See this does not say Satan is an angel.  It says he is TRANSFORMED into an angel of light.  This means he is not really one, but he fakes it.

So my question is this: explain how this 'angel' is a dragon?  How is he a serpent?

Since you all say the serpent is a literal, natural animal, more so a snake,  why do you not say this DRAGON is a literal natural dragon?  And if he is,  how is this angel BOTH a serpent and a dragon?

<NOBR>Re 20:2</NOBR>

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

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Now is this telling me that four different beings are bound in the pit?  Is the old serpent taken and bound,  then the dragon is taken, then Satan and then the Devil is bound?  is that your answer to this verse?

If not, then please explain.  Explain how you all see this serpent to be a literal animal, but you do not see this dragon to be an animal?  or do you?

: <NOBR>Freeborn551</NOBR>

Jack, all of you keep saying that Satan is an angel.  The only Scripture I can associate with Satan being an angel is where is says: <NOBR>2co 11:14</NOBR> And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an ANGEL OF LIGHT. See this does not say Satan is an angel.  It says he is TRANSFORMED into an angel of light.  This means he is not really one, but he fakes it. He is a angel of darkness but able to show himself as a angel of light So my question is this: explain how this 'angel' is a dragon?  How is he a serpent?  Satan has the ability to show himself to anything he like even try to show himself as Jesus Christ's so to deceive the whole world. And God allowed him to do so even to proclaim miracles and wonders. So he will deceive if possible even the very elect all who are not protected by the Holy Spirit.

 

 

 

 

 

I was just looking for something, and found this.  I think it is striking that I brought up this same question of how Dan was a serpent.  No one bothered to try to answer this question.

 

I saw that bill brought up this same question while I was on Tweeties board, trying to take down the truth I teach.  I had brought this up way before he did, yet they will not even consider this verse.  When I showed bill what it really means, he would not deal with it again.

 

So i asked him,  how is Dan a serpent?  Is Dan a literal snake,  as he claims the serpent was a literal snake.  they refuse to even try to get the understanding, as they did  also here.

 

See people will not admit that they are missing something, and seek truth.  This is the very reason they will never find the truth  = they do not want it.

 

If  confronted with Scripture such as this,  and you know it could not possibly fit what you already think things mean,  why turn a deaf ear and just walk away?

 

See, God knows when you do that you are not willing to consider the truth, so He does not try to teach you.  Why try to teach a person who has their own mind stopped up and are content to believe lies?

 

See, they were trying to say the serpent was an animal.   But when confronted with Dan being a serpent, they were speechless.  They were trying to say Satan was an angel,  but when confronted with this truth, they were speechless again.

 

See God said the serpent is the devil and Satan.  They refuse to believe what God said.  then if that serpent is satan, and satan is an angel, then dan is a serpent,  it comes out dan is also an angel.

 

See how all this ties together, and proves their doctrine to be a lie, yet they refuse to be corrected.

proves they hate God's truth and love man's lies.

I thinking about something.  hope some of you give me your thoughts on this.  Tweety, I especially hope you see this.  I will probably put this into a main message soon as I have some free time to study up on it.

 

for now:

<NOBR>Mt 22:28</NOBR>	Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
<NOBR>Mt 22:29</NOBR>	Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
<NOBR>Mt 22:30</NOBR>	For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
<NOBR>Mt 22:31</NOBR>	But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
<NOBR>Mt 22:32</NOBR>	I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

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Dear Freeborn,

I would have to study angels to understand this. I was thinking alot about Adam and Jesus and the seed of the women. I have to study that really good. Those scriptures that he gave with the seed of the women study now really has me thinking about things. I am late for work. See ya. later on. God Bless. Tweety

Dear Tweety,

 

I don't know if I explained what I am trying to say here, or to see.

but as we spoke about,  that at the resurrection, we will be given the glorified body,  like the one Adam had to start with....see, Jesus said we will be AS THE ANGELS........so then Adam must have been AS THE ANGELS, in his original state,  SEE?

 

That original state,  of Adam,  was the ANOINTED CHERUB of Eze. 28-32,  see?

 

After being placed into mortality, or death,  he was then the OX,  see?  But the OX   (Eze one)  is again a CHERUB in Eze. 10.....resurrected, see?  Am I making any sense to you?

 

In the resurrection,  we will go back to what the original state of Adam was  =  glorified,  same as angels.

 

Sons of God,  in GLORIFICATION.  See, Jesus was in GLORY after his resurrection  =  back into the original state of the Son of God,  second man, Adam.

 

I am just too tired right now to get it .  am  feeling sleepy and 'fuzzy'.

 

love ye,  and hope we get into this,  deep enough to swim in that risen RIVER.

 

glory.

Freeborn,

All I can say right now is that Man was created a little bit lower than the angels. That is where I will start my study on this. Have a blessed night. Tweety