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Revelation : The Jews brought back in
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 3/31/2007 10:15 PM
 The Jews, brought back in.

The prophecies concerning bringing back in the natural Isralites, was fulfilled at Pentecost. Now, I know this is also another place where the 'already laid out pattern for interpretating' , is misleading people and keeping them from understanding what is so plainly taught in the Word.

When one reads the word, what they have already had taught to them is there; (it happens to all of us)-- Until God speaks to our understanding, we will see the Word in the mold 'they' already told us it fits.

But, it does not fit. Just answer to yourself these questions:

1. Who was in that upper room when the Holy Ghost first came? To whom was it given? Only to Isralites.

2. Who was saved in that first 3,000 who were added to the true chruch? Nothing but Isralites.

3.. Who was saved in the next 5,000? Nothing but Isralites.

Get the pitcure? God brought THEM into the church before anyone else. They were never put out. That is when He brought that remnant in!!! We are the saved remnant of Israel. We are Israel. There is no division anymore. Paul said all Israel shall be saved. But, he said the natural seed is not counted for the children of God. So, then all saved people are the true Israel; and there will be no other.

God's chosen people, his elect, is the ones who come in by faith in Jesus. That is what He elected; that those who believe (come in by faith) would be His people, His Israel. There was Israel in Heaven, before there was Israel on earth; it is a Heavenly name; not an earthly name. Those earthly Jews came from JACOB ; not Israel. Jacob was only allowed to go Israel's name.

To try to divide them is to destroy the work of Jesus: he took of the twain (the Jews and the Gentiles) and made ONE NEW MAN. Now, who or what is this NEW MAN? It is the Church of the Living God. There will never be another.

God will never pick back up the discarded, rejected law group of the natural people.

Never!!!

That is sound doctrine.

Remember, that Paul and Peter both said that the gospel HAD to brought to the Jews first. Why was this? Because, this was the fulfillment of God's promise to BRING THEM BACK IN. They were the FIRST ONES INTO THE N.T. Church. Also, if we are ONE and there will never be another separation of the TWO, then, they have to had been in the church ALL THE TIME. If God goes BACK to the nation of Israel, then he would have to put the church aside. They are NOT divided; they will never be divided. Therefore, God had to have brought them back in, as part of the church.

Romans 2;28-29---For he is NOT a JEW which is one OUTWARDLY; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the FLESH:

But he IS a JEW, which is one INWARDLY; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Read chapter 3-- it tells how we are not justified by the law (O.T.) but by grace through Jesus. So to ever go back to the O.T. at any point would be to go back to the law, away from grace. The ‘nation�?of Israel is strictly O.T. and God will never go back to it.

Lam.5:tells about the putting away of the nation of Israel. At the end, v20-22--we see them asking him to take them back again; but look what is the answer: Wherefore dost thou forget us FOR EVER, and forsake us so long time?

21---Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

v22---BUT thou hast UTTERLY rejected us; thou are very wroth against us.

Lam. 1:8--Jerusalem hath grievously sinned; therefore she is removed: all that honoured her despise her, because they have seen her nakedness: yea, she sigheth and turneth backward.

The whole book of Lamentations is about the doing away with of the O.T. and all that pertains to it. God said I will do a new thing. He NEVER goes back to an old thing he despised and did away with.

Her enemies it is talking about are the N.T. Church.

cp 2:5,6---The Lord was as an enemy: he hath swallowed up Israel, he hath swallowed up all her palaces: he hath destroyed his strong holds, and hath increased in the daughter of Judah mourning and lamentation.

v6--And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest. Here is the cutting off of their king and their priest. This is for ever.

V9---....The law is no more; her prophets also find no vision from the LORD. Here the law and the prophets are cut off; forever.

This whole book is about this; but don’t have space to put it all.

v17--He set up the horn of thine adversaries.

cp.4:16---The anger of the LORD hath divided them; he will NO MORE regard them: they respected not the persons of the priests.

Romans 9:6-8---Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect, For they ARE NOT all Israel, which are of Israel:

v7--Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

v8---That is, They which are the CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, these are NOT the children of God: But the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

v24--Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Osee, I will call them MY PEOPLE which were NOT my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.

v26---And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

Rom.10: 12---For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

cp11: 1--Hath God cast away his people? God forbid, For I also am an Israelite.

God hath NOT CAST AWAY his people which he foreknew.

v5---Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace

v10--Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back ALWAYS.

v26--And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written. There shall come out of Zion the deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

v32--For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Here we see that God says all Israel shall be saved: this surely does not mean all (natural) Jews will be saved; it is saying all saved people are God’s Israel; the inward Jew who is the true Jew.

When he concluded us all in unbelief, he put us all into the same category.

Gal.2:8--For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles. So, God was working here with both peoples. He had not cast away the Jews.

v16--...for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Gal 3:9--So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

v22--But the scripture hath concluded ALL under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

v26---For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

v27--For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

v28---There is neither JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are ALL ONE in Christ Jesus.

v29----And IF YE BE CHRIST’S THEN ARE YE ABRAHAM’S SEED, and heirs according to the promise. Now, don’t you see that he is saying all Christians are Israelites? ? Abraham’s Seed???

Gal. 4: 22-31---Here Paul shows the two sons of Abraham represent the two covenants: The law and grace; the N.T. and the O.T. To save space you read this.

v25--This Agar is mount Sinai (the Law) which gendereth to bondage and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. In other words, the Jerusalem over in the East, now is the bond child.

v26---But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. (the church) So, to dote on the natural Jerusalem is to put that bond child (law) above the free (the new Jerusalem).

v28---Now we, brethren, (church ) as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

So he said the church is the free, children of promise.

v30--What saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman , but of the free. He is speaking to his brethren the church; not the natural Israelites.

Gal.5:2--Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

v4--Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Eph. 2:12-22---But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

For he is our peace, who hath made BOTH ONE, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself OF TWAIN ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;

And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

v18---For through him WE BOTH have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

v19--Now therefore YE ARE NO MORE STRANGERS AND FOREIGNERS, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the HOUSEHOLD OF GOD;

v20---And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

In whom ALL the building fitly framed TOGETHER groweth unto AN HOLY TEMPLE IN THE Lord;

WHOM YE ALSO ARE BUILDED together FOR AN HABITATION OF GOD THROUGH THE SPIRIT.

This proves that both the Jews and the Gentiles became one new man = the church. See the above: that new man is the Holy Temple, the habitation of God. On the day of Pentecost, at the birth of the Church, the first ones in were all Jews. The next 3000 were all Jews. The next 5000 were all Jews. See.

God did not cut them off. That is the fulfilled promise to regather them. He closed off the O.T. But, them he grafted them back into the good Olive Tree, which is Jesus. He is the root of that tree. Then he brought in the first Gentiles with Cornelius’s household and grafted them into the good Olive Tree; thus making them both one.

People, they will forever be one. God will never go back and separate them again. Why would he??? That would be to do away with the finished work of Jesus, to make us both one, thus making peace.

Read in Hebrews. It is too much to put on this message. Maybe I will do more on this later. But ,we are told that all the O.T. things: law, priesthood, prophets, sabbaths, everything to do with it, was only types and shadows of the good heavenly things to come, meaning the Church.

So, why would he go back to the types and shadows when he has the thing he wanted all the time, the Mount Zion, the true Church of God, blood bought, blood washed, Holy Ghost filled Church???? I tell you , it is just not true.

God always does a NEW thing. He never said he would go back and do an old thing. God is not like that. He was finished with the nation of Israel forever. Why put them aside, bring in a Church, then put the Church aside, and go back to the nation of Israel??? No!!! God will never do that thing. We are all together, a Holy Temple of God.

The Christians are the Zion God loved more than all the dwellings of Jacob. The Church. The Holy Jerusalem. He will not go back to the bond child. Put your love and loyalty to the true people of God, the Christians.

God cleansed them by the blood of Jesus. There is no other way. they have to come in through Jesus just as we do. They will never get in any other way. There is no other way. They must come in and be part of the Church if they want to get to God. The Word is very clear on this.

11Cor.3: tells us that the O.T. brought in by Moses was death. v11---For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

He is speaking of doing away with the O.T., forever.

Heb. if full of this. In cp.7&8--he tells that the old priesthood and the old laws were all changed; to bring in the heavenly and better covenant.

To go back to the Nation of Israel would be to leave all this and go back to the done away with Levitical priesthood, the law, everything, and thus totally void the work of Jesus. I would like to take in all of Heb. on this, but that would make the message too long.

God bless you all that read this. May it bless you and show you this great truth: WE ARE THE ISRAEL OF GOD!!!!

 



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/31/2007 10:16 PM
 
The foolish concept (of the whore church) is that God set aside the Jews and picked up the Gentiles and will someday take the Gentiles off this earth to heaven, bring a tribulation upon the Jews and then some kind of way pick them back up again as a nation, thus voiding the work of Jesus.
 
I tell you, this is one of the biggest deceptions of all times.  If people will take the time to study Foxes Book of Martyrs or some other good account of all that horror which started with the stoneing of Stephen, and continues right down to our present day, they will see the working of that evil anti-christ church which ruled the world for more than a thousand years in such horrors and evil tortures of Christians as is un-imaginable.
 
People take the time to study this out.  Get out of that horrible darkness that whore has brought you all into.
 
Have a good day.  and please study this great message.
 
JO

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 3/31/2007 10:16 PM
From: joie Sent: 7/9/2003 7:24 PM
Rev. 20: 2--and he laid hold on the DRAGON, that old  SERPENT, which is the  DEVIL, and  SATAN, and bound HIM (SINGULAR).. a thousand years,
v3-- And cast HIM (singular).. into the bottomless pit.....
 
Now this is showing that all of these ---- DRAGON, serpent, DEVIL, SATAN  are all one and the same being.
 
So, who is teaching falsehood?
 
It is very obvious.