MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
Classic Rock Sidebar II ~ ChatContains "mature" content, but not necessarily adult.[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  WE HAVE MOVED!!!  
  General  
  Pictures  
  Albums  
  
  
  Tools  
 
All Message Boards : No Cake for Little Adolph Hitler
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
 Message 1 of 37 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBàdFluffyDàis  (Original Message)Sent: 12/17/2008 11:31 AM
3-year-old Hitler can't get name on cake

Family upset at store for denying request, and angry Internet postings

 

EASTON, Pa. - The father of 3-year-old Adolf Hitler Campbell, denied a birthday cake with the child's full name on it by one New Jersey supermarket, is asking for a little tolerance. Heath Campbell and his wife, Deborah, are upset not only with the decision made by the Greenwich ShopRite, but with an outpouring of angry Internet postings in response to a local newspaper article over the weekend on their flare-up over frosting.

"I think people need to take their heads out of the cloud they've been in and start focusing on the future and not on the past," Heath Campbell said Tuesday in an interview conducted in Easton, on the other side of the Delaware River from where the family lives in Hunterdon County, N.J.

"There's a new president and he says it's time for a change; well, then it's time for a change," the 35-year-old continued. "They need to accept a name. A name's a name. The kid isn't going to grow up and do what (Hitler) did."

Deborah Campbell, 25, said she phoned in her order last week to the ShopRite. When she told the bakery department she wanted her son's name spelled out, she was told to talk to a supervisor, who denied the request.

Karen Meleta, a spokeswoman for ShopRite, said the Campbells had similar requests denied at the same store the last two years and said Heath Campbell previously had asked for a swastika to be included in the decoration.

"We reserve the right not to print anything on the cake that we deem to be inappropriate," Meleta said. "We considered this inappropriate."

The Campbells ultimately got their cake decorated at a Wal-Mart in Pennsylvania, Deborah Campbell said. About 12 people attended the birthday party on Sunday, including several children who were of mixed race, according to Heath Campbell.

"If we're so racist, then why would I have them come into my home?" he asked.

The Campbells' other two children also have unusual names: JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell turns 2 in a few months and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell will be 1 in April.

Heath Campbell said he named his son after Adolf Hitler because he liked the name and because "no one else in the world would have that name." He sounded surprised by all the controversy the dispute had generated.

Campbell said his ancestors are German and that he has lived his entire life in Hunterdon County. On Tuesday he wore a pair of black boots he said were worn by a German soldier during World War II.

He said he was raised not to avoid people of other races but not to mix with them socially or romantically. But he said he would try to raise his children differently.

"Say he grows up and hangs out with black people. That's fine, I don't really care," he said. "That's his choice."

 


First  Previous  23-37 of 37  Next  Last 
Reply
 Message 23 of 37 in Discussion 
From: artmeatSent: 12/21/2008 4:48 PM
add leg braids on women.

Reply
 Message 24 of 37 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamesass_4221Sent: 12/21/2008 5:37 PM
Well....who are we going to put in charge of deciding what is offensive?
 
The US Supreme Court ususally decides that, Jack.  The federal court systems have banned wearing confederate flag tshirts, etc to schools; they are working on the F-word in the media such as TV and radio.
 
 
To add a statement of stores being selective who they serve, pharmacys also have the right to not sell birth control.

Reply
 Message 25 of 37 in Discussion 
From: charismaSent: 12/21/2008 9:47 PM
"To add a statement of stores being selective who they serve, pharmacys also have the right to not sell birth control. "
 
Obviously, the store policies can't violate any anti-discrimination laws. Since there isn't any law on the books requiring stores to create a birthday cake for any idiot who names his kid Hitler, the store was within it's rights. And yes, you're right, if a pharmacy decides it does not want to carry or dispense birth control, for whatever reason, they have every right to do so.

Reply
 Message 26 of 37 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBàdFluffyDàisSent: 12/21/2008 10:07 PM
You responded in a much kinder way than I would have, Char.  In fact.... lol,I  read Wallie's post early early this morning and it angered me.... but I was too sleepy and sick to fool with responding. 
 
A couple of hours ago, I was thinking about it again while I was lying in my bed and I composed a response in my head which I SWEAR was amazingly damn near IDENTICAL to yours... right down to the "no shoes, no shirts, no Adolph Hitler birthday cakes...."... lol.
 
Ok, I think you made your point well enough so I won't go on about that anymore. 
 
Wallie, it seems to me that you have a couple of favorite targets in here and when you respond to their posts, you do it with a nastiness that just isn't necessary.  First of all, you should reread their posts and figure out exactly what they're saying before you write anything at all because your response to Char was way off the mark based on her post:  and  secondly, could you actually to try to make an effort to respond without being an ass, even if you don't agree?

Reply
 Message 27 of 37 in Discussion 
From: moeSent: 12/21/2008 11:15 PM
Do any of you remember a time in your life, prolly as a child, when you felt a little "Uncomfortable" with your name??? I know I did. I have often wondered why parents name their children what they do. This lady at work named her son "Arai after the motorcycle helmet.....?????

The point I am making is this. It is hard enough as a child to figure out your identity and find your place in this big world of ours. Why confuse someones identity by naming him/her after a particularly heinous character like that? I wonder at what point in this childs life will he learn who Adolf Hitler was or what he is a symbol of??

A cat or a dog....fair game but a child????WTF???

Reply
 Message 28 of 37 in Discussion 
From: artmeatSent: 12/23/2008 12:33 AM
Funny how I been thinking about this and how we deal with it. When I was in second grade I used to draw WW2 air battles on what seemed like 20"x 12 paper but maybe I was just small. I drew the axis vs USA and put the names of Hitler, Mussilini and Tojo on the enemy planes and of course the P-40 I flew had shark teeth and Lt. A.P. Taylor on the side. My mom would not let me take it to school when she saw it. She told me they were names she wasn't allowed to utter when she was a child during the war and no way I was going to bring that even though they were being shot down by the greatest fighter pilot ever. Back then there were hundreds of thousands of veterans still traumatized by the viciousness of war and I knew personally one who was "shell shocked" from war in Europe. Even now some of these guys won't forgive the soldiers they fought. When I see old warriors shake hands and shed tears of forgiveness it makes me weepy too. I think freedom should be respected, taught and tolerated.
If it were me at the cake counter... and the kid was there... I would of put "Happy Birthday Adolf" sure... and the scowled at the parents. Its not the kids fault... happy birthday kid.

Reply
 Message 29 of 37 in Discussion 
From: moeSent: 12/23/2008 2:18 PM
Art.....I too drew those very same pictures. I was facinated by military aircraft and War Birds. This is why I chose Aviation mechanics as my trade. I got my mechanics liscense in 1983 and did not get to use it until 1995. Where I worked at the Fayetteville airport, one day, guess what came in for a rough landing and damaged #1 engines prop and left wing leading edge??? The Memphis Belle!!! The one used in the movie. Not the real Belle but a B-17 G Flying Fortress nonetheless. I got to assist on the repairs and I even got to fly a couple times around the field on her after we made her airworthy again. I got my two oldest sons permission to come out on the ramp and tour her. We sighted down the 30 and 50 caliber machine guns and jumped down through the Bombay doors pretending we were bombs.
 
 If there were enough potential for income working on these old planes, I would do anything I could to make that my job. Glad to hear someone else in here had a similar facination. Do you ever go to airshows where they display these works of art????

Reply
 Message 30 of 37 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameAMadImmortalManSent: 12/23/2008 7:57 PM
Count me in.  I used to draw the fighters from "Flying Tigers" and I'll bet you guys watched "Baa Baa Black Sheep" as fervently as I did.  The nomenclatures have grown fuzzy....Corsairs, P-48's (?) and the enemy Zeros, Messerschmitts, and Stukas.  I think I might still be able to sketch one out, and when I get back to my desk in a few minutes, I'll give it a try, complete with eyes, teeth, and Zero decals for each fighter my imaginary pilot has shot down. 

Reply
 Message 31 of 37 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamewalliehownddoggSent: 12/24/2008 2:57 AM

Places of business are free to have their own policies that customers must adhere to in order to enjoy their services. No shirt, no shoes, no service.. and no "Adolph Hitler" on a birthday cake.

---

Not so --can a place of business decline service because of color---?

Can they decline service on basis of religion--?

Or can they decline service over political affiliation--?

-the argument about no shoes no shirt no service is not the same thing that is a health issue and enforced with laws to make it so--its more than just a store “policy�?-so that point is not relevant (you should have known that (before such health ordinances where passed here we used to walk barefoot in stores all the time.

Im sure any store can put up some sign claiming this so called right not to serve anyone for any reason--but its only worth the paper its printed on--if its not backed up by law-the stores run the risk of law suits and accusations of discrimination.

Can a store refuse service if someone is black?-didn’t we all ready decide this in the 60’s

Could southern towns even stop the clan from marching down front street in answer to the freedom marches of the 60s--answer no they could not -by law they had to extend the same freedoms as any other group (weather they agreed with the philosophy or not--

Id also just like to say --my first post (though it did not conform to this groups more popular opinions (I seldom do))-was not nasty at all--

Only after char directed her next post specifically at me and called it idiotic did I retaliate in kind (of coarse you choose to ignore that (how typical)--and in close I just want to say if it pissed you or anyone off--tuff shit

Have a crappy Christmas and a shitty new year--hoe hoe hoe you bunch of ignorant hoes-lol


Reply
 Message 32 of 37 in Discussion 
From: moeSent: 12/24/2008 12:30 PM
Remember this one??? Republican P-47 thunderbolt. Later models of this baby had the R-2800 radial engine. Click here to check it out. http://www.aviation-history.com/republic/p47.html
 
 

Reply
 Message 33 of 37 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameAMadImmortalManSent: 12/24/2008 4:44 PM
Wallie,
 
Merry Christmas my friend.

Reply
 Message 34 of 37 in Discussion 
From: artmeatSent: 12/24/2008 5:27 PM
Merry Christmas Wallie, and Char, and Carole, and Amad, and Moe and me and VBlanco! and the whole world in general.

A good study of a business refusing service is a steak house two years ago in I think Tennessee, kicked O.J. out and his party of 25 that stayed was going to get crappy service. Wasn't going to serve murderers. O.J. wasn't convicted of murder but had to go.
I love warbirds. I get to check them out all the time, they visit other owners here and my kids back yard is 1/8 off the landing pattern and 1/4 mile before the runnway - Mustangs T-28's are very common. . The airport in town has two B-25's that base here. There is a company that builds replica MIGs and a few restoration companies too. During the airshow season a B-17 visits here but a B-24 and a B-29 comes to Reno. A 30 minute flight is about $600.00 though they didn't come here last summer I bet it was the price of avgas. The Reno Air Races in Sept. is a must if you love warbirds. Not only do they have 50 display aircraft on the tarmac that you can touch the races are amazing. There is nothing like sitting at the top of the grandstands looking back and up 10,000 ft and seeing and hearing 20 WW 2 fighters line abreast start their dive at you buzz over your head and out into the valley of speed for a ten lap race. Way fun.
My favorite type of all, and when I was a kid I had to keep it secret or I would of been little Adolf - Bf109 G-6. The inverted V-12 , the cannon that fires through the cylinder block. I'm a engine freak and the DB-604 is truly art. It still is my favorite and I plan on a vacation this summer to an airshow or visit the base for a flying example Bf109E in Canada. Last year I checked a Zero out in N. Dakota and want to see a Stuka in Wisconsin I so want to go to the fly inn there. I was born in Chino, Calif and they have a air museum and restoration facility that is world class, I got the war bird bug in a 1st grade field trip where I saw a P-40 with the AVG markings.
See what airplanes do! I could type all day!

Reply
 Message 35 of 37 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamesass_4221Sent: 1/14/2009 7:33 PM

Parents lose custody of Nazi-named children

Agency removes 3-year-old named Adolf Hitler, 2 sisters from N.J. home

HOLLAND TOWNSHIP, N.J. - Three New Jersey siblings whose names have Nazi connotations have been placed in the custody of the state, police said Wednesday.

Holland Township Police Sgt. John Harris said workers from the state Division of Youth and Family Services removed 3-year-old Adolf Hitler Campbell and his younger sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, from their home Tuesday.

Harris said family services did not tell police the reason the children were removed. Agency spokeswoman Kate Bernyk said it does not comment on specific cases.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28655143/?GT1=43001


Reply
 Message 36 of 37 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBàdFluffyDàisSent: 1/14/2009 7:35 PM
Why am I not surprised?  What a shame....
 
FIRST order of business should be to change those names.

Reply
 Message 37 of 37 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamePaul-in-TacomaSent: 1/14/2009 8:19 PM
Oh...  now we have the "Name Police" ?   What's next ?  The "Thought Police" ?  (movie: Minority Report)...   or The "Dream Police" ?  (good song)
 
As far as businesses discriminating....   they have every right to do so !
 
"We Have The Right To Refuse Service To Anyone"....   ever see that sign ?  Of course you have !   Just like YOU have the right not to let anyone on YOUR private property, so do they.   It's P R I V A T E  P R O P E R T Y !!!
 
And just another thing that may not have much to do with this topic.....  but it kinda does. 
I don't agree with people that say, "Why won't you let someone search your records"....or...  "Why won't you answer that question" (that has nothing to do with what is pertinent)....   sound familiar ? If a cop asks to look in the trunk, why won't you open it ??  If you've done nothing wrong, then what have you got to hide ?  By denying me access to your trunk you have just given me "probable cause" to force open your trunk ! 
What a bunch of bullshit !!!!!   Does this sound familiar ?  Lemme refresh your memory......
 
 
GESTAPO !!!!!!

First  Previous  23-37 of 37  Next  Last 
Return to All Message Boards