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by ETHEREALphoenix7 I have noticed in my travels that hardliner ultra-conservative churches sometimes are plagued with harsh judgementalism toward others, infighting and discord, strife and petty jealousies.
And then you have the Charismatic churches where the seasoned saints gets along and works together efficiently without the trauma and drama, but they do not have a dress code and allow make-up and jewelry.
I have come to realize that people do what you inspect and not what you expect.
The hardliner, ultra-conservatives main thrust in holiness preaching is the obvious outward appearance and you are mainly sized up by the length of hair and skirt and those type of things.
Whereas in the Charismatic churches, holiness is measured by the treatment of others and expressed love and non-judgementalism is stressed. However most assemblies do maintain Modesty such as no cleavage or thigh showing, but as even in the strict churches visitors and new members do show up that way once in a while.
I suppose my query is which is worse, not following the ever-changing list of "Holiness Standards" or acting like the Love of God is not present in the heart?
Is a woman dressed modestly, albeit in pants, worse in the eyes of God than a woman in a dress that is hard and judgemental and fighting with the other ladies in the church that brought the same potato salad as she did?
Or the brother that goes to work and preaches his standards and not the simple gospel of Jesus, while the Charismatic focuses on his behaviour and presenting the simple Gospel and doing his best to remain at peace with the irreverent sinners in the shop?
This is not a one-size fits all observation, just my experiences. There are exceptions and extremes in every church, good and bad.
Can we learn a couple of things from the charismatic? Sure we can.
Can we learn a few things from the Ultra-Conservative? Sure we can.
Dave
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| Charismatic churches holiness is measured by 1. the treatment of others 2. Expressed love 3. nonjudgementalism I guess a sinful life doesn't have anything to do with holiness anymore. I can kiss your face. Be extreamly kind to you in public and then turn around and talk about you all day long, behind your back, accusing you of judgemental behavoir towards me. I do this by accusing you of being judgemental against me when in reality all you did was share the word of God. I loved you enough to share the gospel. I loved you enough to desire to see you free from the worries of this world and have a joy that passes all understanding. However the word only sees someone who is judgemental. They got offended by the word!!! Do you think you are exempt from this because you are smart enough to know where the lines of offending someone are? Do you think you are going to win them just by loving them? Or will you risk offending them? You must risk offending them to win them. Otherwise they will believe exactly what they all ready believe and never know one thing about the infilling of the holy ghost. P.S. Aren't you judgementally categorizing the so called " hard liners." | |
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| I guess I wrote this message out to fast and see that it can be hard to follow. Sorry, hope you can understand it. | Reply
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I am sorry if my blog came across as being judgemental, I did not intend for it to be.
Judgementalism to me, is not having a different opinion, it is condemning those to hell that do not share the same opinion.
It is calling women who wear make-up "Harlots". Not the opinion that make-up should not be worn.
It is calling women who wear jewelry "Jezebels". Not the opinion that jewelry should not be worn.
It is calling all other churches(and even rival Apostolic churches) not saved or a part of the Body of Christ. Not the freedom to teach doctrine as they see fit.
Questioning others behaviour and beliefs is not being judgemental, it is the normal discourse of not agreeing.
But personal attacks on the individual, namecalling and condemning others to hell when Judgement has not even taken place, is what I deem to be Judgementalism.
Grace,
Dave
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| | | From: Lisa | Sent: 10/2/2007 12:15 PM | | I suppose my query is which is worse, not following the ever-changing list of "Holiness Standards" or acting like the Love of God is not present in the heart? This is a good question. It is one I wonder about also. We have been visiting many churches since Mike started evangelizing.... and the ones that have treated us the best seem to be the ones that lack a lot of "standards".....that some Apostolics stress. Why is this?
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| | | I certainly don't agree with calling names. A woman who comes to church with make up on should not have to go home upset because she was called a harlot. However very few churches of today teach standards. The standards are hardly ever mentioned if at all because of the effort to not offened. So what will become of our churches if we don't ever teach? Who will learn? Even worse who will God call into account because our children were not taught. The church shouldn't have to put up with being accused of being judgemental for preaching the truth. We can't just take out the scriptures we like and ignore the rest. Reguardless of how that word cuts into us.The scripture cuts because God ordained it to. Thats called conviction. God's word should convict us. Old time pentecost takes hits from almost everyone but they are the saints who carried this gospel in the "fullness" of truth into todays world. A preacher teaches on make up or pants or what ever the issue is. He also teaches about the demonic spirit behind these things. He teaches this demonic spirit is called Jezabel. Next thing you know the hearer doesn't hear that it is a spirit called Jezabel they just think they were called a Jezabel. They take it as a personal attack. However that preacher never ever ment to hurt anyone in any way. His sermon was aimed towards a church with members of all spiritual maturity levels. He was trying to feed the whole flock not just one member.This preacher is trying to give a message to everyone even those who follow standards already. You can bet the whole town will hear over and over how that preacher called this offended woman a harlot and years from now that will be the only story repeated but who will defend the church? It is so easy to accuse the church and Christians today. The work place, the schools and any Christian who is involved with their community. You don't even have to be Apostolic to takes hits for loving Jesus.We are easy targets because we don't fight back. Old time pentecost carried the message in it's fullness. I love the holiness standard. It is beautiful to me. Why? Because in Exodus 28:2 God tells his people that his ministers may not enter into his presence with out holy garmets. They are for glory and beauty. If you want to enter into God's holy presence ( not the outer court ) you must have on holy garments. | | |
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Godsbutterfly12,
I understand how some people can misunderstand or miscontrue what was said, but I have heard preachers that were really offensive without a question of what was intended.
But the bigger question is about which standards are the right ones?
Standards are in every church to one degree or another including charismatics. But they all have a different set of Standards.
There are too many places that focus on the outward standards to equate the spirituality of others.
If the focus is on outward Holiness then the inward man is neglected.
That is why in some places where outward outweighs the inward, you have a lot of immature saints that continue to fight and quarrel.
It is good to have standards, but since every church has a different set, who are we to say that everyone else is going to hell because they don't follow our standards? There are many that do just that!
Rather than clothing styles, fads, and fashoins, I think Holiness is better measured by Character, Morality, and Modesty, in that order.
There are lots of Charismatic churches that wear make-up and jewelry in moderation and even though they wear pants, they are not skin tight or showing cleavage or thigh. They are modest. Not in everybody's opinion, but as they have heard from the Holy Spirit.
I wonder if there was a big fuss when Men went from wearing robes to Pants? Who said they could change? Should men go back to the old landmark?
Blessings,
Dave
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| | | Exodus out lines certain objects that are to be in the Lord's tabernacle. Since we are not Jews we do not have to worry about following "the law" and our churches do not have these items. However we do know that these items represent or forshadow things that do apply to us because God does not change. Clothing styles change but God does not. The tabernacle items are not just ordinary tabernacle items, they have a spiritual meaning or a spiritual message. Reguardless of what we think about a certain standard Exodus is clear that a priest who comes into the most holy of holies must be prepared properly. The way they are dressed is part of that. However there is a great deal more to being properly prepared than just looking the part. You are right the heart must be properly prepared also. If you really study out the priest garments you will find that the priest clothing has spiritual repesentations having to do with effectual fervent prayer. Exodus 28: 12- the priest bears two stones on his shoulders.... this is our burdon for our loved ones. We carry that weight every where we go in everything we do. The breast plate the preist wears is the names of his people.... the names of his people...... How do I get my peoples name before God? Who cares what I wear? I would wear anything as long as my God would get close enough to hear my peoples names. We get to do what no other generation has done before. We get to leave the outter court and enter into the most holy of holies if we will prepare ourselves. People have lost sight of this. We are a priviledged people. Our clothing is not a burdon it is a priviledge. Of course today we will not literally die if we try to enter the most holy of holies unprepared , we simply are not granted access. | | Reply
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If that were so, wouldn't it be clearly and succinctly intimated in the New Testament?
If OT rules for clothing is still in effect then is the ordinance for sewing two different types of material still in effect?
Is bacon still forbidden?
It seems to me that either you accept the whole law or
none at all, I believe that we should walk according to the Law of Liberty by walking in the Spirit.
What happened to the dresses that went to the shoetops?
And then move up from the ankles.
And then moved up from the calf.
Now they are just below the knee.
But over the years the standard has changed. Now we have people that look around and condemn those in mini-skirts while wearing dresses that our ancestors would have had a fit over!
I said all of that to make the point that it is not about fads, fashions or styles, it is about Character, Morality, and Modesty.
The old timers at the first part of the 20th Century thought that down to the shoetops was modest while today we consider just below the knee to be modest.
How do we really know that Our set of standards is the right one?
Most so-called standards are subjective to the opinions of men and are not clearly set by the Word of God.
There is no scripture to the prohibition of make-up but it is assumed that no one is supposed to wear it because Jezebel was an evil Woman.
There is no scripture against facial hair but in some circles it is considered a heaven or hell issue. By the way next time you go out to a large secular public gathering, notice that the majority of men have a clean shaven face!
Jewelry is not forbidden but wearing jewelry as a show of one's spirituality is. Gaudiness and superficial shows of extravagance are advised against, but never put forth as a going-to-hell-sin.
And what about all of the unchangeable Holiness standards that are no longer practiced by the church today? Red Dresses, Open-Toed Shoes, etc.
My conclusion is that there is a set core of standards of Modesty in the Spirit and the Holy Ghost Filled believer will be notified if they are dressing too provacatively and will be convicted to change their wardrobe.
Legislating the people of God with an ever-changing list of standards does nothing to curb the carnal desires.
Col 2:20 You died with Christ. Now the forces of the universe don't have any power over you. Why do you live as if you had to obey such rules as,
Col 2:21 "Don't handle this. Don't taste that. Don't touch this."?
Col 2:22 After these things are used, they are no longer good for anything. So why be bothered with the rules that humans have made up?
Col 2:23 Obeying these rules may seem to be the smart thing to do. They appear to make you love God more and to be very humble and to have control over your body. But they don't really have any power over our desires.
It is there in the KJV too!
Blessings,
Dave
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8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1 Tim 2:8-10 (KJV) Let God be true, and every man a liar! The issue is not whether we should dress as our grandparents and their parents dressed; rather, it is that the manner of dress for saints of God is becoming to those who profess godliness. Paul wrote specifically to the women in verse 9; and yet, what is sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander. Ultimately, everyone is going to decide for himself or herself how to dress; and, sadly, too many will choose to conform to worldly standards rather than to godly standards. Legalism, no matter in what form it manifests itself, is about motive. And Jesus taught that everything one does comes from one's heart; and that is what defiles one. The outward manifestation is always indicative of what is in one's heart; and that includes the love of the world. Did not Jesus admonish us to remember Lot's wife? Something in that wicked city had such a hold on her heart, that even while she was in the process of being delivered, she yet lost out! NT scriptures also tell us: 1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
1 Peter 3:1-6 (KJV) While I do not agree with babes in Christ and/or those who come into our assemblies off the street being castigated for the manner in which they are dressed, I am also mindful that these scriptures are not written to the unsaved; neither will they be applicable for the carnal-minded (who are not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be). The babes in Christ need to be taught the first principles of the oracles of God, both by precept and example! Those who indeed love the Lord better than their own flesh will present their bodies a living sacrifice as Paul commanded in Romans 12:1-2. The NT scriptures are real times answers and instructions to real time people concerning real life issues; they are not subject to anyone's private interpretation. So let us all get an understanding, with the wisdom which the Holy Ghost teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. One preacher said several years that God's sheep eat sheep food, i.e. the word of God; but the goats "but" everything God says. His sheep will hear His voice and follow Him, on the issue of appropriate dress for saints, and for everything else which pertains unto life and godliness through the knowledge of Him. Until the Lord Comes! Bishop Waverly Jackson | Reply
| | | The above scripture refers to little except to man made dos and don'ts. This has nothing to do with God's instructions for us. but 1 Peter 2:13- Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake The holiness standard is about holiness all the way, inside and out. No one believes in acting like a devil and looking holy. That's just not truth. The standard is important because the outline to get into gods presence is in the holy word.Those who are hungry for God will recieve it. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: For they shall be filled. Matthew 5:6 -------------------------------------------------------------------- We are God's ministers 1 Peter 2:9- ye are a royal priesthood an holy nation a peculiar people that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. We are to not only act like it but look like it. Exodus 28:2 - thou shalt make holy garments for Aaron......... ( Aaron's the priest) Exodus 28:3 - Aaron's garments consecrate him that he may minister unto me in the priest's office. Clothing does matter to God make no mistake about that. I urge each and every person who reads this and does not truely know to earnestly pray seeking God's will and search the word. Deuteronomy 22:5 - The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God. The scripture never says that a person will speaks in tongues when they get saved or filled with the holy ghost but never the less that is the truth. Those who are hungry for truth will recieve it. The word doesn't cover every situation and every fade.That is impossible. | | |
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| I have also seen these two types of people/churches in my walk with G-d. I do not believe God will accept anyone whose heart is not right, in perfect love. I think the above two differant people do not have that perfect love either. Bringa us to the reality of the day in which we truely do live. Elder Jackson good post! Ethereal, good post too. Makes one think about how we ought to be. jmho broD | Reply
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Here's how I see those scriptures:
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1Ti 2:8 I want men to offer prayers everywhere. They should raise their hands in prayer after putting aside their anger and any quarrels they have with anyone.
1Ti 2:9 I want women to show their beauty by dressing in appropriate clothes that are modest and respectable. Their beauty will be shown by what they do, not by their hair styles or the gold jewelry, pearls, or expensive clothes they wear.
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1Pe 3:1 The same goes for you wives: Be good wives to your husbands, responsive to their needs. There are husbands who, indifferent as they are to any words about God, will be captivated
1Pe 3:2 by your life of holy beauty.
1Pe 3:3 What matters is not your outer appearance--the styling of your hair, the jewelry you wear, the cut of your clothes--
1Pe 3:4 but your inner disposition. Cultivate inner beauty, the gentle, gracious kind that God delights in.
1Pe 3:5 The holy women of old were beautiful before God that way, and were good, loyal wives to their husbands.
1Pe 3:6 Sarah, for instance, taking care of Abraham, would address him as "my dear husband." You'll be true daughters of Sarah if you do the same, unanxious and unintimidated.
Dave
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| So you believe that just because someone believes in the standard that they are judgemental and disrespectful to other church members? becausee I only hear two cateogries of people in your argument. You of course are more enlightened then the hardliners, because you realize they are not only wrong but offensive on top of it. If I'm wrong in this please let me know.You don't believe in offending people yet there is no consideration to people who do believe in the standard and don't run around preaching or shoving it. How is that not offensive? I am not saying people have not at times been told things they shouldn't have but I believe that is a very very great exception. The bible belt which is where I live doesn't hardly ever preach standards any more.This is a dieing teaching. I haven't heard any teaching on the standards in at least 4 years. To put that into practical terms a girl will go from 10 to 14 in those years. Specifically my daughter. I'm not just making this up. If you have children then you will realize how scary that is for parents who do believe in the standards. The world is always in there face to be sexy and wear low cut shirts and high waisted shirts and low waisted skirts or shorts or pants etc...so that everything in the world is hanging out. So where does it stop, because the world has not limits as to what is hanging out. The more that hangs out just makes it more sexy, which is a good thing for the world. 10-14 these are the primary years our children learn to identify what it means to be a woman or a man and they never heard one word from the church as to why they should cover themselves up. So what about our children? | Reply
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Actually everyone has a standard in which they live by.
Throughout the Christian community it varies from extremely liberal to extremely conservative.
The judmentalism involves the condemnation and harsh attitudes toward those in which are in opposition to what we believe.
I don't think that long sleeves and dresses to the floor makes anyone Holy. But neither do I think that a Christian should be showing off thighs and plunging necklines.
I really believe the Holy Spirit will give us the mind of Christ in what is Modest and pleasing to God.
In the future, fewer and fewer women will be wearing only dresses. It is happening now and has been for a while. Is this really the spread of ungodliness or a change in style and culture?
The whole point is that the discarded standards of the past were standards of men that reflected the resistence to change by the Church of that time.
I believe that the Church will retain the true foundational standards that are clearly indicated and fully established by the Word of God!
Blessings,
Dave
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MY1GODJESUS,
There are many Charismatics and even Trinitarians who are baptized in Jesus Name.
Water baptism in and of itself does not save you. Baptism is an act of faith affirming our trust in the only one who can save us.
When everything has ended and we are standing in heaven, you will look around and see all kinds of Trinitarians and Charismatics that you swore up and down that could not possibly make it to heaven.
The standards of Salvation are not in our hands but in God's alone!
We search the scriptures and in them we think we have the corner on being saved, but God alone shall judge.
Salvation is not about what we can do, but about what God has already done on the Cross. Is there anything we can do to make us worthy for Salvation? What ritual can merit us favor with God?
EP
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| "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye (all men) believe not that I am he (ALMIGHTY GOD), ye shall die in your sins." "Hear O Israel: the LORD our GOD is one LORD:" "My I and my Father are one." If the preachers who baptized those charismatics in JESUS' name do not truly believe that JESUS is Almighty GOD, and those charismatics themselves do not believe JESUS is GOD, is their baptism valid? Have they had their sins remmitted? There is ONE WAY TO GOD - ACTS 2:38 "But now being made free from sin, and become servants to GOD, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life." "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not GOD. He that abdeth in the doctrine of Christ, hath both the Father and the Son." JESUS saved us from our sins, not in them. Saints = Sanctified ones (fit for the Master's use). Every time we go to the House of GOD (church), we are entering Set Thrones of Judgement (we are being judged here and now while in church). We (saints) will not be judged at the Great White Throne Judgement (unless we do not have the Blood applied to our souls-do not have the Holy Ghost up to date). Just because we were baptized in JESUS' Name and received the Holy Ghost at one time does not mean we are eternally saved (like the baptists believe). We must make our calling and election sure, working out our salvation with fear and trembling, not crucifying the LORD anew. Any one who receives the Holy Ghost in a charismatic mess (as we did in Toronto - Canada)) will not remain there. The LORD will bring them across the path of a saint to show them the TRUTH (as HE did with us in the Muslim Republic of Turkey). "Behold, the LORD's hand is not shortened that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear;" P.S. My husband was born Muslim, now he's a JESUS' Name baptized, Holy Ghost filled, holiness living, devil-stomping, Oneness Pentecostal with the Holy Ghost up to date. | Reply
| | P.S. My husband was born Muslim, now he's a JESUS' Name baptized, Holy Ghost filled, holiness living, devil-stomping, Oneness Pentecostal with the Holy Ghost up to date. Just had to make that last part bold !!!!! To many people trying to live on yesterdays blessings and saying they got what they need,but remember folks,the manna was only good for one day. | | Reply
| | | Receiving the Holy Ghost through speaking in tongues is the initial sign that tells every person that they have infact received salvation. This is done in a manner that no one can deny because the mouth professes it . This way we may know without a doubt. However this is only the beginning. People can back slide after the Holy Ghost comes. Some people do this and never even know it. The Holy Ghost is to lead and guide us into all truth. The Holy Ghost will bring conviction on a person when they behave in a way that displeases the Lord. It does take time after the initial salvation for new converts to begin to develope convictions. We can't just expect them to change over night. We are not all the same so not all convictions are the same. However a faithful heart and time will bring much change! This is true even for those who don't really have that much sin in their life. It is a glorious experience and everyday just gets better. Change takes a great deal more than just slapping on some skirt. The skirt means nothing if the mouth and the heart are mean and/or hurtful. People do accidentally get hurt. That will happen because no matter what ,we will not become perfect. God made us human but this is no excuse for sin. God designed that Holy Ghost is to clean every part of the person both inside and out. We are to be new creatures in Christ Jesus. Many religions believe the holy spirit comes on slowly over time and they have no signs of salvation. Pretty much all a person has to do to be saved is go to church. Maybe repeat some prayer or something like that. However these churches do not: 1. have convictions 2. experience profound changes after salvation ( in other words spiritually grow) 3. experience the presence of God 4. or receive the Holy Ghost 5. The gifts of the Spirit do not operate in them or in their churches. 6. most of them don't even have a clue what a Holy Ghost is. You will never enter these churches when no one knows you and have someone pray and prophesy over you to something only god knew about. People can prophesy about what they know. This does not take the Holy Ghost, Only someone who wants to encourage you . However, when know one knows you and the prophet hits it right on the head about things they could never know about you. Then you know it was God talking! God was just lifted up. The gifts of the spirit flowing in the congregation tells us that God is in this place. The Holy Ghost is God living in his people and by this same virtue the churches that these people attend. God isn't going to stick around some sour grape. To sum it all up we need both a right heart and modesty. We are to be a complete package, just as the fullness of the Godhead is a complete package. | | |
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| | | They don't hear and don't see because they don't have the holy ghost but we do. The holy ghost will lead and guide us into ALL truth. | | Reply
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1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
1 Cor 13:1-3 (KJV)
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| | | It is written that the Lord once winked at man's ignorance, but now has commanded men everywhere to repent. Surely, the standards of holiness, sanctification, separation from the world, etc., have not changed no matter how the times may have changed! It is up to each of us who is Spirit-filled to be also Spirit-led, and to ask of God when we lack wisdom. I am so glad that it is the Lord who searches the hearts and tries the reins; indeed, He alone knows the thoughts and intents of every heart! And through the preaching and teaching of the principles and precepts of God's word, every honest heart can see itself, and set in order anything that may be lacking concerning one's walk with Christ. Paul wrote: Brethren, I couint not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching froth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ jesus. Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing. (Philippians 3:13-16) If in anything, one is otherwise minded than to to press for the mark of the prize, or to submit oneself willingly to the principles and precepts of the word of God, the Lord is willing and well able to reveal such a condition to each and every honest heart. But foolish and unlearned questions which only serve to gender strife will never edify the body of Christ. The issue again, is, does the conduct of one's life ( including the manner of one's dress), become one who professes to be in a covenant relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ? Is it becoming to holiness? Become means proper to a sacred person or thing. Even American Heritage Dictionary's entry for becoming defines the term as meaning appropriate, suitable, or proper. So the issue is not whether this is our father's standard of holiness; rather, it is God's standard of holiness. If one would know God's standards, let one humble oneself under the might hand of God with a true hunger and thirst for the knowledge of His will. Let one be wiling to simply obey the commandments of God to deny oneself, take up one's cross daily, and follow Him with one's whole heart! For surely, the grace of God which bringeth salvation has appeared unto all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lust, we should live soberly, rightreously, and godly in this present world! (cf. Titus 2:11) Finally, I am reminded that Paul also admonishes the saints to put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and to make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts. (cf. Romans 13:14) Until the Lord Comes! Bishop Waverly Jackson | | |
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