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Salvation : By One MAN
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 10/9/2007 10:08 PM

~~ By One Man ~~

1co 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 1co 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

1co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 1co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

The Above Scripture shows us that death came by some MAN. So it was a MAN, not some angel or woman, who brought death into this world. It plainly tells us that this MAN was Adam. Then it tells us that the resurrection of the dead also came by a MAN. It tells us that this MAN was Christ.

Yet almost everyone holds to a lie that sin and death came either by Eve or some angel, whom they errantly believe is Satan. Scripture says in more than one place that the one who brought sin and death into the world was Adam, whom this calls a MAN.

We also have an error being taught by many, that Jesus had to be God in order to be able to atone for our sins and bring redemption. But see that the above Scripture says that the resurrection of the dead came by a MAN. So again, false doctrine takes place over truth which is taught in Scripture. Not one single Scripture tells us that Jesus was God, before he ascended on high. Not one single Scripture tells us that Mary gave birth to a god, or a man who was both or fully man and God. No Scripture shows us that God can or ever did die. Yet the entire church world teaches this lie.

I ask, why are they ignoring the above clear Scripture? I say it is because their mama, the harlot church, means more to them that the Word of God. I say she has blinded their eyes and closed their ears. I say this they willingly are ignorant of, for they love darkness rather than light.

1co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

1co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

In the above Scripture it is plainly stated again, that both Adams were MEN. Look at verse 47. The Second MAN is the Lord from heaven. So this Lord, (with a small ord, is a MAN). This they willingly are ignorant of.

I have taught these Scriptures in so many messages, yet people still will not see or accept their simply TRUTH. So, here goes again:

Ro 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. [Now this says that Christ died for us. So then, we must prove whether Christ was a MAN, or a God.]

Ro 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Ro 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. [This plainly tells us that we are now justified by his blood and are saved from wrath through him. Did God have blood? Many are teaching this error. It said we are reconciled to God by the death of his Son, not himself.]

1co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

1co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

[Now read that. Most people also errantly believe that we are now in the image of God. But see that this could not be true. We are now in the image of the earthly. So was Jesus. He was a flesh and blood MAN. He told us that a spirit has not flesh and bones. So his flesh and bones proves he was not a Spirit. God is a Spirit.

How can so many still be deceived about this matter? It is only because they listen to the lies of man and do not study the Scriptures to find truth. This says that flesh and BLOOD cannot inherit the kingdom of God. So if this be true, blood cannot inherit, or be in the kingdom of God, how then was God of blood? How did God have blood, if this is not permitted in his kingdom? If some of you can explain this to me, please do so. The flesh with the blood is different from the flesh and bone. Flesh and bone is the glorified flesh.

I know that they rest this assumption upon this verse: Ac 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

But they are overlooking the fact that after Jesus ascended to heaven, God made him to be our God. (The Church belongs to Jesus. He purchased it. ) Paul is expressing his acceptance of this fact that Jesus is our God here. He is not saying that God died and shed blood, which God did not have.

All Scripture must agree with all other Scripture. So this proves that Paul was doing as Thomas, and calling Jesus our God here. He is not saying that God died on the cross. He is saying that the man who shed his blood and died for us, is now our God. If the above Scripture says that blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, then it is crystal clear that the glorified man, Jesus Christ, and God, neither have blood.

The life of the natural, earthly body is dependant upon blood. But death is in that blood. This is not true of God or a glorified body, which is in the image of God. Jesus said, after his resurrection, that a Spirit hath NOT flesh and bone, as ye see me have. So he made it clear here that a glorified body still has flesh and bone, but no blood, since blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Since he shows that God, which is a Spirit, has not flesh and bone, and it is clear that God could not have had blood, then God is not a man in any kind of way.

Man is not God in any kind of way. Jesus, the glorified MAN, has both flesh and bone, so he is not God, for a Spirit has no flesh and bone. If blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, then God had no blood. Before his glorification, Jesus had all three, flesh, bone and blood. He was fully a human being. This is just too clearly laid out in the Word, for you all to keep missing this simple TRUTH.]

Now, back to our study in Romans 5: Ro 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. [Now this verse plainly tells us that we received the ATONEMENT through our Lord Jesus Christ. How say ye then that only God could have brought us the atonement? According to Leviticus 25, and Ruth 4, only a near kinsman may have the power to redeem. How then was Jesus God and a near kinsman too? See, he had to be MAN, in order to be a near kinsman. God had told Moses, I will raise them up a PROPHET, from among their BRETHREN, LIKE UNTO YOU. So this proves that Jesus was exactly like those people. God said he will be a PROPHET, not a God.]

Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Ro 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Ro 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

Ro 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

[Now these verses clearly say that sin and death entered this world by one MAN, which was Adam. It also clearly says that the gift by grace came by one MAN, Jesus Christ. So it is showing that BOTH Adam and Jesus were MEN. They were not angels or God. They were men.]

Ro 5:16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. Ro 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.

Ro 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Ro 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Now that is just too much Scripture clearly identifying Adam as the ONE MAN through whom sin, death, and condemnation came upon all men. It makes it clear that Adam was a man, and not an angel. It makes it clear that sin entered by this one MAN, and not by one woman, Eve.

It also makes it very clear that righteousness came upon many through the righteousness of one MAN, JESUS CHRIST. It does not call this one man a god. So I say everyone needs to study this and stop telling your lies against God’s word.

By: Jo Smith ~~~October 9, 2007



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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 10/10/2007 11:33 PM
Freeborn,
I read this. And would like to add something. Death did come into this world BY ONE MAN ADAM (That is true). But that one scripture would mean that SIN was in another world before Adam sinned. See what I am trying to say?  Tweety
 
It is a very good message!

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From: joie2Sent: 10/10/2007 11:46 PM
Thank you, Tweety.
Now I do not see what you are saying, at least I do not see why you would think that.
 
What Scripture are you basing this on?  If sin entered by Adam, then sin did not exist before Adam sinned.  There was no one else who sinned.
 
Show me what Scripture you are using for this.
 
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 10/11/2007 12:56 AM
Satan was the first thing that ever sinned. You say that Adam is Satan. But I can say that Adam had the spriit of Satan. Can we agree on that?
So the scripture that I am basing what I said on would be Isa. 14:12-14.
 
I know that you will disgaree with me. But in that verse-you plainly see that Lucifer fell from heaven. The Spiritual heaven. Adam could be the second Satan if you wish to call him that, but Lucifer was the first one. Tweety

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From: joie2Sent: 10/11/2007 2:25 PM
Tweety, you cannot just make up stuff to fit what you 'think' it should be.  That is exactly what caused all the false doctrine.  Men told lies, then others believed their lies, and when they read things which showed it was lies, they made up more stuff to cover up the 'discrepency'.
 
There are no two satans in Scripture.  Of course satan is a whole kingdom, just as humans are, and God is.
 
False prophet is a whole kingdom.  None of these things are just 1 being, as men so foolishly believe.
 
Now I had Isa 14 in the above message, proving that God also called this one a MAN.
 
You just do not realize that Lucifer was Adam.  Just as Jesus was called many different names in Scripture.  He is called David, Zeruabble, Joshua, and many others.
 
The spiritual heaven was that Garden of Eden.  It is a state of being, not a location.  He was glorified.  This you realize.  So this was that anointed cherub.  It was Lucifer, or the state of Adam before he fell.
 
Now when you take Scripture and prove to me that there is a Satan apart from fallen man, I will believe it too.  When you show me someone sinning before that in Eze. 28, which I clearly proved in the above message, was Adam, then I will agree.
 
Isa 14 is speaking about the very same issue as in Eze. 28.  It is not two separate events or people.   Why can you not see that in both Scriptures God called him a MAN?
God did not say sin entered the world through some angel, called Satan.

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