why.

Yet they think nothing of joining forces with Satan’s army to belittle and slander and discredit the spiritual person’s actions and words. Thus they are party to standing in the way of sinners and those who would enter in. In their own pride and haughty minds they think themselves able to judge a spiritual person’s words and actions. But in reality all they do is discredit the truth and the means by which God may have moved on his servants and handmaids to try to reach the lost and the unlearned with the Gospel.

Many times in my own life I do things which God has given me understanding of doing, in order to teach the word of God to as many as possible, and have the carnal minded misjudge these things and stab me in the back with their false words of carnality and human thinking.

They know not that they are standing in the way and blocking the work of God which he sent us to do. Paul said to the weak, I became as weak that I may gain the weak. Now the carnal minded would say that Paul was a hypocrite for ‘pretending�?{in their carnal thinking} to be weak when he was not really weak. He was not a hypocrite. He was using their own common grounds in order to reach them with the words of Truth, which he possessed.

To the Jew he became as a Jew in order to reach the Jews with the truth. To those under law, he became as under law in order to reach them, and so on. Was he being a hypocrite to do these things? Of course not. He was using the wisdom which God had given to him in order to reach as many people as he possibly could with the gospel, which he knew he possessed.

So it is today with the spiritual. We use many means to try to reach the unlearned with the words of Truth which God has so graciously given to us. Yet the carnal minded come along and falsely accuse us of being the hypocrite. They are not spiritual enough to correctly judge what a spiritual person is doing or why, so they make the mistake of taking up ‘arms�?against the true servant of God and block him from reaching the ones he is trying to reach with the truth.

People, wake up. Pray.  Instead of fighting those of us who lay our very lives on the altar of sacrifice to try to bring the Word of Truth to as many as possible with the means we have, pray for us and stand with us. Stop fighting the work of God on the grounds that carnal man cannot understand what the spiritual is doing. If we are led of the Spirit, who are you to judge us and say we are being a hypocrite?

If you must set yourself up as judge, at least pray for righteous judgment.

By: Jo Smith ~~ August 13, 2007



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/8/2008 1:38 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameeelyahomaika</NOBR> Sent: 8/13/2007 5:18 PM
"Amen" to this message Freeborn!!
 
If you must set yourself up as judge, at least pray for righteous judgement.
 
This is very well said.It is very important to pray first before judging a fellow christian.
 
eelya

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 8/13/2007 6:54 PM
Thank you, sister Eeyla.  If they were all like you, this kind of thing would be unnecessary.  Your spirit proves to come from Christ.
 
Love ye,
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/8/2008 1:39 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/29/2007 8:46 PM

Galatians 5

1. Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of BONDAGE.

2. Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

3. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

4. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/8/2008 1:39 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/29/2007 8:46 PM
We also know the word teaches the law is NOT of Faith. We know there is no salvation without FAITH. If you live under the law, you fall from Grace, so Jesus is of no effect to you. So it seems very clear to me, from all these Scriptures, that anyone today willfully trying to be justified and sanctified and saved by law, is willfully turning your back on Jesus and salvation.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/8/2008 1:39 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/29/2007 8:47 PM

The law demands sin be punished. There is absolutely NO MERCY under law. God CANNOT grant you mercy under law. It is His Law, which cannot be altered, which says that if you keep one part of the law, you are guilty of it all. It is His Law which demands you be punished if you break that law you are living under. Therefore, God himself, by His own law, cannot grant you mercy and forgiveness if you choose to live by law.

There is no way of mercy, = forgiveness, and deliverance from the punishment except by Grace. If you go back to law, you FALL FROM GRACE. Therefore you cheat yourself out of God’s forgiveness of your sins. So then, you must receive the damnation for your sins.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/8/2008 1:40 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/29/2007 8:48 PM
 

  

Galatians 5

 1.  Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.


 2.  Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
 3.  For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
 4.  Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


 5.  For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
 6.  For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.


 7.  Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?
 8.  This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.


 9.  A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

This leaven he is speaking of is the law.  that is the whole subject in this passage, so it is the leaven which leavens the whole lump.  Paul is saying, a little law, takes completely away any grace.


 10.  I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.

Now, did we not read in Acts 15, that those who tried to make these Christians think they had to keep the law were 'troubling' them and subverting their souls?  Then this is the ones he is saying troubled them and shall bear his judgment.


 11.  And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.


 12. I would they were even cut off which trouble you.

This is strong words ~~  I wish those telling you that you must keep Moses law were cut off. 

 

 13.  For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/8/2008 1:40 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/29/2007 8:48 PM
Sent: 9/16/2002 7:31 PM
 

  

~~~ Deliverance by Grace ~~

Now I will continue to show that deliverance comes only by Grace, not by law.

Genesis 6: 5. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7. And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

8. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 1/8/2008 1:41 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 10/29/2007 8:50 PM

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Gen. 19: 15. And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

16. And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.

17. And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

18. And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:

19. Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

Now see that the only reason Lot and his family was spared this destruction is the same reason Noah and his family was spared --- they had found GRACE in the eyes of the Lord.

Grace saved them. Only by Grace is deliverance from the punishment of sin. Only in grace is any mercy which is forgiveness.

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