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Question&Answer : Who is this monster?
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 3/6/2007 12:06 AM
I am starting a big question.  I want each of you to add to this as you can think of things.  Add to who you think the 'monster' is.
 
The first question:  Who is the MONSTER who ate up all our children?  Who is the MONSTER who stopped children from playing outside? 
 
Who is the MONSTER who devoured Family Life?
 
Answer>>> and add questions.
 
Have fun and LEARN.
 
Jo 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/6/2007 12:53 AM

Who is this MONSTER which teaches small children sex, murder, thieft, hate, disobedience to their parents and robs them of their childhood?

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Who is this Monster who entices men to plunge large butcher knives into women?  Who is this Monster who entices them to commit many murders and rape everyone they can?

Folks, this is no joke.  Such an evil MONSTER is very much on the loose, having free reign in almost every home.

This MONSTER sits in your home, causing you to forget how to converse with your family, causing you to snap at your children and each other.

Someone name this MONSTER. 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/6/2007 1:33 AM

There is a MONSTER on the loose, which is now enticing young women to become mean and violent natured as it has already enticed men to become.  It is now brainwashing many young women to beat up others, to rob, kill and do all manner of evil.  It tells them this is smart.

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This MONSTER entices men and women to be unfaithful to their mates and to leave their children all along, until the children are so mixed up they know not how to live.

This MONSTER breeds hatred between everyone.  It prevents millions of people from ever exercising.  It has robbed homes of family worship, Bible study, and prayer.  (who ever heard of such a thing?)

Yet this MONSTER is so loved, that if one speaks against it, the very ones it is abusing and robbing, will rise up and fight in its defense. 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/6/2007 1:43 AM

Now they say this MONSTER is busy teaching the world to love and become homosexual.  (Do you wish for your children to follow this abominable kind of life?) 

If you leave this MONSTER alone very much longer,  it will lead the whole world into more and more of this sinful living.  It denies God and leads everyone to believe that God is a big, bad joke.

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It teaches people that drinking, smoking, living in bars and taking drugs is the great life.  It teaches young men and women that prostitution is a great way of life.  It mocks the old-time family style of life where love ruled and kindness was the thing.

It leads folks to think that the Catholic religion is the only one to consider.  So why does the world love this evil MONSTER so much?  Why will they spend thousands of dollars, which should go to the families welfare,  to have so many of these hideous MONSTERS in every room of their homes?

Why will ignorant parents even set this filth-teaching MONSTER in their small children's bedrooms?  How did such an evil tool of Satan get such a tight grip on the world?  How many hours a day do you spend loving this MONSTER, and ignoring God and His word?

Think about it, folks.  Do you still expect God to lift you and carry you into His Heavenly World to spend your eternity glorifying and worshipping HIM?  Do you not realize that HE KNOWS YOU DO NOT LOVE HIM. 

 You love this MONSTER.

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By: Jo Smith


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From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381Sent: 3/6/2007 3:50 AM
Haha!!!!!!! great questions
 
I know who this MONSTER is but will not answer it right now, but will give you all another hint.
this MONSTER as was stated can be found just about everywhere, in the homes, in restaurants, and many other places. It used to not be found in churches, but now it can be found in most all of them.
 
Now the hint is this: This MONSTER has just one eye.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/6/2007 4:10 PM
Thank you, Axs.  Yes that is a good clue to identifying this hideous MONSTER. 
 
 I went into a supposed to be holiness church once.  They had a giant MONSTER in their church.  They had fallen so much in love with this MONSTER that they had called off their supposed to be worship service and were sitting watching this monster and some smaller monsters chase a ball around and knocking each other down.
 
Yep, they were as those in Jeremiah, who had their backs to the true Temple of the Lord and were worshipping toward a one-eyed MONSTER, who devours all who sit before it.
 
That one eye is a dark hole with powers unknown to man.  It addicts folks and takes away their brain.  All who sit before this dark hole will be sucked into that evil darkness with it, and lose their soul.  It destroys brain cells and lulls one into a deep, death-like sleep, from which most will never awaken.
 
Yet if you speak against this evil dark hole,  people will hate you, battle you, and call you all manner of evil.  It leads children into total devil worship, never knowing the true and living God.
 
Yet their parents do not care, for they would not depart with their MONSTER for anything in this world, or eternal life.
 
Preachers get paid to 'teach' the word of God,  yet they spend all their time watching this evil MONSTER.  At the last minute, they will recycle someone's old sermon and get paid a hugh salary to speak this worn out old false sermon.
 
But as Jeremiah said,  this is how the people love to have it.  My sisters forbid me to speak of God to them,  yet they will pay some preacher a big salary to speak his lies to them.    Are any sensible folks left?  Or has the MONSTER already devoured wisdom off this earth?
 
There are few who still understand.  We need to pray for each other and hold each other up.  The MONSTER lovers seek to destroy us and hush us up forever.
 
Jo Smith

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/7/2007 11:42 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 3/7/2007 2:00 PM

Dear List,

This is what I was trying to see on TV the other night. I got this article from ODAILYS (STEPHEN). This is a clear example of Satan trying to lure people away from knowing God. I urge everyone that has nver known our LORD and Savior to pick up a Bible and read for yourself the true account of Jesus. You will know then that the below TV documentary they are trying to say is real is in fact a lie. Jesus died and rose again and went to heaven. I feel asleep on it and did not get to see all of it. God did not want me to see the lies that are being put out by him. Study the WORD and know the truth for yourself. Tweety

THE LOST TOMB OF JESUS -

This Sunday the Discovery Channel will debut a made-for-TV documentary titled "The Lost Tomb of Jesus." Filmmakers claim that a tomb in the Talpiot neighborhood of Jerusalem is the final resting place of Jesus of Nazareth and several members of his family. Not only does the documentary seek to undermine the deity of Christ, it attempts to substantiate the Magdalene Heresy made popular by Dan Brown's book The DaVinci Code.

The Talpiot tomb was originally discovered in 1980. It is a large tomb that contained ten ossuaries (an ossuary is a chest that holds skeletal remains). Archaeologists say there is nothing extraordinary about the tomb, but filmmakers believe they have made a discovery that will shake the very foundations of Christianity. They believe the tomb contained the remains of Jesus of Nazareth, as well as his mother Mary, his father Joseph, and other family members. They also speculate that one of the ossuaries found in the tomb contains the remains of Mary Magdalene. According to the filmmakers, their "discovery" supports claims that Jesus and Mary Magdalene where married and may have had children.

A Fraud of Titanic Proportions

The writer, producer, and director of the Discovery Channel documentary is Simcha Jacobovici and its executive producer is James Cameron, the man who brought us the film Titanic. Jacobovici was the driving force behind the documentary, however he is not an archaeologist and his speculations leave many questions unanswered. In fact, most of the scholars who have reviewed his claims - even those who are not Christians - have raised objections to the validity of his assertions. Jacobovici lays out an impressive array of data, including the results of DNA-testing and statistical analysis. However, while Jacobovici does a good job of selling his speculations, he can't actually prove any of them. Scientists and scholars around the world have been quick to point out the many holes in his theory.

When the Talpiot tomb was originally excavated more than 26 years ago, the ossuaries were taken to the Rockefeller Archaeological Museum outside the Old City of Jerusalem. Joe Zias, who was the curator for anthropology and archeology at the museum from 1972 to 1997, personally numbered the Talpiot ossuaries. Zias has criticized on the Discovery Channel documentary saying, "Projects like these make a mockery of the archeological profession." He further stated that the show's producers have "no credibility whatsoever."

What's in a Name?

Of the ten ossuaries found in the tomb, six of them had inscriptions. Although in some cases, the "inscriptions" appear to be little more than crudely scratched names. The names archeologists found carved on ossuaries in the Talpiot tomb were: Jesus son of Joseph, Maria, Mariamene, Matthew, Judas son of Jesus, and Jose (a diminutive of Joseph). Producers of the documentary believe that Mariamene (or Mary) is in fact Mary Magdalene. However there is no evidence directly connecting Mary Magdalene to the Mary in the tomb. Furthermore, scholars are quick to point out that these were all very common names. The name Mary is one of the most common of all ancient Jewish female names. In fact, during the first century, nearly 25 percent of women in Jerusalem, for example, were called Miriam or some derivative of that name. Even the name "Jesus" was a popular name in the first century; it has been discovered in at least 98 other tombs and on 21 other ossuaries.

The Gnostic Gospels

Much like DaVinci Code author Dan Brown, the documentary's producers relied heavily upon the so-called "Gnostic gospels" to support their conjectures concerning Jesus and Mary Magdalene (in particular the Gospel of Phillip). Scholars widely agree that none of the Gnostic gospels contain historically reliable information about the life of Jesus and that all were likely written in the second century or later - in contrast to the contemporaneous eyewitness accounts in the New Testament. The Gnostic gospels are not really "gospels" at all, but rather they are filled with unverifiable claims and were written under false pseudonyms in an attempt to gain legitimacy (i.e. the "Gospel of Philip" was not written by Philip, nor was it even written during his lifetime). These documents emerged during the centuries following the ministries of the Apostles and were universally rejected by the early church. The Gnostic gospels include The Gospel of Judas, The Gospel of Thomas, The Gospel of Philip, The Gospel of Mary, The Gospel of Truth, and about four dozen others.

The Ossuary of James

In addition to his other claims, Jacobovici believes that the now-infamous ossuary of James is authentic and that it may have come from the Talpiot tomb. (In 2003, the Israeli Antiquities Authority declared that the inscriptions on the James ossuary were modern forgeries. To this day, the ossuary's province of origin remains unknown. The collector who owned the ossuary has since been convicted of forging various other ancient artifacts.) According to Newsweek, the technique Jacobovici uses to "prove" the match between the James ossuary and the Talpiot tomb is a technology he calls "patina fingerprinting," which was essentially invented for the purposes of the film.

The Truth of the Matter

Amos Kloner is the archaeologist who oversaw the work at the tomb in 1980 and who authored the official report on the dig. He says the burial cave is not extraordinary. "It's a typical Jewish burial cave of a large size. The names on the ossuaries are very common names or derivatives of names. There is no likelihood that Jesus and his relatives had a family tomb. They were a Galilee family with no ties in Jerusalem. The Talpiot tomb belonged to a middle-class family from the first century CE." Recently he told The Jerusalem Post that, "It makes a great story for a TV film. But it's impossible. It's nonsense."

The conjectures presented in "The Lost Tomb of Jesus" are filled with holes. According Amos Kloner's report the tomb was disturbed in ancient times, and vandalized. Some of the biggest questions that remain unanswered relate to this early break-in: who vandalized the cave, when, what did they do there and why? Also, it is highly unlikely that Joseph, who died in Galilee, was buried in Jerusalem (he would have most likely been buried in Nazareth or Bethlehem). The Talipot tomb and ossuaries also clearly belonged to a rich family. Why would Jesus' family have a tomb outside of Jerusalem if they were from Nazareth? Why would they have a tomb if they were poor? More importantly, there is no DNA evidence to suggest that the remains in the Talipot tomb are that of the historical Jesus of Nazareth. There is also no historical evidence that Jesus was ever married or had a child. Nor can the filmmakers refute historical evidence of Jesus' resurrection. Even the Roman centurions who were given the task of guarding the Jesus' tomb acknowledged that it was empty. After which, Jesus appeared in the flesh before hundreds of witnesses.

Ben Witherington, a professor at Asbury Theological Seminary, commented on the documentary saying, "Unfortunately, this is a story full of holes, conjectures and problems. It will make good TV and involves a bad critical reading of history. Basically, this is old news with a new interpretation. We have known about this tomb since it was discovered in 1980. There are all sorts of reasons to see this as much ado about nothing."

While the Discovery Channel documentary may not be true, it does indeed make for good television. Even more unfortunate, it makes for convincing television. No doubt many who see it will be deceived. In times like these, when we find ourselves amidst an ever-increasing barrage of conflicting information, it is important to rely on God's Word for guidance and to remember that grace and truth come by Jesus Christ.



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/7/2007 11:43 PM
 
Amazing, isn't it ?  that a few days ago I felt led to start a thread about that one-eyed MONSTER in people's homes.
 
Yep, here is more evidence that this MONSTER is God's enemy.  Of course some of us, who are 'old' in faith, will not listen to such tommy-rot foolishness,  but what about younger children and people who are not established in faith?  Sure, when they hear this stuff, it will set up in their minds and they will believe it,  BECAUSE THEY SAW IT ON THEIR MONSTER.
 
See, what I told you,  this MONSTER is going about beguiling a whole generation of children, who will mature, not knowing one single thing about God or eternal life.
 
Who Cares?
 
Does anyone care?  Does anyone care enough to fight against this evil one-man army of Satan? He needs no other.  That MONSTER in every home, and almost every room or those homes, will do the entire job for him.
 
Tell people to set them out in their yard and burn them for a witness for Jesus?  Will they obey?  why you know they would not do this for anything in this world or eternity.
 
Yet God told me years ago to tell people to do just this very thing.  Will any obey?  Of course not.
 
Will the very people who will fight this documentary get rid of the means of carrying this hideous lie to innocent young souls?  Not for anything in this world.
 
Does such a world deserve eternal life?  will they obtain eternal life?
 
What do you all think?
 
btw.  Thank you, Tweety, for posting this for us.   I really think I will copy it and place it under my thread about this MONSTER which carries this evil to the world.

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From: IsaiahSent: 3/8/2007 4:30 AM
Clouds Creek Baptist Church, off Highway 22, will be showing the movie "FACING THE GIANTS"on Sunday, March 11, at 6 p.m. You and your family are invited to attend...

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/9/2007 1:15 AM
Isaiah, are you going to go see it?

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/10/2007 1:12 AM
 
This is a link to an article Dr. Mercola sent out.  It is about how TV watching adversely affects children, physically and emotionally.
 
He does not get into any spiritual death of course.  So just imagine, with all this evidence as to the harmful effects to the body,  what it will do to the soul!
 
How long?  How long will a nation linger in front of an all-out enemy of the soul?

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From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381Sent: 3/10/2007 10:12 AM
Sorry, Freeborn, I will not get to go, but thought you would like to go. lol 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/10/2007 2:28 PM
Well, perhaps one of us needs to go and face the giants.  lol again.

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From: MSN Nicknamerollingstone444Sent: 3/12/2007 10:28 PM
I think you do well to warn people against this evil of television.  when I see some of the filth which comes on on some of the shows which are fixed for family viewing, it is truly sickening.  can't people realize that this is actually teaching your children how to do evil and filth?  when little girls watch so much seductive actions from growups, and they see their parents enjoying this,  it sends them the message that this is the good way to act.
I think God will not deal lightly with peole who lead their children astray like this.

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From: MSN Nicknamelovejoy742Sent: 3/22/2007 3:37 AM
I agree...this monster, tv,  has no place in any Christians home.  children should not be raised up in front of this evil,seducing, crime-teaching monster.  good teaching.

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From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381Sent: 3/22/2007 7:02 AM
Thank you very much, lovejoy, for joining in with us against this evil monster.  

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