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The Beginning : As gods or as fools?
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 4/9/2007 12:24 AM

~~ As gods or as fools? ~ ~ By: Jo Smith *** April 8, 2007

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

It looks to the casual reader as if all of these things happened in just a short space of time. It appears that the man sinned, and then immediately, God drove him out of the Garden, so he could not take of the tree of life and live forever. But this is not the case. How do I know? Because of seeing the rest of Scripture, how God always works.

What is that? God always gives people a TIME to repent in. He always gives them warning and then plenty of time to accept his words and obey. He said in Revelation, I gave HER (Babylon) space, or time, to repent in. She failed to use this time for repentance, and continued on in her rebellion and sins. God told Cain, if ye do well you will be accepted. Cain refused. He was rebellious as was his Daddy, Adam.

Therefore, God gave her up. God gave them up.

God gave Adam plenty of time to repent in. But Adam refused to repent. He willfully chose to continue on in his rebellion against God. We are not told that God drove the woman out of the garden, only the man.

Babylon is the very same thing as the law, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Babylon and old Jerusalem are the very same. Adam, or Satan, is the king over this evil city, or kingdom, or tree.

God speaks of nations or kingdoms as trees. The Assyrian was a Cedar tree in Eden. Jesus said I am the vine, or tree. You are the branches. Now there were two different trees in Eden. One tree was life. The other tree was death. There were two different kingdoms there. That kingdom is a tree. This tree had to have roots. Those roots were the origin of the tree or kingdom. Those roots were Adam and Eve. They were the very first members of these kingdoms.

Jesus clearly identified Babylon as Jerusalem. He clearly took her roots back to Eden. Where? Mt 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Mt 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: Mt 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Mt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

Mt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Mt 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Now this clearly identifies old Jerusalem as the city which killed all the righteous people from ABEL on down to the end of the world. So this clearly reveals this city to be Babylon, who has this same judgment pronounced against her. So this Babylon, rebellious City is the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil. Her king is Satan, or Adam. It is synonymous with the law covenant. All of this was contrary to God’s way of life on earth. This is why Jesus said to Jerusalem, You HOUSE or kingdom, is left unto you DESOLATE. This is that abomination of desolations. See this city has been desolate since Adam partook of this tree. He has sat there in the temple of God all these years showing himself to be God. He said, I am God. I sit in the SEAT, of place of rulership, or authority, of God. So this is that abomination of desolations.

That tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a kingdom. It is law. It is old Jerusalem. It is Adam. It is man. It is rebellion against God. It is death. It is sin. It is the carnal mind. All of these things combine to be Babylon. This is a desolate house or sinful kingdom. When this house again sits in the temple of God, or Church, and declares that law is of God, sin is of God, Adam is God, etc. then know that this abomination is risen up again as the head over God’s people. This was prominent at the time of the crucifixion of Jesus. It was this very power, or head of man, or law, which killed Jesus. They said, we have a LAW, and by our LAW, He ought to die. That was the Adam, the Abomination of desolations sitting in the temple of God, showing himself to be God. It was those rulers at Jerusalem. They were the serpents of old. They were the seed of Abraham, which was of the family of SETH, not Cain. So these serpents descended from Seth, from Adam.

They were the Pharisees, the hypocrite religious leaders, the Priests, and all those of that day. These were the serpents and scorpions which murdered Jesus. They were that abomination of desolations, anti-Christ, sitting in the temple of God, showing themselves to be God, by condemning and murdering Jesus. They JUDGED him as worthy to die. They condemned the Son of God. They tried to destroy the Tree of Life. The present day serpents and scorpions try to tell us that none of these things have happened yet. They are Satan’s disciples, trying to cover up his evil, in murdering the Son of God. They try to take your mind down here to our day, and away from that awful day when Jesus was murdered by JERUSALEM. Abel was murdered by JERUSALEM. So Adam was the roots of Jerusalem, old Jerusalem, that is. He set up this murdering kingdom, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He took them away from Grace into law. He deceived Eve into thinking this was the right way to serve God. Then after he led her to take of this, he blamed her and said that she gave it to him. He is a deceiver and a subtle serpent. He was that abomination of desolations then, sitting in the temple of God (his body) showing himself to be God and deceiving Eve. He so deceived Cain that Cain rose up and murdered his brother, BECAUSE Abel was RIGHTEOUS. That desolation set in right there. That kingdom is forever desolate. That tree is DEATH. All who ride on that horse are DEAD. The DEAD are there.

All of the Word of God is present tense back on the other side of the flood. It all happened there. It is all happening right now. When you try to interpret the Word of God as saying this happened there, and something else happens now, then you are going to miss the truth every time. Until you can take it all back to Genesis, with Adam and Eve, you will never understand the full truth. That Abomination of desolations happened in Eden. It continually happens. It is happening right now. But the main time was at Calvary, when they murdered the Son of God. Jesus put that old sinful kingdom of Adam down and raised up his righteous kingdom on the Day of Pentecost. He pronounced Jerusalem as desolate at the time of his death. But see that this sinful kingdom rose her ugly head up one more time. When you set man up and accept man’s words, you set that man back up as god. The WORD is God. So when you believe some man’s words instead of the Scriptures, then you are under this abominable head of Adam. This is why people so fervently take up for Adam and get angry and upset when they hear this truth, that Adam is Satan. Adam is the one who set up this evil, sinful kingdom. He is the one who claims to be God. I am God. But God told him you are just a MAN. He has people everywhere claiming that Satan was or is an angel, to keep his true identity hidden. The Word you listen to, and accept, is the one who is your God. So if you accept some man’s words above God’s Written Scripture, then that man is your god, for the Word is God. Satan always has some man up there, proclaiming some word other than God’s Holy Word. Sure, they claim it is God’s word, for it is their god’s word. They will pretend to give you Scripture, but when you check it out, it is not saying what Scripture really says. Every church in our land today is proclaiming false words as God’s Word. Their doctrine came from some man’s made up stuff. So that man or church is their god. But in the end, it is all Adam’s word. So Adam, man, is your god.

Now all of these false words are from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They will pronounce just enough of the true Word of God, to throw you off. But they will always give you false doctrine. It is that tree of death. When you accept these false words, you are eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Notice a wonderful thing about Romans one. It begins with the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God. It declares the truth, that only by this resurrection was Jesus the Begotten Son of God, by the spirit of holiness. Then this powerful chapter takes us back to the beginning in the Garden of Eden and shows us how sin entered this world, bringing with it DEATH.

Ro 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them. Ro 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Notice this takes us back to the beginning, at the creation. So you cannot deny that this is taking us back to Eden with Adam and Eve. They understood God’s eternal power and Godhead, so they are without excuse. The invisible things of God are clearly understood by the things that are made, or visible.

Ro 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Ro 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Now there is no doubt that this is speaking about Adam and Eve. They KNEW God. They understood his eternal power and Godhead. But they glorified him not as God but became vain in their imaginations. What was their imagination? Ye shall be as gods. We are God. I am god. (Eze. 28). Thus their foolish heart was darkened. They went from light to darkness or life to death. They became fools, believing they were wise. So instead of giving them wisdom, this tree gave them darkness and foolishness. What was their foolishness?

Ro 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Ro 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Ro 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Now, there is the full explanation of what Adam and Eve did wrong! They changed the glory of God into an image made like to corruptible man. They changed the truth into a lie. Satan is the father of lies. They did it. They changed the TRUTH into a lie. Satan is the father of lies.

They worshipped the creature more than God. The creature was man. Then they dropped down to worshipping other creatures. So God gave them up. This is when God drove them out of Eden. He gave them plenty of time to repent and turn back to the true God, but Adam refused. He set up a sinful kingdom, full of rebellion to God, with himself as the head over this kingdom. Satan is the king of Babylon. Lies or false doctrine is the foundation of this sinful kingdom, or tree. The branches on this tree bear corrupt fruit. It is death. Your church is a branch on this tree. Your holidays are corrupt fruit on this tree. The ten commandments, or law, is the strength of this polluted kingdom. Man is the god of this kingdom. All who are in this kingdom have some man they esteem and worship. If you accept their words, instead of revealed Scripture, then that man is your god. The WORD IS GOD.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Ro 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Ro 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Ro 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Ro 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

The members of this sinful kingdom, or the tree of knowledge of good and evil, did not like to retain God in their knowledge, so they received the knowledge of lies. Thus God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do all the sins listed next. This is the nature of those who are of this sinful tree, or kingdom. They knew the judgment of God. It was Adam. He knew. He passed his reprobate mind to all who join his kingdom by rebelling against the truth of God.

Jesus said, I am the vine, ye are the branches. He likens his kingdom to a tree. We are all members of this tree, or kingdom. We must bear fruit to stay in this tree. Every branch which does not bear fruit is cut off and burned. He shows two trees. A good tree bears good fruit and a corrupt tree bears corrupt fruit. Words or doctrine is the fruit. Now watch this:

Pr 22:14 The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.

This strange woman is the sinful kingdom, Babylon, or Jerusalem. It is a woman. God likens kingdoms and churches or nations to a woman. So this strange woman is the false church of Babylon. Her roots are in Eden. Adam is her king. Her words are a deep pit. False Doctrine or lies is her mouth. She is speaking Adam’s lies.

Pr 3:13 Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. Pr 3:14 For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold. Pr 3:15 She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her. Pr 3:16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour. Pr 3:17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.

Pr 3:18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her. Pr 3:19 The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens. Pr 3:20 By his knowledge the depths are broken up, and the clouds drop down the dew. Pr 3:21 My son, let not them depart from thine eyes: keep sound wisdom and discretion: Pr 3:22 So shall they be life unto thy soul, and grace to thy neck.

Here God is calling wisdom a woman. She is the tree of life. Her fruit is above all earthly riches. Notice, LENGTH of days, or eternal life, is in her right hand. Her paths are peace. This is the peace Jesus gives us. She is a tree of life to all who lay hold on her. So her words is this tree of life. It is TRUTH. It is the Tree of life or the Kingdom of Jesus Christ. Her roots are also in Eden. Eve was the first member of this kingdom. Eve repented in the allotted time and was given eternal life.

How do I know? She is called the Mother of all LIVING. She is the one whose seed crushed the head of the serpent. Her seed is the righteous people. How do I know? When she birthed Seth, she said God has give me another seed, in place of Abel, whom Cain slew. So the righteous Abel was HER seed. So the righteous people are HER seed. She is the tree of life. Eve means life giver, restorer to life, life. All the words connected to the meaning of Eve is LIFE. So she is totally connected with the Tree of Life, or the Kingdom of Christ. She spoke truth. She said God has give me another seed in place of Abel whom Cain slew, making mention that Cain had gone on in his evil ways and not repented.

It is very peculiar and evident that the very ones who mouth this evil false doctrine of Eve committing adultery and bearing Cain as a seed of some animal serpent, also quote and say that the promise to HER that HER seed would bruise the head of the serpent, acknowledge that this is prophecy about JESUS. Thus they contradict themselves by claiming on one hand that her seed is the wicked ones, then they say her seed was Jesus Christ.

Pr 15:2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness. Pr 15:3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. Pr 15:4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

The tongue of the wise uses knowledge rightly. The mouth of fools pours out foolishness. Remember Romans one? They professed themselves to be wise, but became fools? This was Adam, man. So their words are foolishness and death. Her words are life. Right words, or a wholesome tongue, is a tree of LIFE.

So now we have established that the Tree of Life was called a SHE, HER. So it is considered to be a FEMALE. For more proof: Re 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Here in the very last chapter of God’s Word, we find the tree of life, and it is a FEMALE. It is a female bearing children, or fruit. So if the last time we hear of the tree of life, and in the middle of the Book, Proverbs, this tree is referred to as a WOMAN, then it is certain that the Tree of Life in the Garden was also a female.

Now why is this? Most people say that Jesus is this tree of life. If this be true, how is it then called a female?

Ps 128:3 Thy wife shall be as a fruitful vine by the sides of thine house: thy children like olive plants round about thy table.

We are called the olive tree in Romans. We are called the children of Jesus in Isa. Eight. Jesus said I and the children whom God has given me. So Jesus is this mother, who bore children for God. So then, this places Jesus with being a WOMAN, or female.

Jesus is the WOMAN in travail in Rev. 12. Now I know this is disputed, but it is the pure revelation of God. The Kingdom of Jesus Christ is this female. His kingdom was FEMALE to God. All flesh is female to God. As I have taught before, The Spirit is the MALE, or life-giver. The flesh is the female or receiver of the life.

It is very important to learn this to understand spiritual revelation. Jesus is the head over this human kingdom. He is the HEAD over his kingdom of children of God. He never rebelled against this place as female to God. He never desired to be God or lifted himself up as God, as Adam did. Adam rebelled and tried to set himself up as God, or the life giver. He wanted to be worshipped. So he worshipped the creature, instead of the creator. This creature was himself. He tried to lift up a MALE kingdom over against God’s Kingdom of Spirit. This is fully manifested again at the Tower of Babel, as they said, Let us make US a NAME (signifies the power or authority) and a City (Kingdom) which shall reach unto Heaven. They were thus again trying to set themselves up as the power of God, or a male kingdom. See, they were glorifying themselves, not God. They did not want to make a NAME for God. This is also used to prove to us what Adam did.

Jesus never did this. So Jesus�?kingdom is this tree of life. But it is female. It is the one who bears children to God. As we yield our own lives completely to God and allow his Spirit to fill us and lead us, then we become a part of the tree of life, bearing a child of God to God. That child of God is our own lives, as a manchild. This is the fruit of the tree of life.

Jesus remained where God had placed him, as a female to God. He obeyed God in all things as a wife. So as reward for this perfect obedience, and in harmony with God’s plan, God exalted Jesus up to become a part of the Kingdom of God, Spirit. He gave Jesus power to sit on the throne of God, and become a life-giver. It is now Jesus who in fills us with the Holy Ghost to bear a child to God. But Jesus is still the HEAD over this human kingdom, the tree of life.

Adam’s kingdom, or that tree of the knowledge of good and evil is also a female, although Adam tried to set himself up as God, and his kingdom to become male. But he failed in this. His kingdom or tree, is bearing fruit also, but it is corrupt fruit. His children are brought forth in death. They will die the eternal death of hell fire. His words, or corrupt fruit, or false doctrine, brings forth only dead children.

Pr 9:13 A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing. Pr 9:14 For she sitteth at the door of her house, on a seat in the high places of the city, Pr 9:15 To call passengers who go right on their ways: Pr 9:16 Whoso is simple, let him turn in hither: and as for him that wanteth understanding, she saith to him, Pr 9:17 Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant. Pr 9:18 But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.

Remember that Adam and his kingdom, (Romans one) became fools. So this foolish woman is on a seat in high places. This is the SEAT of Satan in the Churches. She calls to those who pass by. Those who lack understanding turn in to her. But they know not that the DEAD ARE THERE. Her guests are in the depths of hell.

This is the end result of being part of Adam’s kingdom, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It leads to death. Death and hell rode that fourth horse. It was law. It was self-works, self-righteousness, it was hypocrisy, it was false teachings, it was denial of the truth. This tree only bears corrupt fruit. It is the flesh. It is the carnal mind. It is accepting some man’s words other than the Holy Scriptures. All other roads lead to this death and hell. So when someone tells you, that the KJV is mistranslated or corrupted, you need to run, get away from this wolf. He is of this corrupt tree, and his words will land you in hellfire. If you listen to him, or EAT of that tree, then you will follow him to destruction.

Ye shall be as gods. So, did they come forth as gods, or as fools? It is quite evident that they came forth as fools. Every man who sets himself up as a head over God’s people, is of this evil spirit of Adam, trying to be as gods.

AMEN



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From: MSN Nicknamelovejoy742Sent: 4/15/2007 12:01 AM
Freeborn, I enjoyed this message very much.  I have been reading it for a few days.  it is such deep things here.  God surely must speak to you, for you teach things so different from the main stream of church doctrine.
 
I think if they had revelation, why do they all teach the same lies?