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Special Verses : Destruction of Babylon
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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 9/22/2003 1:04 AM
Rev. 18: 14.  And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
 15.  The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

 16.  And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
 17.  For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

 18.  And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
 19.  And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

 20.  Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
 21.  And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

QUESTION: >>>>>>>>

WHO IS SHE?



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From: joieSent: 9/22/2003 1:07 AM

Rev. 18: 22.  And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
 23.  And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
 24.  And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

 

 
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From: joieSent: 9/22/2003 1:10 AM

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 Revelation 18

 1.  And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
 2.  And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

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 3.  For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

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 4.  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

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 5.  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
 6.  Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

 
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From: joieSent: 9/22/2003 1:17 AM

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Rev. 18: 7.  How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

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 8.  Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
 9.  And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

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 10.  Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
 11.  And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: 

 
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From: joieSent: 11/26/2003 3:43 AM

 Matt. 23: 29.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,


 30.  And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
 31.  Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.


 32.  Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
 33.  Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?


 34.  Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:


 35.  That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.


 36.  Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.


 37.  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!


 38.  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

 

 

Now there is the identification of who Babylon really is = Old Jerusalem.  The religious hypocrites.  The law kepers who live in  deception.

Behold your house is left unto you  DESOLATE.

Now consider these words of Jesus.  Is he sugar coating these people?  Is he soft-spoken?  Is he afraid to tell it like it is? 

Why is he speaking so harshly to these religious hypocrites here?

THINK!

 

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From: IsaiahSent: 11/26/2003 4:02 AM

QUESTION: >>>>>>>>

WHO IS SHE?

None other than Mystery Bablon the church of today.

The WHORE


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 Message 7 of 10 in Discussion 
From: joieSent: 11/26/2003 4:56 AM

That is so very true.  Old Jerusalem, that OT Israel, mankind from Adam to Jesus, was that old Babylon.  They were made up of seven heads.  Dan. 7.

Those heads started with Adam and ended with Moses = law.

Law was that fourth kingdom which ruled the whole world.  It was that seventh head.

Now Old Jerusalem, false religion, went over into the 'church' after God brought up His Church.  Then old Jerusalem became false religion again = false church.  copycat.

Now they brought up seven heads again.  seven churches.  That is why they revived that old law head which Jesus had destroyed and nailed to the cross.

Yes, they had to have that law, for it was their ruling power.

No Grace, No equality; no oneness; no, no, no.  they had to rule with force and curality = LAW.

LAW IS THAT HEALED OLD SEVENTH HEAD.

WOW, SEE THAT?  I JUST SAW IT ------ SEVENTH DAY = SEVENTH HEAD.

JO.  NOW HOW IS THAT FOR REVELATION?  GIVEN TO ME ON THE SPOT. 

 
   

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From: MSN NicknameSearERICSent: 11/30/2003 5:02 PM
The reason that Yahweh [ Yahshua ] spoke so harshly to them, is because He was at the end of His Ministry [ life ].
He was Identifying them, by bringing their ancestry [ secrets ] out for everyone to see. He was letting them know that He knew what they had planned for Him, for they did it to everyone He sent them, to help them avoid eternal damnation. But they rejected all He sent, naturally they were going to reject Him too.
Crucify Him for telling the truth. 
 
What truth did He reveal?  That He was Yahweh Himself in a body.  He never said God or Jesus, He said Yahweh!  Had He use any other name He would not have been Crucified, Yahweh is the one true Name until this day that we are Crucified for saying. Yahweh is the only Name until this day that man will not accept, regardless of his religion, that is why you will not find any Jews or Gentiles in the Kingdom, the Kingdom is made up of SPIRIT, there is only one SPIRIT, that is the SPIRIT OF YAHWEH!  You won't be able to say you didn't know, for we live in Grace, all things concerning Yahweh are for us to know, if we have FAITH [ BELIEVE ] that He is you and you are Him!
That is the Glory of Yahweh [ knowing Him ], it is Yahweh that is rejected by the powers of religion and governments of this planet.
No other so-called deity is rejected on this planet. Anyone can come in his own [ made up name ] and find a audience, but not Yahweh, OUR TRUE CREATOR OF ALL SEEN AND UNSEEN!
 
Time is short, we are in our last days, time to get real with ourselves. If we really Love our Creator, why wouldn't we want to call on Him, to take us out of our ignorance and arrogance.
You are going to bow for sure, it is up to you when.
 
Peace!


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From: IsaiahSent: 11/30/2003 9:35 PM
What truth did He reveal?  That He was Yahweh Himself in a body.  He never said God or Jesus, He said Yahweh!  Had He use any other name He would not have been Crucified, ( Eric)
Where is this spoken? Where did this come from? Where is it said God put himself in a body?  Show me where this came from Eric. This is not true. Show me where God was crucified.

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From: joieSent: 12/1/2003 3:31 AM
Eric, you would do well for your soul to put your trust in the KJV and turn to Jesus Christ and receive NT salvation according to the Apostles' teaching.  You have no assurance that the information you have been given from some source other than the KJV Scritpures is any truth to it.
 
 
It is NOT WRITTEN IN THE WORD.   Why would you trust your eternal destination to some hair-brained notion that the "J" did not exist then or that it matters.
 
By the way, what did they call  JOEL?
 Joseph?
Joshaua?
Jeremiah?
John?      etc.  See what I mean?  Was Jeremiah called   Heremiah?  was Joel called Hoel?  How foolish!
 
Take it to all other words starting with "Js"  and see if they are also changed or elimanated?
 
You are taking a dangerous chance with eternal salvation by not studying the truth of God's Written Word.
 
JO

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