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Special Verses : "If I tell you...you will not believe"
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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 9/8/2003 3:15 AM

 Luke 22: 63.  And the men that held Jesus mocked him, and smote him.
 64.  And when they had blindfolded him, they struck him on the face, and asked him, saying, Prophesy, who is it that smote thee?

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 65.  And many other things blasphemously spake they against him.
 66.  And as soon as it was day, the elders of the people and the chief priests and the scribes came together, and led him into their council, saying,

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 67.  Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe:
 68.  And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go.
 69.  Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

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 70.  Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.
 71.  And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth.

 
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From: joieSent: 9/8/2003 3:18 AM

Luke 22: 52.  Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?

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 53.  When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness. 

 

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From: joieSent: 9/8/2003 3:23 AM
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 Luke 23: 34.  Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

 
 

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From: joieSent: 9/8/2003 3:26 AM

Luke 23:  28.  But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.

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 29.  For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

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 30.  Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

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 31.  For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry? 

 
   

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From: joieSent: 9/8/2003 3:30 AM
Luke 23: 43.  And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise..  
   

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From: joieSent: 9/8/2003 3:32 AM

Luke 23: 46.  And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. 

 
   

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From: joieSent: 9/8/2003 3:34 AM

Luke 24: 25.  Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

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 26.  Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? 

 
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From: joieSent: 9/8/2003 3:36 AM

Luke 24: 6.  And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

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 37.  But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

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 38.  And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

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 39.  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

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 40.  And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. 

 
   

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From: MSN NicknameIsaiah·Sent: 9/8/2003 3:57 AM
Mt 21:32
For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.  

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From: MSN NicknameIsaiah·Sent: 9/8/2003 4:03 AM
Mr 5:36 - As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe.
 
Lu 8:50 - But when Jesus heard it, he answered him, saying, Fear not: believe only, and she shall be made whole.

 

 

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From: MSN NicknameIsaiah·Sent: 9/8/2003 4:14 AM
 
Lu 22:67 - Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe:

Joh 3:12 - If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

 

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From: joieSent: 9/8/2003 4:22 AM
70.  Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.
 71.  And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth.
 
 

 

They asked Jesus,  Are you the Son of God?  He said,  Ye say that I am.

What did this do to them?  Read their answer ~  What need we of any further witness?  for We ourselves have heard of HIS  OWN  MOUTH.

See?  They had heard the mouth of Jesus himself confess that they say he was the Son of God.  This is profound........ they heard the mouth of Jesus and said we need no further witness against him.... he has witnessed against himself by claiming to be the Son of God........

Can any of you see this? He had just told them "If I tell you,  YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE". 

Then he TELLS them what they wanted to hear;;;;;;;;;; and they proved him to be true,,,,,,,,, they did not and could not believe him.  They said let's crucify this man for we do not believe his mouth saying he is the Son of God.

We know better than that.  The truth has the same effect on people today........ we have heard his own mouth = the Written Word........ but we do not believe that.  Let's all run away from this placellllllllll for they teach truth........it is not what the Pharisees say.  It is not what the Saducees say...... It is not what the Baptist say..... it is not what the Catholics and the Adventist say...... it is not what the Pentecostals say....... who can believe them....... it is not what our churches say..... so crucify him again.

 

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From: MSN NicknameIsaiah·Sent: 9/8/2003 4:39 AM
John 5    
5:45
Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
5:46
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
5:47
But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
 

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