In 1854, Pope Pius IX declared her born without original sin. In 1954, papal dogma declared her bodily assumption to heaven. The Pope has receive 4 million-plus signatures by 1997, pushing for an "infallible" pronouncement that Mary shared in the redemption accomplished by Jesus, although the movement has invited "blistering criticism" from other Catholics and non-Catholics.  [the article]

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I have re-read this message this morning, and I encourage all of you to carefully read it.

 

Did you see what the pope did? He (The Pope) declared Mary born Sinless. This is far from the truth. He also said that she acsending into heaven bodily. Why is that statement not in scripture? Where do we read that Mary is now bodily in heaven?

 

Let me go and dig Dake up-he proved the above to be a lie. Be right back.

 

Tweety

This is a interesting study. I never knew that Jesus half-brothers wanted to hinder HIS WORKS.   Please read the statements that are in bold.  Take that Catholic CHURCH. Tweety

 

Mary Had Other Children: Luke 8:19

Mary Had Other Children:

1.     It is plainly stated that Jesus had four brothers (i.e., half brothers), James, Joses, Simon, and Judas. He had at least three half sisters also: "are not his sisters here with us?"  These are referred to as "his own kin."  His mother, brethren, and sisters are used literally (Matthew 13:55-56; Mark 6:3).

 

2.     The Lord is called Mary's "firstborn" (Matthew 1:25; Luke 2:7), and the natural inference is that she had other children.  The Greek: prototokos (NT:4416) is used only in Romans 8:29; Col. 1:15-18; Hebrews 1:6; Hebrews 11:28; Hebrews 12:23; Rev. 1:5 of the first of many others.  Had He been her only son, the word would have been monogenes (NT:3439), which occurs in Luke 7:12; Luke 8:42; Luke 9:38; of human parentage of the "only son," "only daughter" and "only child"; and of the Lord Jesus as "the only begotten of the Father" (John 1:14,18; John 3:16,18; 1 John 4:9).

 

3.     It was predicted by God that Mary would have other children and the Messiah would have brothers:  "I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children" (Psalm 69:8-9).

 

4.     "His mother, and His brethren" are mentioned as following Him to Capernaum and seeking to hinder His work (Matthew 12:46-50; Mark 3:31-35; Luke 8:19-21; John 2:12). The children of some other woman would not be following Mary as "His brethren."

 

5.     "His brethren" are mentioned as not believing on Him until after the resurrection (John 7:3-10; Acts 1:14).

 

6.     James is called "the Lord's brother" (Galatians 1:19). See note, Mark 6:3.

 

7.     The natural meaning of "His brethren" would never have been questioned but for the fact of pagan corruption in the church-in seeking to raise Mary from a mere "handmaid of the Lord" (Luke 1:38) to that of mother of God and to invest her with divine powers as a goddess. Thus the way was prepared for identifying her with the goddess of paganism, who is thought to be the mother of a divine son, and who is yet a virgin-a deity known in Egypt as Isis, the mother of Horus; in India, Isi; in Asia, Cybele; in Rome, Fortuna; in Greece, Ceres; in China, Shing Moo; and in other lands by different names, but always with a son in arms.  So it is said that Mary had no other children and that His brethren were cousins by another Mary and Cleophas, that Joseph was too old to have children by Mary, or that he had children by a former marriage.  All this is false, as nothing is mentioned in Scripture or history about these claims.  If Joseph did have children before Jesus was born, then Jesus could not be the legal heir to David's throne, which by law went to the firstborn.  See note, Matthew 1:6.

 

—Dake's Topics

Again I say, every church adheres to this false teaching.  Every church says   (including your dake)  .. that Jesus existed in heaven, as a god,  BEFORE he came down from heaven and got into Mary's womb.

 

So why fight this thing?  You believe Dake who teaches the incarnation.  He claimed that Jesus was PREINCARNATE.

 

So that makes Mary the mother of God.

 

If Jesus were god, then Mary was the mother of God.

 

why fight it?  Either Jesus was a human man, a prophet, like unto Moses, as God said, or Mary was the mother of God.

 

Now this ungodly 'jesus-only ' doctrine is saying that the body of Jesus is only a dead, lifeless, spiritless hunk of clay for God to come down and get into.

 

so did God get into that lifeless body before Mary gave birth, or after?  If after, then she had to give birth to a dead baby and then God got into that dead, lifeless body and lived, and thus heaven was void of God.

 

And millions of folks fight for this doctrine.  When I join a jesus-only group, as I did last week,  and ask just a few simple question,  I get thrown out.........BECAUSE THEY CANNOT HAVE THE CONFUSION IN THERE.

 

that is the very words of the manager who threw me out last week,  because I spoke against their devil-worship holiday and because I proved that Jesus could not have been god.

 

I told them,  the devil uses these managers exactly as he uses pastors of churches,,,,,,,to make sure their people do not have any chance to hear the real truth.

 

They are satan's servants and obey him they will.

 

The one whose words you teach, is your god.  The one you obey is your lord and you are his servant.

 

so all of you who obey the devil, and keep the holidays, and ban those who tell the truth, are servant to your god, the devil.

 

Those of you who claim that Jesus was God in flesh, are servants of the devil.  You call Mary the mother of God.  yet fight the Catholics who say the very same lie.

 

So now.  if you do not believe that Mary was the mother of God,  accept the truth that Jesus was NOT GOD.